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Goooh 05-19-2015 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by redalertlures (Post 755056)



Rapists should be castrated. Sorry , this is just my honest opinion here.




Have you seen what is being called rape and what's getting people convicted?

Better hope this never happens, turns out now days all it takes is some booze and a regretful slut to claim rape and get a man convicted.

BIGV 05-19-2015 05:44 PM

If you take someone elses life and it was not a accident then I think you deserve the death penalty. By accident I truly mean a accident as in they ran out in front your vehicle and couldn't stop or something like that. If you were drunk and it happened then it was no accident because you committed a crime by drinking before driving.
Sad but true.... only harsh punishment will make people think twice about there actions.

Mako19 05-19-2015 06:31 PM

For all of you that are saying the criminal should not be entitled to an appeals process: have you not seen the hundreds of inmates who have been released after serving 20 years in prison because DNA evidence finally proved them innocent?

Also, you can talk big and bad about not losing a wink of sleep over sentencing someone to be put to death but I would be willing to bet that is not the case after you sit in a courtroom for multiple weeks looking at this human in the eye before being given that responsibility.

All of that being said, I do believe in the death penalty. I just pray that my country never asks me to make that kind of a decision.

duckman1911 05-19-2015 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGV (Post 755103)
If you take someone elses life and it was not a accident then I think you deserve the death penalty. By accident I truly mean a accident as in they ran out in front your vehicle and couldn't stop or something like that. If you were drunk and it happened then it was no accident because you committed a crime by drinking before driving.
Sad but true.... only harsh punishment will make people think twice about there actions.

Partly I agree. Does the fact that you were drinking null and void the fact that they pulled out in front of you. Does the fact that you had too many beers on Friday with the guys make you a murderer even if someone else caused the crash?

tim3516 05-19-2015 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 755101)
Have you seen what is being called rape and what's getting people convicted?

Better hope this never happens, turns out now days all it takes is some booze and a regretful slut to claim rape and get a man convicted.


Agreed. It's a case by case thing repeat offenders obviously not gonna change there ways deserve it. PROVEN PEDOPHILES on the other hand.....


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simplepeddler 05-19-2015 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako19 (Post 755109)
For all of you that are saying the criminal should not be entitled to an appeals process: have you not seen the hundreds of inmates who have been released after serving 20 years in prison because DNA evidence finally proved them innocent?

Also, you can talk big and bad about not losing a wink of sleep over sentencing someone to be put to death but I would be willing to bet that is not the case after you sit in a courtroom for multiple weeks looking at this human in the eye before being given that responsibility.

All of that being said, I do believe in the death penalty. I just pray that my country never asks me to make that kind of a decision.


I can assure you, under the right conditions, I could vote to put someone down and go home and eat a bowl of fruitloops

redalertlures 05-19-2015 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 755101)
Have you seen what is being called rape and what's getting people convicted?

Better hope this never happens, turns out now days all it takes is some booze and a regretful slut to claim rape and get a man convicted.

Very true sir...I should have been more specific...

Serial rapists and especially pedophiles warrant swift deaths...

This topic has really made me think about the death penalty... And I do support its use.

tim3516 05-20-2015 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mako19 (Post 755109)
For all of you that are saying the criminal should not be entitled to an appeals process: have you not seen the hundreds of inmates who have been released after serving 20 years in prison because DNA evidence finally proved them innocent?



Also, you can talk big and bad about not losing a wink of sleep over sentencing someone to be put to death but I would be willing to bet that is not the case after you sit in a courtroom for multiple weeks looking at this human in the eye before being given that responsibility.



All of that being said, I do believe in the death penalty. I just pray that my country never asks me to make that kind of a decision.


There is more than one way to look at this and no way is perfect. Yes there have been wrongly accused but it is BECOMING more of a thing of the past.

Would you find Brandon Scott Lavergne worthy of the death penalty?


