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FREON 06-05-2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 442668)
Here are Facts...CCA and Lawmakers and a small group of office fisherman came up with this law..
There was Zero facts and biologist and WL&F biologist were ignored and pushed aside

In 6 years it is fact that Big Trout numbers or down.
.every guide who fishes will tell u this also

90% of you on this thread spend 3/4 less time on the water than I do.. So don't tell me my theory is wrong when you don't spend the time or know 1st hand the problem
99% of you talk about crap you don't know..you yap yap yap behind a desk and fish on weekend and think you know something

You don't know

...you don't see it enough to know
...your not around enough to know
I been on this lake from 5years old and I spend more time on the water in one year than 80 % of you do in 10years

So please save the B.S. For someone who you can blow smoke ups azz

W sure spouts a lot of numbers and statistics here. The truth is he can't show one (1) single piece of statistical evidence to back any of it up

PaulMyers 06-05-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by youmyboyblue (Post 442685)
I wish my life was simple enough to have a "fish weight" as my biggest concern.

That is so true! :thumbup:

weedeater 06-05-2012 01:57 PM

It sure does suck having to go to work to provide for my family and then on my days off from work know that I have to spend time with my family.... does anyone feel sorry for me because I sure don't...... guess some prod are just born *****$

Salty 06-05-2012 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 442695)
It sure does suck having to go to work to provide for my family and then on my days off from work know that I have to spend time with my family.... does anyone feel sorry for me because I sure don't...... guess some prod are just born *****$

Especially with a recent first born child. :eek:

all star rod 06-05-2012 02:04 PM

First it was PILGRIMS.... now its Office fishermen.......lol

1fastmerc 06-05-2012 02:07 PM

Im still waiting on if they raised the limit to whatever made him happy how is it gonna solve the problem. Being according to him and Jared said the samething that only a handful of people can catch a limit on bl. This goes along with what Jared said. If he wants to thin out the trout population then, 1 start telling everybody where to fish and stop blacking out the background, 2 take more people fishing with him, 3 stop making fun of people fishing the weirs, 4 go to Calcasieu Point everyday he's off and make sure ever boat has life shrimp with them. If they don't then go buy them a quart or however much they want. This is just a start.


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Lake Chuck Duck 06-05-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FREON (Post 442692)
W sure spouts a lot of numbers and statistics here. The truth is he can't show one (1) single piece of statistical evidence to back any of it up

Here is a statistic, 99% of the people on this site are taller than W! He just mad he wasn't tall enough for the rides at Contraband Days.

As for office fisherman.......GUILTY! I fish on Saturday's and could care less how much I catch. Anymore than 5 fish and thats more than I want to clean/cook lol.

youmyboyblue 06-05-2012 02:15 PM

Not speaking for Big Lake b/c I don't know, but if they were to lower the limit in Lake P to 10 per person, more fish would still be caught and kept this year than in 2006 b/c of the increase in boats. Years ago, you could fish the causeway all day and never get near another boat. Now, it is a circus out there. Since the internet phase began(LAS, salty cajun, Rodnreel etc..) more guys are fishing Lake P. I can only assume the fishing traffic is much heavier now in Big Lake.

"W" 06-05-2012 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 442691)
W, we all want to hear about the oyster situation that Chicken mentioned. "Cents" you ain't denied it....are we to assume it's true? C'mon, "Mr. I've fished Big Lake "cents" I was 4' tall."

Inquirin' minds want to know.

Show me facts about oyster fishing how its hurting....have all day.....we have 15 facts here that we did not need trout limit reduce



Show me fact that we need oyster fishing reduce......show me a quote from WLF or biologist

Salty 06-05-2012 02:17 PM

I argued this BS from the start simply because I knew it was a ploy for W to draw attention to himself. If you do not see that......you are worse off than SpellGeek.


:smokin:

Salty 06-05-2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 442713)
Show me facts about oyster fishing how its hurting....have all day.....we have 15 facts here that we did not need trout limit reduce



Show me fact that we need oyster fishing reduce......show me a quote from WLF or biologist

I don't care about "facts". Are you, or, or you not guilty of what Chicken accused you of concerning the oyster situation? Choose your words carefully because I'm pretty sure he's prepared.

adamsfence 06-05-2012 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mcjaredsandwich (Post 442675)
I'd like to hear this one as well.

sounds to me like you're getting mad at the people on this site who have agreed with you. Since you're the "1%" why don't you spread the wealth around and let some people know where to fish with your infinite 30+ years of knowledge on the lake. That would reduce trout numbers by "office fisherman" catching limits each time they go out. But, you get mad if ANYONE comes within 1000yards of you while you are on the lake.

Rather than changing the limit back to 25 (which you state most people can't catch a 15 fish limit) and that 25 fish will reduce the population to numbers that support big fish, why not lead the pilgrims to the land of opportunity? Higher number of boat with higher number of limits equals more fish taken. Simple math, but then again that takes kindness towards fishermen that don't spend as much time on the lake in 10 years as you do in 1 year. If you're trying to get the average joe or office fisherman in this case on you're side, you shouldn't be attacking them, or giving them ***** because they aren't privlaged to work offshore. At least they're working.

