I wouldn't keep anything over 4 except to get mounted, but have no problem with someone keeping whatever they want. Saw a 6.5 last weekend go home to the fillet knife, didn't bother me one bit. There is no shortage of fish, I also prefer the smaller fish. And from being used to fishing in southeast La am used to the 12" fish:grinpimp:

She probably pull a little drag but wear out quick...:smokin:

I don't target Trophy trout...This is not wrong watt they did....yak em if u target trophy trout what is your biggest fish??? How many 20 inch females have all of you caught an kept???? We ain't God I'm not saying I'd keep 100 sow trout but who are any of us fishing cops???? Y'all are being like La sportsman pansys about this...half of you haven't even caught a fish big enough to be a wall hanger and call yourselves trophy trout fisherman.....I just don't see y people gotta hate.....if I was slamming nothing but trout over 20 inches and couldn't pay one smaller to bite I know what I would do....do you all?

late 1990's
 

Picture was taken in the late 1990's ... in the area of Turners Bay... Right or Wrong... Why kill all those big fish ? Dont know :cool:

This was when US Texans would come over and wade Big Lake and people thought we had lost our minds for getting out of a perfectly good boat !! And now look at what the craze is !! Go figure !!

The guy in the picture is a good fisherman and he is well respected all up and down the Gulf Coast .... I have fished next to him many a day on Sabine !!

As for the Corky, yeah it has been around a lot longer than most know ... I fished one for the first time in 1991 and I will not forget the day !! Back when you had to call and ask Paul what he had in stock and drive up to the "shop" his added on garage !!

Freddy

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i dont target trophy trout, i fish red fish on the flats.

my biggest trout is 5 11

i have a freezer with offshore fish, trout and reds in it, i dont over fill my freezer, if i get low on one i go get more.

its not about keeping fish, i love to eat fish, and when i need them i keep them, its about raping a resource for no other reason than because you can

and i guarentee these guys throw out frozen fish that get too old just like some people on here do,

why keep them and throw them out if you could just go and catch them another day

But!! Would you tag a hog is given the opportunity????

hog as in pig? like in the woods?

naw bro...kondaka donk...

a hog like in the picture a few posts back?

no i reserve those for the men that can handle them lol

like pookie?

that reminds me...where has Pox been on all this!! :grinpimp:

yes

like pookie

and pox cant talk about that kinda stuff now

so the older half of the population of trout produces 68 percent of the eggs spawned



Older fish get older for a reason, there is some sort of something in their genes that give them a competitive edge, just like some humans are bigger, some grow muscles quicker, some loose weight faster.

that is 1957 science! This is crap really. Fecundity = amount of offspring produced, the Florida study says the larger the fish the more eggs, whereas the second study says that basically the middle aged fish are producing most the eggs. So in the Fl study, they claim fecundity increases with size (age) whereas the LOUISIANA study (our state = the state where Lake Calcasieu physically embodeis) does NOT increase with size. Egg production went down in THIS ONE STUDY.

Egg production %

Age II females 24%
Age III females 41%
Age IV females 27%

So in conclusion to this study, we can clearly see that the bigger and older trout are producing as many eggs as the Age II females. Think how many more baitfish and shrimp they consume and take away from the middle age class of females. The 3 to 4 lbers are 'our' spawners in THIS study. So, everybody go out and get those big fish outta the lake, they rapin the pogies, they rapin the shrimps, they rapin erybody:work:

they get caught but get released. If you completely take out the Age IV class of fish, then the others will then produce 100% of the eggs. This study is really crap. It was done 50 years ago. Lets see something mo better

Science is accepted til proven wrong

Ok Duck...so how many trout over 27 inches have come in your boat....sounds like you have a phd in SOW TROUT CATCHING.....show pics please...

:shaking: Can't really go by a study in Florida and compare it to Louisiana (apples and oranges). The study in Louisiana even negated that fecundity rose with age (it actually went down by 14% that is pretty substantial) If you went out in Florida and caught those fish that the Texas fisherman caught, then yes you would probably be doing some damage to the breeding stock. Isn't Floridas limit like 5 specks? It is ridiculously low. Louisiana is leaps and bounds a better trout fishery than Florida. Not even comparable.

Has nothing to do with fish CATCHING, I read the same scientific abstract you did, you posted the results:eek: They actually negate what you are trying to 'prove'.