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DeeCee 05-20-2015 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGV (Post 755103)
If you take someone elses life and it was not a accident then I think you deserve the death penalty. By accident I truly mean a accident as in they ran out in front your vehicle and couldn't stop or something like that. If you were drunk and it happened then it was no accident because you committed a crime by drinking before driving.
Sad but true.... only harsh punishment will make people think twice about there actions.

So, If someone rapes your daughter, and in a fit of rage you beat the suspect to death.....you should be put to death?

If you get in a gun fight with someone, and can't prove self defense. Death to you?

AlexOrtego 05-20-2015 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PotLikinisAhabbit (Post 754999)
Leave it dry.



half and half? regardless, the right decision was made. it's just a shame that it didn't take place the same day

BIGV 05-20-2015 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DeeCee (Post 755163)
So, If someone rapes your daughter, and in a fit of rage you beat the suspect to death.....you should be put to death?

If you get in a gun fight with someone, and can't prove self defense. Death to you?

That means the death penalty has already been served. Did you commit a crime? NO, you protected your life or anothers. Got to love folks that make things complicated simply because its easy to do so.

BIGV 05-20-2015 10:33 AM

What I am trying to say is that if you are the one that commits the crime worthy of death then you should get it. I am not saying that if you kill someone because you needed to do so that you are wrong and should be sentenced to death. Of course this is just my personal opinion and everyone will see it in diffrent ways that make things a little hard to agree upon. I think we can mostly all agree that the death penalty is useful in its right.

Goooh 05-20-2015 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGV (Post 755192)
What I am trying to say is that if you are the one that commits the crime worthy of death then you should get it. I am not saying that if you kill someone because you needed to do so that you are wrong and should be sentenced to death. Of course this is just my personal opinion and everyone will see it in diffrent ways that make things a little hard to agree upon. I think we can mostly all agree that the death penalty is useful in its right.


The key point you leave out is the trial that will take place to figure out if what you did in self defense was actually that, your fate lies in the hands of the jury, the judge, and how good your lawyer is compared to the other side...

If God were on panel and had ultimate say so then it would be cut and dry, innocent people die because of subjective opinions, etc... That sucks and is a blem of humanity

4fish 05-20-2015 11:20 AM

what about John 8:7

Nickt87 05-20-2015 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 4fish (Post 755196)
what about John 8:7

I originally refrained from using bible verses and wanted to leave Christian as the only statement on my choice. I did not want to start a who is right or wrong battle, just wanted to hear some opinions and why.

I see where you are coming from and I see James 2:13, Matthew 7:2, Matthew 6:14-15, and Luke 6:37 as leading references on why I choose not to support the death penalty. Curious to hear the pro-death supporters' legitimate reasoning on why they believe in the death penalty, it is a very intense subject that I'm sure has strong beliefs/reasoning's on both sides.

I would be interested to hear responses with some form of reasoning behind them, whether for it or against it.

Goooh 05-20-2015 01:09 PM

The neat thing about the bible is you can find verses that support killing, and verses that denounce it.

You can pick what fits your argument

4fish 05-20-2015 01:49 PM

I think someone would be pretty hard pressed to find in scripture, any where in the bible, that Jesus supported killing. For non Christians yes there is plenty of scripture to justify killing. You are 100% correct about that.

Goooh 05-20-2015 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 4fish (Post 755209)
I think someone would be pretty hard pressed to find in scripture, any where in the bible, that Jesus supported killing. For non Christians yes there is plenty of scripture to justify killing. You are 100% correct about that.


Not sure what that means, but it looks like a choice has been made to not look to the Old Testament.

AubreyLaHaye458 05-20-2015 02:12 PM

An eye for an eye.


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Nickt87 05-20-2015 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 755204)
The neat thing about the bible is you can find verses that support killing, and verses that denounce it.

You can pick what fits your argument

Absolutley, but as a Christian the cornerstone belief is Jesus Christ the Messiah, Everlasting Life, and Salvation. I will leave the life or death decision to higher power and when the time comes to stand in front of God I won't have the burden of taking action or choice in pre-meditated murder, no matter the situation. God knows I have enough other issues we're going to have to talk about up there.


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