| silver_snipe |
02-20-2014 11:13 PM |
I too am a vet that supports the idea that our official language should be English (The official language not saying others can't be spoken). As long as the wording and meaning isn't changed and that the pledge is being spoken in Spanish as a learning tool I have no problem with it. If it is being taught other than a learning tool or paying culture homage I am against it. In the case of French (Creole French if you will) think of the men and women that have fought and died for this country that only spoke that language. Case in point is how Louisiana got to be Fighting Tigers (legend is it comes from the civil war). I don't find speaking our oaths in another language simply to understand it and learn is disrespectful or harms our heritage. I do think doing it for other reasons very well could. Ok I've run my mouth too much and its just my 2 cents. Basically there is no absolute right or wrong answer.
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| duckman1911 |
02-20-2014 11:13 PM |
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Originally Posted by pricecb
(Post 666898)
The reason no official language is to keep the country as free as possible. 200+ years ago we had English, French, German, Dutch, Spanish (who at one time owned our little area known as Louisiana today) and many other settlements across the country.
I think the problem here is we associate this with our illegal immigration problems in this country. Language or an official language isn't the issue and personally I wouldn't support an official language. The last thing we need are more laws. We just need to enforce the ones on the books now and build a wall in the southern part of the country.
But our polititicians have no kahunas and are scared to be called cruel or bigets.
If your son is doing it for what he believes to be an attempt in the school to make a political statement then I say let him do it but I would check his grade in the class first. If he has bad grade then you might want to deal with it a different way.
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He has an A in spanish. He likes the class but isnt willing to sell his priciples for a grade. This is why I suppport him. He's not a slacker. |
| silver_snipe |
02-20-2014 11:21 PM |
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Originally Posted by duckman1911
(Post 666915)
He has an A in spanish. He likes the class but isnt willing to sell his priciples for a grade. This is why I suppport him. He's not a slacker.
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You should praise him for that. While I have no problem for learning purposes. You and he are in a better position to judge what is right in your situation better than anyone else. |
| pricecb |
02-20-2014 11:21 PM |
Then 100% support.
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| Jasonf |
02-20-2014 11:37 PM |
Could another explanation of the situation be that the teacher thinks that the entire class could more easily learn the word associations in Spanish by using something that everyone knows by heart already rather than the teacher pushing a liberal anti white English agenda? I applaud your son for taking a stand bc he felt that it was wrong, but I can recall learning the pledge in French and it didn't degrade my patriotism or love for this country and I didn't think the teachers were trying to make the class into French beret wearing citizens.
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| southLA |
02-21-2014 01:39 AM |
We used to say it and prayers in French in French class. I don't see anything wrong in saying it in Spanish. Many of our ancestors were persecuted for speaking French, even though they were good blooded Americans. Just some food for thought.
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| BuckingFastard |
02-21-2014 07:16 AM |
agree with what he did
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| duckman1911 |
02-21-2014 07:42 AM |
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Originally Posted by southLA
(Post 666944)
We used to say it and prayers in French in French class. I don't see anything wrong in saying it in Spanish. Many of our ancestors were persecuted for speaking French, even though they were good blooded Americans. Just some food for thought.
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This is very true but I have no control over what happened in the past.
I have no problem with him learning spanish. He will likely need it so he can understand what the local landscapers are talking and laughing about when he's in a store. That pisses me off more than anything. I hate being in a store and theres a group of mexicans talking that garbage and laughing amungst themselves. I would love to know w t f is so funny to them. |
| trophytroutman |
02-21-2014 08:55 AM |
I also agree with what he did.
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| BassYakR |
02-21-2014 09:10 AM |
agree 100percent
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| Clampy |
02-21-2014 10:09 AM |
Few things I learned about Nate since we became friends.
Loves kayaks
Above average fisherman
Hates him some Spanish !
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| BassYakR |
02-21-2014 10:43 AM |
haha!
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| mcjaredsandwich |
02-21-2014 10:53 AM |
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huh clampy?
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| BassYakR |
02-21-2014 11:13 AM |
I just dont like Illegals! not too picky
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| fishfighter |
02-21-2014 11:24 AM |
haha
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Originally Posted by duckman1911
(Post 666959)
This is very true but I have no control over what happened in the past.
I have no problem with him learning spanish. He will likely need it so he can understand what the local landscapers are talking and laughing about when he's in a store. That pisses me off more than anything. I hate being in a store and theres a group of mexicans talking that garbage and laughing amungst themselves. I would love to know w t f is so funny to them.
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you lost me right there duck, your son should stand up for what he believes in, but someones language shouldn't be what "pieces" you off, language barrier is the problem not the language, i agree they should learn to speak english also, but how do you know they don't know how to speak english if they are talking amongst each other, it bothers me that there are people that think we should cater to them and we need to learn how to speak their language to make their lives easier, i know if i were to travel to another country i would want to learn their ways and their language simply to make my life easier |
| BassYakR |
02-21-2014 11:26 AM |
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Originally Posted by fishfighter
(Post 667012)
you lost me right there duck, your son should stand up for what he believes in, but someones language shouldn't be what "pieces" you off, language barrier is the problem not the language, i agree they should learn to speak english also, but how do you know they don't know how to speak english if they are talking amongst each other, it bothers me that there are people that think we should cater to them and we need to learn how to speak their language to make their lives easier, i know if i were to travel to another country i would want to learn their ways and their language simply to make my life easier
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This is exactly how i feel! |
| duckman1911 |
02-21-2014 11:29 AM |
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Originally Posted by BassYakR
(Post 667007)
I just dont like Illegals! not too picky
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I take issue with even the legal ones. Most of them anyway. In Alexandria there is a growing population of mexican immigrants. They do not come here and try to be part of American society. They come here and try to evolve their own little mexican society. They set up little stores to cater to themselves. You go in them stores and your azz better be able to speak and read spanish. Aint no bi-lingual stuff in there. They come here and expect us to bend to their ways.
I know this isnt all of them just a large number of them. |
The most important issue - you chose to support your teenagers decision to stand up for his belief. Good parenting is what you've done. As a father trying to raise a child with American values I applaud you.
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| duckman1911 |
02-21-2014 11:55 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by dave
(Post 667016)
The most important issue - you chose to support your teenagers decision to stand up for his belief. Good parenting is what you've done. As a father trying to raise a child with American values I applaud you.
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Thanks dave. It would be different if he was a slacker and I thought he was just trying to dodge the assignment. He does really well in that class (school overall) so I know he is doing this purely on principle. For that he has my full support. |
| Clampy |
02-21-2014 02:25 PM |
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Originally Posted by BassYakR
(Post 667007)
I just dont like Illegals! not too picky
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Just messing with ya ;)
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