Trout are prolific spawners, we are not hurting our 'breeding stock'. a trout can reach breeding age in one year = they are like rabbits, they ain't gonna die out

i dont think it sounds at all like he has a degree is "sow trout catching" he merely stated that your findings were from a study done in another state and were from over a half century ago...

I think I'm gonna go rape me some fattys in the AM....goin find some big gals fa da grease.....maybe I'll get on a few so I can get a stringer mount done....haha

I know for a FACT that 5 12inch females will spawn off more eggs in one year than 5 30inch female trout!

Smaller trout spawn up to 5 times a year

[SIZE=2]The spotted seatrout, Cynoscion nebulosus, or as we call it in Louisiana, the speckled trout, is one of the most popular saltwater fish in the state. Besides being popular in many south Louisiana restaurants, it is targeted by more recreational fishermen than any other saltwater fish. In the last 10 years, recreational fishermen have harvested an average of 6,578,061 speckled trout from Louisiana waters annually – this is more than 93% of the combined recreational/commercial harvest. The best year for recreational landings was 2000 with a take of 9,615,942 specks and the poorest year was 1990, the year after the great freeze, with 2,679,167 landings.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2] Although the commercial catch had been regulated by minimum sizes and gear restrictions, the recreational fishery was unregulated until 1977, when a combined daily limit of 50 was placed on speckled trout and redfish. In 1984 the possession limit was reduced to the daily limit, and a new saltwater fishing license was required. This was followed by a 12-inch minimum size (14- inch commercial) in 1987 and the recreational limit was reduced to 25 in 1988. Speckled trout management and biology remain an area of high public interest. Some of the most commonly asked questions on the subject are answered below.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2] Why do we have a 12-inch minimum size on speckled trout?
A minimum size of 12 inches allows most fish to spawn at least once before reaching harvestable size. All of the males and more than 75% of the females are sexually mature at 12 inches long. The minimum size also increases the overall yield of the fishery. Each year since the regulation went into effect, the average size of recreationally caught specks has been more than 13 inches. Before the minimum size requirement, the average size of recreationally taken specks was as low as 10 inches.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2] Why don’t we have a larger minimum size, such as 14 inches?
Speckled trout have sex-specific growth and survival rates. Males grow slower and don’t grow as large as females. In Louisiana, males do not reach a size of 14 inches until their third or fourth years. Since few specks live beyond age 5, and more than 70% of the total speckled trout population is age 3 or younger, very few males grow to larger sizes. This would result in a loss of recreational opportunity to harvest the males and could possibly cause a shift of harvest pressure to females.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]How many of the undersized, released speckled trout really survive?
The majority of hook-caught speckled trout survive when released. Louisiana conducted a 18-month study ending in 1995 on the survival of released speckled trout. The survival rate depended on the fishing method. Treble hook artificials had a 97% survival rate, single hook artificials were 91%, treble hook with bait had 83%, and single hook with bait was 74%. The overall average survival rate was 82.5%. Research done in 1984 in Texas showed a survival rate of 73%, and a Georgia study, done in 1990, showed a 63.8% rate.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2] Why don’t we close the season during spawning time?
Speckled trout exhibit a protracted spawning season, lasting from April to September. Females ready to spawn have even been recorded in March and October. Closing the season during spawning would result in a 5 to 7 month closure. Also, from a biological perspective, any removal of a female fish from a population has the same impact. Regardless of whether the fish is caught 8 months or 8 days before it spawns, the result is the removal of the fish and all of her future offspring. Since there is little biological advantage to such a measure and since the closure would take place during the months of best fishing weather and most intense recreational activity, the negatives outweigh the possible benefits.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2] Why can’t I catch more big trout?
Aside from the fact that there are many more small trout than large ones, large speckled trout are very specialized creatures. Large trout are not as widely distributed as small trout. The largest trout are taken in the spring, next largest in winter, then fall and summer, out in the Gulf. Large but lesser sized trout are taken near beaches, lesser still in lakes and bays, and the smallest usually in the marsh. Anglers prefer to fish for specks in summer and the second preference is fall. Fishing is most intense in sheltered inside waters. More big trout are caught in spring because they move into shallow beach and bay habitats at that time for their first spawn of the season. The rest of the summer and early fall, the larger trout tend to stay in cooler Gulf waters and only periodically enter beach and bay habitats for subsequent spawns. Many of the large fish winter offshore, with a few wintering in the interior marshes, where they are very sluggish. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=2] Large trout also have very different food habits than school trout. Small trout eat large amounts of shrimp and other crustaceans. As trout become larger, their diet shifts toward fish, the larger, the better. Studies in Texas and Mississippi show that really big trout strongly prefer to feed on mullets; a large trout will find the largest mullet it can handle and try to swallow it. Often the mullet is half or two-thirds as large as the trout. The key to catching large trout is to fish where they are and use big baits.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2] What is the future of recreational speckled trout fishing?
The future of the fishery depends on two factors: good habitat and good management. If our coastal areas remain unpolluted and coastal erosion is controlled, management will be the key. Very few more speckled trout can be produced from other sources. If the entire commercial speckled trout harvest were divided up equally among Louisiana’s over 400 thousand recreational anglers, each sport fisherman would get less than one fish per person per year. Research has also shown that very few speckled trout appear in shrimp trawl bycatch. This means that gains and losses will be the result of management within the recreational fishery. Management priorities, as set by recreational leadership, will determine whether the fishery is managed for liberal limits and smaller fish or restrictive creel limits and larger fish. [/SIZE]

