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flounder_smacker
05-17-2009, 01:17 AM
anyone here with any kind of experience with mako boats? looked at some of the bay boats today and thought i was looking at cheap boats but the prices i got said different. i always thought mako was in the low lines of bay boat.

LaAngler
05-17-2009, 01:27 AM
now it is 1:25 AM so take this with a grain of salt but this is a touchy subject with a lot of people, fact is that tracker marine has a bad rep. seacraft went downhill and so the did big mako's i know this for a fact.

the inshore line are basically are the old kenner molds. i noticed some cheap hardware on these boats (deck lids, cleats, latches, wiring, etc.) when i looked at them.

i'm not sure what is fact and what is fiction.

take a look and see for yourself.....

http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-forum/197659-thoughts-input-about-newer-makos.html


http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-forum/42726-seacraft-25-a.html

http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-forum/127926-new-seascrafts-any-good.html


now i'm sure after i post this someone will reply that they have a mako inshore model that performs flawlessly, and I wouldn't doubt it.

Slidellkid
05-17-2009, 05:48 PM
I agree with LAangler on this one. The Mako reputation went down hill when Tracker got the line as have all the other lines that tracker purchased. You may want to contact a guy names CPT NEMO on the other web site because he has had extensive problems out of his Mako and I believe had to sue them under the Lemon laws. There are much better boats out there. For the money, I think the Sea Hunt would be hard to beat. Personally, I'd buy a used boat and avoid all the sales tax. You might want to look at boattraderonline.com or craigslist.com.

cmdrost
05-18-2009, 02:03 PM
Bill Kenner sold the old Kenner line to Tracker Marine. Then decided to discontinue the Kenner brand, so Tracker converted all Kenner hulls to Mako. If you even go inspect the serial numbers, they start KEN......

Solid hull, but Tracker has used cheaper parts for them. TOO pricey also and tough to deal with.

Bill Kenner has since started with his K2 marine. Frontier & Black jack

LittleRob
05-18-2009, 02:33 PM
My Brother in law has a Black Jack the only problem I see with them is my name isn't on the title of one, I had back surgery a few years back and because of that I pick my days carefully or I suffer after just first 4 hrs. into the trip in my boat, we took B.N.L.'s boat and I can stay out on it all day just a good ride.

"W"
05-18-2009, 02:57 PM
I have been doing a lot of research on bay boats the last month. I can tell you the best ones I have found as far as durability for the price are#1 Lake and Bay (if your wallet is BIG) #2 Ranger #3 Black Jack/Frontier #4 Skeeter #5 Triton

MallardFish
05-18-2009, 03:07 PM
Doesn't the frontier boats have a lot of wood. If I'm not mistaken its the same hull as the blackjack, but is not compisite? Correct me if I'm wrong.

flounder_smacker
05-18-2009, 03:56 PM
yeah i have an 94 22ft gravios with a f250 and the boat is a tank. ride is not that great and im just ready to upgrade. would get another one made the way i wanted it but they quit making fishing boats and are goverment contract now. ive been looking probably for the last year or two and i pretty much narrowed it down to skeeter or blazer bay. i just looked at the makos becase i just wanted to compare. i always heard they were cheap boats but still had to go look. i got a price of 42 for a 22 with a 250 opti. kinda laughed because i thought he was joking. im so use of my boat being so solid when i hit the sides of these glass boats it kinda scares me. the only one that dosent vibrate lke a drum is the skeeter. the triton i could play a tune on it. if i had the money for any bay boat right now id have to go with the 24 yellowfin with the f350. might just use the aluminum for another 10 years and save the money.

LaAngler
05-18-2009, 03:56 PM
i'd rather have a 22 pathfinder XL TE or a Shearwater than a triton or skeeter.....

but not for any legit reason's.....


smacker.......have you sea trialed one of these? if i wanted a big water boat i have heard good things about the bay bolts

http://www.hydrasports.com/mPhotos.cfm?mid=5443

Big Flounder
05-18-2009, 04:02 PM
Have you guys ever checked out the Nautic Stars? If you did whats your opinions?

cmdrost
05-18-2009, 04:05 PM
frontier has no wood. Same hull as blackjack, just not finished cap on inside.

