No More Fishin'

[mikedatiger]

Just curious where CCA is during all this mess. If it was a gun issue NRA would be all over the place...

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/saltwater/news/story?id=4975762

["W"]

Just curious where CCA is during all this mess. If it was a gun issue NRA would be all over the place...

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/saltwater/news/story?id=4975762



:thefinger::thefinger::thefinger::thefinger::thefi nger::thefinger: OBAMA and HIS MOMMA and HIS Monkey LOOKING WIFE!!!!

[Ray]

Think of all the lure makers, boat manufacturers, marinas/boat launches, camp sites, gas stations, tire dealers, fiberglass repair businesses, outboard shops... ect that will fold.
There are hundreds of mom and pop businesses that are barely making it right now due to the economy.

[mikedatiger]

Think of all the lure makers, boat manufacturers, marinas/boat launches, camp sites, gas stations, tire dealers, fiberglass repair businesses, outboard shops... ect that will fold.
There are hundreds of mom and pop businesses that are barely making it right now due to the economy.

That's what I am saying - where is the voice, call to action, etc...Granted NRA is bigger, but come on, I don't even see mention of this in my CCA newsletters or magazines.

I am not one to predict doom and gloom tomorrow or next week, but someone has to look out for us - or we have to do it ourselves!!!

["W"]

http://www.gashing.com/smile/mad/mad0057.gif (http://www.squidoo.com/scuba-diving-guide) Obama

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[LaAngler]

ha, they ban fishing we're taking it to the streets, nothing left to lose

[meaux fishing]

ha, they ban fishing we're taking it to the streets, nothing left to lose
we can start that SC revolt you were talking about a while back:D:bounce:

[Raymond]

:thefinger::thefinger::thefinger::thefinger::thefi nger::thefinger: OBAMA and HIS MOMMA and HIS Monkey LOOKING WIFE!!!!

What ya got against Monkey's???? Now "SILVERBACK'S" are a different story altogether.:shaking:

[cmdrost]

CCA's been quiet on this issue??? Interesting.....Here's a link on CCA's website with 4 or 5 press releases on this very topic.

http://www.joincca.org/media%20room/Federal%20Fishery%20Issues/National%20Ocean%20Policy.htm

[Mediumheavyaction6'6]

CCA's been quiet on this issue??? Interesting.....Here's a link on CCA's website with 4 or 5 press releases on this very topic.

http://www.joincca.org/media%20room/Federal%20Fishery%20Issues/National%20Ocean%20Policy.htm

how dare you do research and find something contrary to popular belief. don't you know it is easier to argue your point when it is the only one you are aware of?

[mikedatiger]

CCA's been quiet on this issue??? Interesting.....Here's a link on CCA's website with 4 or 5 press releases on this very topic.

http://www.joincca.org/media%20room/Federal%20Fishery%20Issues/National%20Ocean%20Policy.htm


Doesn't seem to have done any good - I stand corrected, but you had to dig on their website to find anything. Just saying anytime their is any sort of talk of gun legislation, the NRA is all over the place.

Quote from the ESPN article: That's a disappointment, but not really a surprise for fishing industry insiders who have negotiated for months with officials at the Council on Environmental Quality and bureaucrats on the task force. These angling advocates have come to suspect that public input into the process was a charade from the beginning....

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Consequently, unless anglers speak up and convince their Congressional representatives to stop this bureaucratic freight train, it appears that the task force will issue a final report for "marine spatial planning" by late March, with President Barack Obama then issuing an Executive Order to implement its recommendations — whatever they may be.

If our main source of advocacy can't impact these decisions then we need to do it ourselves. Like I said, may be jumping the gun, but who knows.

[catch.and.fillet]

Frickin' scary....

[Mediumheavyaction6'6]

i don't think you are jumping the gun at all. This is one of the scariest things we as anglers have ever had to deal with. I agree with you 100% Micah the CCA needs to be out there beating every drum they can. This is what they as an organization should be fighting for. I for some reason feel the need to poke the bear.

[Gerald]

We need a Louisiana law........that give us the right to all waters clamed by the state.

