Originally Posted by eman (Post 619328)

So this shows that 12th graders abuse pharmaceuticals more than marijuana? 39.4% pills vs 36.4%marijuana.

Originally Posted by hawgsquatch (Post 619327)

Where's the paiute and toad likkin? Toad likkin is big round here. Piloscybin mushrooms? Hows about sprayin RAID onto a plate glass window scraping it off and smoking that. I come into contact with a bunch of interesting recreational drug techniques in my job here. Ever hear of a skittle party. Hows about huffing starter fluid or chainsaw gas. Freebasing Pufferfish sperm? Kids getting hit by cars because they are licking the exaust residue off off highway bumps? Electrical transformer fluid soaked cigarettes? Ketamine cupcakes? Hows about the old prison trick of fermenting one's poo and pee pee in a plastic bag and then huffing the methane gas? I bet some of you Roughnecks out there have made some PRUNO AKA cell wine.

I hate to admit it, but people will always seek enlightenment, entertainment and fun through beter chemistry.

And W,

If you are going to use meme's to make a point, don't pick the guys who became cultural icons and millionaires because they embraced weed. That right there is counterproductive, lol.

I have seen studies where they took a poll of high school kids and one of college kids about drug use, porn, and irresponsible sex. High school kids recorded higher on drug use and sex because they perceive it as cool and lie on the polls. In college, by the junior year irresponsible sex is bad and so is drugs but the porn is more accepted. By the time that they have taken the mandatory human sexuality classes the porn ranks at the top because it is now a socially accepted activity and they have been away from mom and dad for three years. Polls really prove nothing.

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 619315)

Originally Posted by eman (Post 619328)

So this shows that 12th graders abuse pharmaceuticals more than marijuana? 39.4% pills vs 36.4%marijuana.

Originally Posted by eman (Post 619328)

So this shows that 12th graders abuse pharmaceuticals more than marijuana? 39.4% pills vs 36.4%marijuana.

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 619433)

Abuse of pharmaceuticals is a real problem than needs to be addressed. But this analysis in the pills vs. marijuana is flawed.

If you add the "synthetic marijuana" to the "marijuana" you get 47.7% for marijuana, and if you add the percentages correctly for the pills you get 37.4%.

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 619433)

Abuse of pharmaceuticals is a real problem than needs to be addressed. But this analysis in the pills vs. marijuana is flawed.

If you add the "synthetic marijuana" to the "marijuana" you get 47.7% for marijuana, and if you add the percentages correctly for the pills you get 37.4%.

Originally Posted by Clampy (Post 619434)

You do realize that fake weed only exist b/c real stuff is illegal right ?

Originally Posted by AceArcher (Post 619356)

You did however omit some crucial portions of the study. Namely this chart and the fact that both Cigarette use and Alcohol use have been dropping. It's my position that these abuses are decreasing because they are legal, regulated, and thereby kept out of the hands of teens.

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 619437)

You do realize fake weed is illegal also right?

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 619439)

I think the increased regulation of alcohol and tobacco have played an important role in reducing use by teens, both in showing teens that society believes they are dangerous and because their use has been more tightly restricted since the late 1980s.

Recall that the drinking age has been raised from 18 to 21 in most states over this period. This means that almost no high school students may legally buy alcohol, but it also raises the access bar because other parties supplying alcohol to teens need to be 21 to legally purchase. I would be curious to know if the libertarian-minded advocates of marijuana legalization are hoping to put the access age at 18 or 21. Your analogy argument with alcohol ("legalization would reduce teen access") is only valid if you intend to make the age of access 21. Drunk driving laws are also tighter and more strictly enforced, with much stiffer penalties for those under 21 driving under the influence.

Public smoking has also come under much tighter restrictions in the US over the past 20 years, and several states have raised their ages for legal purchase.

Originally Posted by Clampy (Post 619443)

What's your point ?

All they do is change a molecule and BOOM not illegal.
They come out with new ones every week.

Originally Posted by Clampy (Post 619446)

Of course the legal age for cannabis would be 21 years of age no ones advocating recreational use for kids.

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 619459)

Wrong, you better read up on the laws!! It cover any synthetic type drugs.
Dont care how many chemicals you change its still illegal!!