"W"
05-18-2009, 04:12 PM
Now I will take a Shearwater any day just dont want to pay that for a boat

huntin fool
05-18-2009, 04:14 PM
2 boats im getting once older- triton bass boat, and a nautic star

SULPHITE
05-18-2009, 04:19 PM
Nautic star are like crocs and sweatpants...everyones got'em!! I like them though...decent boats.

flounder_smacker
05-18-2009, 04:20 PM
pathfinder= blazer bay. can get the same hull for 10 less. LA i never rode in the hydra sport but i hear they are heavy boats but they look nice. i guess they're heavy cause they are built well? i asked the boys on the hull truth about bay boats and they told me gause was the best out there. they are pretty ugly, kinda look like my grandpaws shrimp skif. anyone want to start a donation collection for a 24 yellowfin?

"W"
05-18-2009, 04:20 PM
Wife wants Blackjack I want Lake and Bay....What 2 do???:confused:

SULPHITE
05-18-2009, 04:23 PM
Lake and Bay are nice... saw one on big lake last weekend...

huntin fool
05-18-2009, 04:24 PM
i think we can all agree








that the best boat....






is a free boat!

"W"
05-18-2009, 04:24 PM
Lake and Bay are nice... saw one on big lake last weekend...

I heard Poe just got one

longcast
05-18-2009, 04:25 PM
i just purchased a 1810 nauticstar. so far the only problem i have is with the 90 i only go about 35 mph.the sales person told me it was a 40mph boat.bs.the ride is dry and it cuts through the waves well.does anyone else have any pros and cons for nauticstar.also will a ss prop help out with the top end.i am nervous that when i get a trolling motor and batteries it will be even slower.i paid 23000 with tax title and license.msrp was 28000.

huntin fool
05-18-2009, 04:27 PM
i just purchased a 1810 nauticstar. so far the only problem i have is with the 90 i only go about 35 mph.the sales person told me it was a 40mph boat.bs.the ride is dry and it cuts through the waves well.does anyone else have any pros and cons for nauticstar.also will a ss prop help out with the top end.i am nervous that when i get a trolling motor and batteries it will be even slower.i paid 23000 with tax title and license.msrp was 28000.




my dad's good friend was looking at them i think he was gunna get like a 115 on his.but idk if he is looking at them anymore..he got a new honda jet ski

LaAngler
05-18-2009, 04:29 PM
heavy boat = smooth ride

there are no substitutes for deadrise and hull weight to knock out the chop, except maybe the stepped hull the YF uses.

MallardFish
05-18-2009, 04:46 PM
frontier has no wood. Same hull as blackjack, just not finished cap on inside.

Thanks for correcting me...Now I know.

flounder_smacker
05-18-2009, 05:06 PM
lake and bay 22 back water max hp is 350 the 24 is 500!!! wow. i could see myself in a 24 footer with 2 f250s on the back. what do they do to the transoms to make them that strong? w you looked at them. how thick is transom? i know skeeter uses aluminum braces on theirs.

huntin fool
05-18-2009, 06:05 PM
lake and bay 22 back water max hp is 350 the 24 is 500!!! wow. i could see myself in a 24 footer with 2 f250s on the back. what do they do to the transoms to make them that strong? w you looked at them. how thick is transom? i know skeeter uses aluminum braces on theirs.


2 250's!!! id be like the coast guard!!

killa k
05-18-2009, 07:07 PM
2 250's!!! id be like the coast guard!!

more like you'd achieve orbit.

LaAngler
05-18-2009, 10:38 PM
lake and bay 24 only 2100 lb hull weight, that's light (can't imagine having 1000+ lbs of engine on the back performing right), the ranger is 2800 or so, bay bolt is 3150.

my dream boat would be a lake and bay boca grande

Big Flounder
05-19-2009, 06:38 AM
i just purchased a 1810 nauticstar. so far the only problem i have is with the 90 i only go about 35 mph.the sales person told me it was a 40mph boat.bs.the ride is dry and it cuts through the waves well.does anyone else have any pros and cons for nauticstar.also will a ss prop help out with the top end.i am nervous that when i get a trolling motor and batteries it will be even slower.i paid 23000 with tax title and license.msrp was 28000.
I have a 18' with a 115 and mine tops out at about 41 but I just got my prop repitched and the man that did the work says that I can run 46 with the new pitch. I just got it back yesterday and haven't put it on yet but I will let you know. I love my boat. The only problem I have is the 18'. Now I want a bigger one. Jerry's marine has a 22' with 225 optimax for 30,000. Thats not too bad. Not sure where you got yours from but with TTL mine was right at 21,000.