Wasn't there a similar law passed a few years ago to protect our rights to hunt?

[Wag]

We need a Louisiana law........that give us the right to all waters clamed by the state.

Wasn't there a similar law passed a few years ago to protect our rights to hunt?

I think you are right on that

[SULPHITE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerald http://www.saltycajun.com/forum/images/purple/viewpost.gif (http://www.saltycajun.com/forum/showthread.php?p=124758#post124758)
We need a Louisiana law........that give us the right to all waters clamed by the state.

Wasn't there a similar law passed a few years ago to protect our rights to hunt?

I think you are right on that
http://www.saltycajun.com/forum/images/misc/progress.gif

would that only apply to a couple of miles offshore?

[cmdrost]

Also....here ya go mike. ESPN already appologizing for that story:

Updated: March 10, 2010, 2:48 PM ET

From the editor



By Steve Bowman
Executive Editor ESPNOutdoors.com
Archive (http://search.espn.go.com/steve-bowman/)


Firestorms get started in a variety of ways, especially on politicized issues.
ESPNOutdoors.com inadvertently contributed to a flare-up Tuesday when we posted the latest piece (http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/saltwater/news/story?id=4975762) in a series of stories on President Barack Obama's newly created Ocean Policy Task Force, a column written by Robert Montgomery, a conservation writer for BASS since 1985. Regrettably, we made several errors in the editing and presentation of this installment. Though our series has included numerous news stories on the topic, this was not one of those -- it was an opinion piece, and should clearly have been labeled as commentary.
And while our series overall has examined several sides of this topic, this particular column was not properly balanced and failed to represent contrary points of view. We have reached out to people on every side of the issue and reported their points of view -- if they chose to respond -- throughout the series, but failed to do so in this specific column.
This series started in October and has included several updates on how the creation of that task force and its actions could impact recreational anglers. ESPNOutdoors.com should have made it clear to all readers that this was part of a larger series, and -- even though this was Montgomery's opinion, and those of the sources quoted in the column -- we should have taken more care to fairly represent opposing arguments.
We do feel it is our duty to cover issues surrounding outdoor sports to the best of our abilities, and given the nature of this task force and the potential impact on all fisherman, this was an appropriate topic to address for our audience. We take seriously the tenets of journalism that require we take an unbiased approach, and when we make mistakes in the presentation of a story or a column, it is our responsibility to admit them.
Any confusion on that part rests entirely on my shoulders as the executive editor of this site.
We have appended the original column to note that it was in fact a commentary, and we will institute more rigorous editing safeguards in order to prevent such issues in the future.

[cmdrost]

[/RIGHT]

would that only apply to a couple of miles offshore?

Yes LA only claims from coast to 3 miles offshore

NMFS claims 3-100 miles out

["W"]

Anyone want to take obama fishing????

[Ray]

Anyone want to take obama fishing????

I'd like to take him duck hunting.

I already took Jordan swimp dipping too many times. I don't allow cane poles in my boat.

[cmdrost]

Rhetoric vs. Reality
The Ocean Policy Task Force
March 10, 2010

They say that the Obama Administration will accept no more public input.
The Task Force did not cut off public comment.
The Task Force’s Interim Framework for Effective Coastal and Marine Spatial Planning was open for
public comment for 60 days, from December 14, 2009 through February 12, 2010.
The public comment period was publicly announced and well known.

They say the Obama Administration has not listened to the views of the recreational fishing
community, and that public input into the process was a charade from the beginning.
The Task Force and CEQ ensured extensive opportunity to hear the views of the recreational fishing
community.
On behalf of the Task Force, CEQ met with more than 20 prominent recreational fishing and boating
groups from around the country, many on several occasions. (See below for a list of these meetings).
CEQ hosted 38 expert roundtables to receive input from key stakeholder communities, including with the
recreational fishing community. The Task Force also heard from recreational interests at six regional
public meetings it held around the country. In addition, the Task Force received and reviewed close to
five thousand written comments, many from the recreational fishing community.

