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BuckingFastard 04-08-2014 06:21 AM

the erosion ive seen in the 20 something years around the 9 mile area and steam engine is massive. my friend even started rebuilding commissary point since he was loosing so much land. (got in trouble by the corps) but got the job done. dredging is so bad for everything except the millionaires pockets.

we need to start something, specifically for big lake. something like the "save our lake" idea. make a board where votes had to be cast in order to change something! haha yea right.

"W" 04-08-2014 06:25 AM

We need for sure some rocks on steam engine area and old super cut area... losing land fast fast

.... I have some marks from the island by steam engine that were close to land and now they are football field or more from land

This is only in 7 years

Salty 04-08-2014 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BuckingFastard (Post 678713)
the erosion ive seen in the 20 something years around the 9 mile area and steam engine is massive. my friend even started rebuilding commissary point since he was loosing so much land. (got in trouble by the corps) but got the job done. dredging is so bad for everything except the millionaires pockets.

we need to start something, specifically for big lake. something like the "save our lake" idea. make a board where votes had to be cast in order to change something! haha yea right.


Be ready for a battle.

BuckingFastard 04-08-2014 06:29 AM

i wish we could. make a board who share the common interest of the people instead of the industries. andddd of course ALWAYS show scientific proof!

"W" 04-08-2014 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 678715)
Be ready for a battle.

Not really

If the same ones who pushed the 15trout limit would push for more rocks along ship channel we will get it


But but but.... I'm sure they have not been on the water to notice the land loss.
They push rules from the office

With the exception of Will who does fish, but Will has to even see the erosion

swamp snorkler 04-08-2014 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 678710)
Open dredging was almost the ruination of Lake Pontchartrain. Thus, the "Save Our Lake" Foundation.

Except it was dredged for clam shells.

Goooh 04-08-2014 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 678714)
We need for sure some rocks on steam engine area and old super cut area... losing land fast fast

.... I have some marks from the island by steam engine that were close to land and now they are football field or more from land

This is only in 7 years


Still holding fish??????

Tip of the day

cgoods17 04-08-2014 08:17 AM

blame it on will drost

Raymond 04-08-2014 08:31 AM

Rocks are coming, can't tell anyone when but they are coming. From mile 10-14 is the biggest problem depth wise on the lower part of channel and moss lake on northern stretch. Rocks south would actually save millions of $$ in dredge resources, its a no brainier but we are sealing with a govt entity. Have been in several meetings where someone from Washington suggests pumping dredge spoil into lake. I have many stories similar to that one in a few short years of involvement.

"W" 04-08-2014 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 678765)
Rocks are coming, can't tell anyone when but they are coming. From mile 10-14 is the biggest problem depth wise on the lower part of channel and moss lake on northern stretch. Rocks south would actually save millions of $$ in dredge resources, its a no brainier but we are sealing with a govt entity. Have been in several meetings where someone from Washington suggests pumping dredge spoil into lake. I have many stories similar to that one in a few short years of involvement.


all good but how long until this happens?? When Islands are gone or long point is just a straight line

trahrob1 04-08-2014 09:59 AM

I have fished Sabine Lake and the surronding marshes all my life. I' ve been guiding on it for 18 years. Sabine Lake without a doubt has an abundant amount of natural flowing esturies which in return provides an abundance of bait. I 100% agree with everyone about wiers. Weirs equal poor man made controlled water structures only with the intent of improving a rich man's duck marsh. In Fact, on Sabine there is a weir established for that which everyone in the area has seen the results. What is so interesting is that before man controlled the water on this weir, we use to catch all the shrimp and crabs you wanted. Now it is intentionaly closed during the spring and no shrimp or crabs can enter the marsh. Intended to hold fresh water for ducks. Hello if you want widgeon grass in your marsh, you need some salt! Ducks dont eat cattails and lily pads! I feel yall pain. There has been talk about putting weirs on Sabine, if thats the case we will be screwed. If it wouldn' be for Texas supporting Sabine we would be hurting also. Texas stocks redfish and flounder every year. They also will not let one of the biggest oyster reefs on the coast to be dredged. Thank you, Texas. Louisiana you will never have help unless you are a rich man!!!

"W" 04-08-2014 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by trahrob1 (Post 678802)
I have fished Sabine Lake and the surronding marshes all my life. I' ve been guiding on it for 18 years. Sabine Lake without a doubt has an abundant amount of natural flowing esturies which in return provides an abundance of bait. I 100% agree with everyone about wiers. Weirs equal poor man made controlled water structures only with the intent of improving a rich man's duck marsh. In Fact, on Sabine there is a weir established for that which everyone in the area has seen the results. What is so interesting is that before man controlled the water on this weir, we use to catch all the shrimp and crabs you wanted. Now it is intentionaly closed during the spring and no shrimp or crabs can enter the marsh. Intended to hold fresh water for ducks. Hello if you want widgeon grass in your marsh, you need some salt! Ducks dont eat cattails and lily pads! I feel yall pain. There has been talk about putting weirs on Sabine, if thats the case we will be screwed. If it wouldn' be for Texas supporting Sabine we would be hurting also. Texas stocks redfish and flounder every year. They also will not let one of the biggest oyster reefs on the coast to be dredged. Thank you, Texas. Louisiana you will never have help unless you are a rich man!!!

Well said .....Well said

BuckingFastard 04-08-2014 10:20 AM

agreed and its sad

"W" 04-08-2014 10:30 AM

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If I could do it....this would be ideal

Jadams 04-08-2014 10:33 AM

Cca is there and has the means to do it...just who do u have to inspire to get it done??


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"W" 04-08-2014 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jadams (Post 678813)
Cca is there and has the means to do it...just who do u have to inspire to get it done??


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but Hey ...we got a reef with buoys ... that cost almost a million dollars :shaking:

neus 04-08-2014 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by trahrob1 (Post 678802)
Louisiana you will never have help unless you are a rich man!!!


I'm afraid this is becoming true of much of our states hunting and fishing. Lease prices are sky high, and oil companies are buying up hunting land at prices that most people could never afford! And now there are fishing leases! Being an outdoorsman in sportsman's paradise is becoming a rich mans past time.

bjqx 04-08-2014 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jadams (Post 678813)
Cca is there and has the means to do it...just who do u have to inspire to get it done??


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Why wouldn't big industry in Lake Charlse that bring ships up and down ship channel be some what responsible for erosion and want to help?

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Clampy 04-08-2014 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by neus (Post 678817)
I'm afraid this is becoming true of much of our states hunting and fishing. Lease prices are sky high, and oil companies are buying up hunting land at prices that most people could never afford! And now there are fishing leases! Being an outdoorsman in sportsman's paradise is becoming a rich mans past time.


True and it's a damn shame


Spiral Out

Jadams 04-08-2014 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bjqx (Post 678824)
Why wouldn't big industry in Lake Charlse that bring ships up and down ship channel be some what responsible for erosion and want to help?

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I'm sure they would but u need an organization such as cca to lean on em.....they got a limit changed w no scientific data... Surely they can talk big business into doin a tax write off.... Everyone wins cca looks like a hero. Port writes it off... Fisherman preserve their lake


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