Here ya GO

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Big fish do bred big fish. 90% of trout will never get over 7lbs no matter how old they are or how much they eat. It's the same with deer. Not every buck will grow into a trophy. Big bucks and big trout have the same thing incommon, the genetics to be big. The longer you keep the trophy genetics in the pool the more trophys you will have be it trout or deer.

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This is not any where close to true!!!! Every trout has the same potential to become a trophy! Not one ounce of evidence has every determine this!

It is the biggest assumption by everyone!

Ya I agree big trout don't mean they will breed bigger trout...if that were the case then y doesn't the smaller male fertilizing the egg have anything to do with it?? How are trout like deer?? Not even mammals....

A 10inch male can fertilize a 12lb trout if the eggs are ready!!!

No such thing about Big Fish bred big fish! A male trout will fertilize everything they can

how tall is your father?

how fat is your father?

and im not trying to be rude...just saying that genetics plays a part in all walks of life...and if you dont believe that than you are a moron

NOT In TROUT..........But if you can find some documentation I will be glad to see it!... I have spoken to several biologist and not one believe that theory! Because there is not one ounce of evidence

So you think all 3 year old trout are the same length and weight? Ofcourse there not. Do you think a 30" 10lb trout that is close in age to a 15" 2lb trout have the exact same genetic makeup? Ofcourse they don't. Did you ever hear of natural selection and evolution? The very idea that all trout are the exact same is so flawed that it does not need to be proven wrong due to the fact it goes against the rules of nature. Nothing produced in nature is the exact same. Nothing produced in nature has the exact same potential. If you are in a group of anything that has to chase food to have something to eat, the fastest one in the group is going to get more to eat and have the potential to be bigger than the rest of the group. Thus when the fastest has offspring there is a high chance this trait will be passed on giving the offspring the potential to be faster and bigger than all the other offspring. This is the way nature works.

mah daddy is a big ole samoan/coonass dude...strange mix...but i did inherit his genes no doubt....but i aint a fish and fish are the topic of discussion here....fish do not directly inherit genes from there parents....or mother...thats why they all look the same for the most part...how many speckled trout have you seen with birth defects inherited from their parent?? in fact studies say that the one thing fish are most likely to inherit from their parent is color believe it or not..

No...I'm not saying all trout are the same! I'm saying just because a trout grows to 10lbs does not mean he spawned from a 7lb trout are bigger! Fish adapt to habitat and estuary they live in! We have all the right things for a healthy trout system, does not mean because big trout are spawning with big trout! You male trout is only gets to 3 to 4lbs full grown (yes they have ones bigger ) I'm talking about over all! You big males are about 18inchs and fertilize the same as a 10inch trout! What makes a big trout big???? Surviving the elements! And having a great habit to live!

Yep!

Salty just because you have no idea about this subject and can not comprehend ..... Go post whore in sports bar

I admit that I'm not a biologist. Fact is....neither are you.

Hahahaha.

Bringing back old times....don't forget salty,W is the jackazz of all trades

Your right!!!! Your not I'm not! but I have had hours of conversations with them(Biologist) ! So I know for a Fact I know 100% know more about this than you!

Salty, that is my pic and you owe me royalties. Screw all this talk, I want $$$

BTW, I saw a post saying how one of the guys in the pic is well respected along the TX coast. I have fished with several "prominent" TX fishermen/fisherwomen and have yet to see one keep a sow trout...

100% of 0 is 0.

The fact that I chose it is payment enough. ;) It is a masterpiece, Micah.

man we need a like button like on facebook....this is good stuff