Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 618179)

I just listened to 3 solid hours of talks on freshwater diversions and it was very civil even though there was disagreement on a few things, mainly the cause of the land loss below Caernarvon. There were 2 oceanographers, 2 geologists, and a plant ecologist. Some pointed towards Hurrican Rita, some towards the diversion for the land loss. One of the take home points was that for every acre of dredged canal you lose 4-5 acres of marsh. One of the things that they all agreed upon was that saltwater is the worst thing that can happen to a marsh. There are different types of marshes, and they can all tolerate salinity differently but saltwater for long periods of time will kill it all. The poster child for this is Sabine NWR where Rita brought saltwater and kept it on the landscape for long periods of time. You can see it on Google Earth and any aerial photos that the land was lost and isn't coming back. THIS is what you get when you have saltwater come into a system for long periods of time.

The people that are 'benefitting' from keeping saltwater out of that marsh is everyone in Louisiana;)

Ask Vermilion Parish rice farmers about saltwater intrusion and what it does to crops (i.e. their livelihood)


widgeongrass can handle a little salinity also

Originally Posted by mstulb (Post 618329)

Yes but isn't it ironic these marshes survived for hundreds of years with no "saving weir system". I agree a massive saltwater influx is of course not good for a marsh overall over an extended period of time but in this particular case that giant marsh system is a hatchery for shrimp and it is being cut off by a man made weir system.

No weir system on the east bank of Sabine, and those marshes look healthy to me. Shrimp all over that estuary right now, and you can ask any shrimper calcasieu is dried out. Any correlation maybe/maybe not.

Originally Posted by Evans (Post 618332)

And the people that own land back there don't have to go to the weir to access that marsh so they can be back there having and the fish and shrimp to them self!!!

Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 618334)

When those weirs open, the shrimp will be there for everyone and the fish as well. Saving marsh is MUCH greater than recreational shrimping. You can buy shrimp anywhere in S La and they are a renewable resource, marshland is hard to renew.

This is going to be a big fight in the near future, when fishing interests are fighting against the good of all. There are groups in SE LA that are fighting tooth and nail against proposed diversions to 'save their trout fisheries':eek: All that land behind the weirs will probably be gone one day, may as well keep it around as long as possible, there will always be fish in the lake as someone just said the west side is chock full of shrimp

Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 618311)

Yes, were you there

Originally Posted by drunken clam (Post 618395)

I talked to the guy at hebert s collecting the landing fees ,..and btw he has opened a 5 star dinning experience extroidinaire there ,...soon coming..... pulled pork culinary delights sanwihiches ,..and will be opening an outdoor bar, perhaps another shooting and severe beating in the future...anyway, he said "Feds will mandate opening of the wiers on the 22nd"...and he knows everything, if u dont believe me just ask him...i think all weirs around the lake are closed...I was at hog bayou wier monday and it appeared to be closed and the other one too, further south

Originally Posted by capt coonassty (Post 618372)

Yeah, I cooked the catfish for the social.

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 618363)

I agree, but let me add that it is the short term fishing interests fighting against the long term good of all. Controlling salinity in the marsh is essential to maintaining a high level of fishing opportunity in the long term. There is no scientific debate here. The data is overwhelming and the science showing the disaster for long term fishing is extremely compelling.

Originally Posted by mstulb (Post 618329)

Yes but isn't it ironic these marshes survived for hundreds of years with no "saving weir system". I agree a massive saltwater influx is of course not good for a marsh overall over an extended period of time but in this particular case that giant marsh system is a hatchery for shrimp and it is being cut off by a man made weir system.

No weir system on the east bank of Sabine, and those marshes look healthy to me. Shrimp all over that estuary right now, and you can ask any shrimper calcasieu is dried out. Any correlation maybe/maybe not.

Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 618183)

Those guys that own land behind the weirs probably belong to DU and/or CCA though:eek:








:rotfl:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 618415)

Interrupt mother nature harvest cycle

Install Weirs and control water..... mess us ecosystem and kill everything


Shrimp and fish cant just wait for mother of weirs to allow them to do there thing



Awesome!!! Save Wegiongrass

Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 618413)

All that land is owned by large land companies. Very little owned by private land owners. I know both of the land managers that manage the land in Cameron-Creole.

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Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 618417)

Interrupt mother nature by dredging a ship channel, see what I did there


Wigeongrass isn't going to be affected by a little salinity dubya

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 618419)

No weirs on West side of lake for the marshes?? Closer to ship channel

^^^^^^^^^^


See what I did there

Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 618418)

Are they CCA members:rotfl:


where you been man, there has been some great debates here lately. You can just google something and be an expert on any topic you wish:grinpimp:

Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 618446)

Busy getting work done and getting ready for the big move. I've been reading, but chose to pick my battles. Didn't feel like getting in to something I don't know a whole lot about.

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