Gaining support by how you treat people sounds more difficult than getting the limits changed.


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"W" 06-05-2012 02:22 PM

Com on Casey and Salty.

.all want to cry about osytering so me some facts that the lake needs to stop oystering

Pull up facts like mathgeek did on trout limits,,,,you show me where a biologist said osytering is hurting the lake I will shut up

weedeater 06-05-2012 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salty (Post 442720)
I don't care about "facts". Are you, or, or you not guilty of what Chicken accused you of concerning the oyster situation? Choose your words carefully because I'm pretty sure he's prepared.

Sickem :smokin:

Salty 06-05-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 442724)
Com on Casey and Salty.

.all want to cry about osytering so me some facts that the lake needs to stop oystering

Pull up facts like mathgeek did on trout limits,,,,you show me where a biologist said osytering is hurting the lake I will shut up

So, we'll just assume Chicken ain't makin' up this crap.

People have to be careful who they line up with to do battle. You have to make sure that the person that has convinced you that he is right will be standing beside you (not behind you) in the end.

W = Obama.

all star rod 06-05-2012 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcjaredsandwich (Post 442675)
I'd like to hear this one as well.

sounds to me like you're getting mad at the people on this site who have agreed with you. Since you're the "1%" why don't you spread the wealth around and let some people know where to fish with your infinite 30+ years of knowledge on the lake. That would reduce trout numbers by "office fisherman" catching limits each time they go out. But, you get mad if ANYONE comes within 1000yards of you while you are on the lake.

Rather than changing the limit back to 25 (which you state most people can't catch a 15 fish limit) and that 25 fish will reduce the population to numbers that support big fish, why not lead the pilgrims to the land of opportunity? Higher number of boat with higher number of limits equals more fish taken. Simple math, but then again that takes kindness towards fishermen that don't spend as much time on the lake in 10 years as you do in 1 year. If you're trying to get the average joe or office fisherman in this case on you're side, you shouldn't be attacking them, or giving them ***** because they aren't privlaged to work offshore. At least they're working.

Gaining support by how you treat people sounds more difficult than getting the limits changed.


Great post but too bad you will not be around long enough to enjoy it.....ClubW is gonna take you out....lol

SULPHITE 06-05-2012 02:33 PM

just posting some past info not poo stirin...limits or oysters whatever just help the lake:

http://www.saltycajun.com/forum/show...ghlight=OYSTER

"W" 06-05-2012 02:36 PM

Just what I thought.....we have plenty of hard facts that proved we never needed a limit reduction

We have Zero facts about oyster dredging destroying the lake..

(but since I spend so much time on the water I can tell you 1st hand that oyster dredging is hurting the lake, but I guess my time on the water is not justified for support of the 25trout limit but could be justified for oyster dredging (hypocritical ) )

My point proving to the T

I'm Winning ......

ckinchen 06-05-2012 02:39 PM

W it seems like you sure were hell bent on taking out the oyster problem, but now you have completed your 180? That office politician that is a family friend sure did put you in your place.

See below, I have plenty more where this came from Mr. Obama/ W.


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We have a problem....if it was not a problem we would not be talking about it.

Out of town oystermen have no respect for our lake just like Texas fisherman who come fish
Texas fisherman will preach Catch and Release on their how waters in TX but come to our Lake and kill em all!

Same with Oyster fisherman from Out of Town

16 permits were given to Houma fisherman! Like they care!

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Oyster fisherman They Mad
LMAO...they have some Oyster fisherman protesting on main street in Jennings about Oyster permit ban...
(I guess here because Dan Morrish office is here)
I stopped to see what the fuss was about and almost got shanked,...

I said I fish Big Lake and yall were killing our reefs...how about let's Tong and all u can have permits?? They did not want to hear that!!!

I asked one question ...I said when the lake was tong only they had 25 boats working! Now they have 300,,,,can u explain? That's when I had to leave!!!

Got sum pics but my angles sucked...tried to seak them with out them seeing me



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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hebert
again..you have people that want to restrict other people's right to fish.....when are they gonna learn they don't own our fisheries? if it comes to a few select chosen few to earn a living in this or the right of any cajun who wants to go out and fish for some oysters..the cajun has every right to do it because it is his heritage to do it. pilgrim or no pilgrim...that's one of the reasons they made vo-tech and 2 year college's ...for people that need to re-educate their selves if they don't like what is going on in their profession.

again...Heritage means hard working people..so tong your oysters and dont dredge our lake to death...When its whipped out...I guess you will be the one who blames the WL&F for closing it for 10 years??



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We are not wanting to take any jobs away.,,, your missing the point...we have no beds left and we do not seed...so the ones who don't care and just want a fast in and out buck should have to work for it.... If the want to come tong come tong..but right now you have 250 boats dredging on 6 reefs... I promise if they ban dredging and go to tong only for anyone who wants to oyster... You will have 25-30 boats working... And BTW I crawfished for 8 years and I know how hard that BS is.....

ckinchen 06-05-2012 02:41 PM

Obama/W you better check with your close family friend the office politician and make sure that he does not support 15 trout limits or you may have to do another 180.

What a joke, I am glad everyone can see this. Like you said "keep it in the public area so everyone can see". Well you got it buddy....


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