PDA

View Full Version : reduced limits on Black Mallard


duck77777
10-13-2009, 08:56 AM
What is everyones opinion about this subject. I am seeing more this year than I have ever seen at our lease. I think Texas had a big influence on the reduction from 3 birds to now only being able to shoot one. Texas just doesnt have the habiat that Louisiana has from what I am undestanding they are treating the population as a hole now.

longsidelandry
10-13-2009, 08:57 AM
People I know that have leases are like you, they have never seen this many around here.

yak'em-n-stack'em
10-13-2009, 08:59 AM
They were everywere last time I was at little chinere

RaginCagin
10-13-2009, 09:18 AM
I have only killed a few in my life around Avoyelles parish where I hunt. We mostly have teal, gray ducks, mallard and spoon bill. Are they more of a marsh duck?

SULPHITE
10-13-2009, 10:24 AM
I saw quite a few in cameron this past sat.

duck77777
10-13-2009, 10:58 AM
I have only killed a few in my life around Avoyelles parish where I hunt. We mostly have teal, gray ducks, mallard and spoon bill. Are they more of a marsh duck?


they are more of a marsh duck but also frequent rice fields and some flooded swamp

RaginCagin
10-13-2009, 12:48 PM
The times I would see them would be early in the season. I have even seent them in some flooded cat tail fields we had in the middle of the summer. I thought that was kind of strange.

Raymond
10-13-2009, 01:08 PM
There is a difference between Black ducks and Mottle ducks or summer mallards. I do not understand the decreased limits since our mottle ducks are not migratory. If you kill a banded mottle duck in SW Louisiana it was probably banded at Rockafeller Refuge. Smartest duck in the marsh and they get that way by living here all their lives. Got to be more to the story than the Feds are advertising.

Marshrat
10-15-2009, 10:46 AM
Rockafella Refuge was banding over 700 ducks a night about 2 years ago. This was over about a month long period. There are more mottled ducks now than ever. They are not the easiest to decoy in my opinion, but are all over you during teal season. Can't see any reason for them cutting the limit.



Warren

all star rod
10-15-2009, 12:11 PM
I agree the limit should not be reduced. Also, if you reduce it why go from 3 to 1. At least they could of dropped it to 2. On Pintail, I wish they would at least up the limit to 2 birds.

huntin fool
10-15-2009, 03:32 PM
Wood ducks need to stay at 3.
Black ducks need to atleast me 2!!!
Pintail i can't say much on, never killed one

all star rod
10-15-2009, 05:44 PM
Fool.....nothing like shooting a Drake Pintail......

Red Devil
10-15-2009, 05:57 PM
I could be wrong, but I think some of you may be getting confused. There is a difference between mottled ducks and black mallards, and black ducks. When I was younger, we killed a few and I showed them to my uncle and he said that they were black ducks, not black mallards. I asked him how he could tell the difference, and he said a black mallard is alot bigger, and all of his life he has only ever killed two in SW LA. He said alot of people get them confused because of the color similarity. They are alot bigger he said. He also said they are more common in North LA than down south. I think the LDWF needs to elaborate a little more. This could also be a ploy by them to write more tickets. My uncle said it is very hard to tell the difference.` Just my .02.

all star rod
10-15-2009, 06:52 PM
RD.....most call all these ducks the same althought they are not. A Black duck limit is one (1) if I remember. However, I do not think we really kill them around here. Mottled duck which stay here year round is what were are talking about. I call a mottled duck a black duck or black mallard like 90% of the South LA hunters do.

Marshrat
10-26-2009, 03:16 PM
RD.....most call all these ducks the same althought they are not. A Black duck limit is one (1) if I remember. However, I do not think we really kill them around here. Mottled duck which stay here year round is what were are talking about. I call a mottled duck a black duck or black mallard like 90% of the South LA hunters do.

Even most biologist and wildlife agents can't tell the difference. There is very little difference in the two.


Warren

huntin fool
10-26-2009, 03:22 PM
i guess, ima hafta be very careful come season. We have alot of black mallards/summer ducks whatever you want to call them on the river.

all star rod
10-26-2009, 03:43 PM
If you bag 100 of them I bet 99 would be mottle ducks/summer mallards. I really do not know anyone in South LA that killed an actual BLACK MALLARD...

SULPHITE
10-26-2009, 04:05 PM
American Black Duck

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/Anas_rubripes_Yonkers.jpg/800px-Anas_rubripes_Yonkers.jpg

Mottled Duck

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Mottled_Duck_at_Bailey_Tract_Pond.jpg/800px-Mottled_Duck_at_Bailey_Tract_Pond.jpg

huntin fool
10-26-2009, 04:13 PM
So is mottle duck limit the same?

all star rod
10-26-2009, 05:32 PM
I think the limit for Black Ducks is 1.....Again, mottle Duck which is the same as us in LA call black or summer mallards is now 1. It was 3 until this year.

gasdad
10-28-2009, 05:54 AM
Very rare to have a black duck in this area. The majority of ducks that look like black ducks are mottled duck around here.

cajunsorc
10-28-2009, 09:42 AM
Im not real happy about the reduction in the limit! After Katrina & Rita hit and most of our Mottle ducks shifted to Texas. Did Texas reduce their limit of Mottle ducks during this period when they were more vulnerable to hunting pressure over there?......HELL NO! But now that Ike has shifted them back to Louisiana they appealed to Louisiana to reduce the limits here (THEY ASKED TO MAKE MOTTLE DUCKS ILLEGAL TO HARVEST THIS YEAR) in an effort to reduce the harvest while they are concentrated in our state. And what did the law makers do? They cut our limit to 1 because they knew the hunters would be in an uproar if it they were cut out all together. I think it is a pile of crap. I think that the limits should be based on total populations and not population location shifts due to a temporary change in habitat conditions. In my opinion, it would be like reducing our limit on a certain species of ducks here because the nesting population in North Dakota went down but the nesting population in South Dakota went up. Whats the difference?

yak'em-n-stack'em
10-28-2009, 09:45 AM
politics man, not science, its all politics

SULPHITE
10-28-2009, 09:57 AM
Thats interesting...