longcast
05-19-2009, 07:32 AM
i bought mine at texas marine.jerry acted like i was wasting his time.i am going to have my prop changed out after i get my trolling moter.do you know anyone in the lake charles area.

all star rod
05-19-2009, 07:38 AM
Get a 23' Shearwater and put a 250 YAMA! Very nice rig there! Hope you have at least $55K.
What about a SCOUT. Those are some nice looking bay boats too!

Seeing Spots
05-19-2009, 07:47 AM
A buddy of mine just bought a 24ft Lake and Bay...Talk about sweet! Tricked out with power pole, 110 motor guide, Big Screen (color) GPS, Depth finder, 300 Suzuki. It's a little better than my 1994 predator. lol. Another just got his new 24 ft champion it is tricked out also. Funny thing is... the hulls looked identical from underneath but the cap was different. Can't wait to get in the Lake and bay.

MOJO
05-19-2009, 10:39 AM
I have a 07 kenner 1800 vision.
Little boat rides real dry but the quality of the hardware is not that great.
The lids are loose and don't seal good.I hava an evinrude 100 and I do 41 mph. with just me. http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/7959/img6504smwr2.jpg


This is my dream boat.

flounder_smacker
05-19-2009, 10:45 AM
my dream boat.

982

MOJO
05-19-2009, 10:47 AM
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:my dream boat.

982:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
I posted the wrong image!
Seems me an you gonna have to fight over that there dream boat!:grinpimp:

Big Flounder
05-19-2009, 10:47 AM
Man you guys must wake up wet every morning

MOJO
05-19-2009, 10:50 AM
Man you guys must wake up wet every morning
I'd give up a body part for this.
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9162/img6418nw3.jpg

flounder_smacker
05-19-2009, 11:27 AM
mojo on the yellowfin forum a guy posted 74 wot with the f350.

MOJO
05-19-2009, 12:49 PM
mojo on the yellowfin forum a guy posted 74 wot with the f350.http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/795/wha9kk.gif

LaAngler
05-19-2009, 01:47 PM
i like the look of the gause

looks like it will float shallow enough to do inshore but will fish 50 miles offshore no problem.

so i think we established that yellowfin/gause > mako :rotfl:

Hackberry Hustler
05-19-2009, 05:42 PM
I have a 18' with a 115 and mine tops out at about 41 but I just got my prop repitched and the man that did the work says that I can run 46 with the new pitch. I just got it back yesterday and haven't put it on yet but I will let you know. I love my boat. The only problem I have is the 18'. Now I want a bigger one. Jerry's marine has a 22' with 225 optimax for 30,000. Thats not too bad. Not sure where you got yours from but with TTL mine was right at 21,000.


I fish out of a 2110 Nauticstar. My boss had the 2200 and sold it to buy the 2110. The 2200 is a little longer and wider, but the 2110 handles a heavy chop a whole lot better. The 2110 also only needs a 150 to push it 45mph.

flounder_smacker
05-19-2009, 06:33 PM
the only thing i dont like about the gause is not really a front deck. that and the price tag. its a good 20 more than the yellowfin.

pascagoula
05-20-2009, 04:30 PM
I've got a 4 year old Sea Pro bay boat in 19 ft. Sea Pro has gone through some changes, Merc bought them out first, now Triton and Trophy have bought the rights to that particular design. I looked at the Triton version of the 19 ft boat and it's awesome for the money. Triton put their hardware and plumming on the Sea Pro designed boat to make it a sweet little bay boat. I've got a 115 Yam 4 stroke on mine that'll turn 5900 @ 40mph. The 19 ft. Sea Pro/Triton measures 19 ft. 6 inches and has a Carolina Flare that helps make this boat one of the driest on the market. It has alot of foam in it with a nice v in the bow that provides soft entry in rough seas. I'd put it up against any other 19 ft bay boat out there. Check out the new Triton line. For the money, it's one of the best buys out there.