They say that the President has already approved an Executive Order to implement the
recommendations of the Ocean Policy Task Force.
The President has not approved an Executive Order. In fact, he has not even received the final Task
Force recommendations. When he does, it will be up to the President whether, when, and how he will
adopt the final recommendations.

They say the Task Force fails to recognize the importance of recreational fishing and its contribution
to the Nation.
The Task Force sincerely appreciates the conservation activities of recreational users, who have a long
history of actively participating in the stewardship of the ocean, coastal, and Great Lakes resources. The
Task Force strongly believes in the ability of recreational fishermen and women to continue to enjoy these
activities, which are critical to the economic, social, and cultural fabric of our country.

They say that the National Policy and coastal and marine spatial planning will restrict access for
recreational fishers.
Nowhere in the President’s June 12, 2009 memorandum or in the Interim Report of the Ocean Policy
Task Force of September 10, 2009 or in the Interim Framework for Effective Coastal and Marine Spatial
Planning report of December 9, 2009 does it state, suggest or even hint at regulating recreational fishing
or any other activity.
The Task Force draft reports are not map-drawing exercises, do not contain a zoning plan, and do not
establish any restrictions on recreational fishing or public access, nor make any judgments about whether
one ocean activity or use is better than another.
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The Task Force is charged with recommending guidelines to promote collaborative, regionally-based
oceans planning across the U.S. – a goal that should be in line with the interests of all recreational users.
The process of developing coastal and marine spatial plans (CMS Plans) would take several years and
include extensive stakeholder and public participation.

They say the Task Force has a pro-environment bias and neglects economic concerns
The Task Force believes that economic growth and improved stewardship of the marine and Great Lakes
are inextricably linked, and this is reflected in its two draft reports. Ensuring healthier ocean, coasts, and
Great Lakes will benefit all recreational activities and the communities and economies that rely on them.

Meetings with Recreational Fishing and Boating Groups
Stakeholder Roundtables and Attendees

July 1, 2009
American Sportfishing Association, Ball Janik, LLP, Center for Coastal Conservation, Coastal
Conservation Association, Congressional Sportsmen’s Foundation

July 17, 2009
American Boat & Yacht Council, American Canoe Association, American Whitewater, Boat US, Marine
Retailers Association of America, National Association of State Boating Law Administrators, National
Boating Federation, National Marine Manufacturers Association
United Catcher Boats, US Sailing

October 13, 2009
American Sportfishing Association, Ball Janik, LLP, Coastal Conservation Association, Congressional
Sportsmen’s Foundation, Recreational Fishing Association, International Game Fish Association, Dana
Warf Sportfishing, National Association of Charterboat Operators, Highly Migratory Species Advisory
Panel, Great Lakes Boating Federation

Additional meetings with CEQ

October 8, 2009
Center for Coastal Conservation, Coastal Conservation Association, American Sportfishing Association,
National Marine Manufacturers Association, Bass/ESPN, Congressional Sportsmen’s Foundation

February 17, 2010
Center for Coastal Conservation, National Marine Manufacturing Association, American Sportfishing
Association, Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership, Congressional Sportsmen’s Foundation

February 17, 2010 – night
Billfish Foundation, Coastal Conservation Association, American Sportfishing Association, International
Game Fish Association, Blue Water Strategies, Center for Coastal Conservation

[Firesafety3]

That would be a direct assault on the Lousiana State Constitution.....


§27. Freedom to Hunt, Fish and Trap

Section27. The freedom to hunt, fish, and trap wildlife, including all aquatic life, traditionally taken by hunters, trappers and anglers, is a valued natural heritage that shall be forever preserved for the people. Hunting, fishing and trapping shall be managed by law and regulation consistent with Article IX, Section I of the Constitution of Louisiana to protect, conserve and replenish the natural resources of the state. The provisions of this Section shall not alter the burden of proof requirements otherwise established by law for any challenge to a law or regulation pertaining to hunting, fishing or trapping the wildlife of the state, including all aquatic life. Nothing contained herein shall be construed to authorize the use of private property to hunt, fish, or trap without the consent of the owner of the property.

Added by Acts 2004, No. 927, §1, approved Nov. 2, 2004, eff. Dec. 7, 2004.