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PUREBAY2200 03-06-2011 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 232575)
Only because they sponsor him...which means he can break all he wants...don't cost him nothing...I'm talking about a guide service...not someone who is force to use a product due to sponsorship,,,,big difference..... You and me both know if Falcon said ill pay you 10,000 a year and free rods....we. Would throw Falcons like food stamps at the super food in New Orleans
6 years ago .... B4 he was sponsored. I fished with him. And he had all castaway. Y........???? Bc it was the best rod available.
And W..... Please find a " good" guide who ain't Gettin free rods..... Ur search is worthless ..... Bc all the top guides are given rods for free.

specknation 03-06-2011 03:53 PM
Capt. Charlie is forced to use castaway another dumb *** statement the
list is endless, they hold him you better use them castaways.

"W" 03-06-2011 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 232579)
6 years ago .... B4 he was sponsored. I fished with him. And he had all castaway. Y........???? Bc it was the best rod available.
And W..... Please find a " good" guide who ain't Gettin free rods..... Ur search is worthless ..... Bc all the top guides are given rods for free.
All of them on Big Lake...... They get discounts but most do not get free rods....and call Academy any one and ask which rod is brought back broke the most...it use to be All star but now Castaway has taken that over...and yes...I know this for a Fact....

PUREBAY2200 03-06-2011 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 232575)
Only because they sponsor him...which means he can break all he wants...don't cost him nothing...I'm talking about a guide service...not someone who is force to use a product due to sponsorship,,,,big difference..... You and me both know if Falcon said ill pay you 10,000 a year and free rods....we. Would throw Falcons like food stamps at the super food in New Orleans
U support Waterloo like they put food on Ur table, like they cut u a chk and said" please support us when people make fun of our redicilously overpriced rods. Tell them we have the best rod on earth. And they we have great customer service. And that if they buy a Waterloo their chance of catching a 10lb trout increases by 50%, and that everyone will think they make $100,000 + every year and can afford to pee pee money away on our rods."

Salty 03-06-2011 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 232574)
Hammertime...... Brought to you by "truth b told"
Lmao
I like this dude. :smokin:

"W" 03-06-2011 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by specknation (Post 232578)
Who do you think you are just because I do not agree with you I am on something,
you must realize I have forgot more about rods and reels and boats than you will ever
know. You are a big man behind that computer board but a shrimp in real life grow up
and maybe one day na forget about it you are an amusing idiot.
*****...u just made me piss myself...you must really be a rookie...I'm the same here as in person!!!! I promise..... And like I said you don't have any waterloo rods so **** and go back playing with your cows on Pumkin Center road,,,,,

PUREBAY2200 03-06-2011 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 232581)
All of them on Big Lake...... They get discounts but most do not get free rods....and call Academy any one and ask which rod is brought back broke the most...it use to be All star but now Castaway has taken that over...and yes...I know this for a Fact....
Maybe this went over Ur head.... Which ain't hard. But were talking about castaway skeleton. That is not sold n academy.
I know the rod racks are high in academy so u may not have noticed the names on the rods.

And we all u that everything u say is" a fact that u personally know" and that " academy sends u monthly reports of what rods are returned"

specknation 03-06-2011 04:00 PM
They do not sell Castaway Skeletons at Academy they only
sell Castaways lower line stuff. The list is getting bigger

"W" 03-06-2011 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 232582)
U support Waterloo like they put food on Ur table, like they cut u a chk and said" please support us when people make fun of our redicilously overpriced rods. Tell them we have the best rod on earth. And they we have great customer service. And that if they buy a Waterloo their chance of catching a 10lb trout increases by 50%, and that everyone will think they make $100,000 + every year and can afford to pee pee money away on our rods."
Nope...they don't pay me one dime....just fished with lots of rods over the years and Waterloo has out performed them all..... I own 10 of them....just picked a new one up in Houston at the fishing show he made me...... The Hp Slam is a 300 rod but I know for fact that blank is over 200 alone...then add the guides and handle...your not making much on that rod

"W" 03-06-2011 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 232585)
Maybe this went over Ur head.... Which ain't hard. But were talking about castaway skeleton. That is not sold n academy.
I know the rod racks are high in academy so u may not have noticed the names on the rods.

And we all u that everything u say is" a fact that u personally know" and that " academy sends u monthly reports of what rods are returned"
Yes they do......... Looks like two of yall blow Skeletons....

specknation 03-06-2011 04:04 PM
The blank is $200 on hp slam for you not Waterloo, come on man
you have been sniffing to much petro in your oil field

PUREBAY2200 03-06-2011 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 232587)
Nope...they don't pay me one dime....just fished with lots of rods over the years and Waterloo has out performed them all..... I own 10 of them....just picked a new one up in Houston at the fishing show he made me...... The Hp Slam is a 300 rod but I know for fact that blank is over 200 alone...then add the guides and handle...your not making much on that rod
If the rod costs that much to built and they are only making a small profit.... that's a horrible business!!! They will b lucky to b n business 5 years from now.
A business of any sort has to make a profit.
And if u really think that a blank cost 200$ Ur iq is smaller then Ur shoe size.
They may sell u the blank for 200$ but they damn sure ain't paid 200$ when WaterPOO bought it.

"W" 03-06-2011 04:13 PM
Let's have a fish off....waterloo vs Castaway Skeleton...... But them to the test!!!! On redfish...you have to sling all of them in the boat...no grabings...just sling what you catch...if it breaks grab another one,,,, this will show performance

PUREBAY2200 03-06-2011 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 232588)
Yes they do......... Looks like two of yall blow Skeletons....
Ok short stack, go find me a castaway skeleton n an academy and post it on here..... And it has to b for sale , not one u borrowed and brought up there.

Ur gonna need a shovel to get outa the mess of doodie Ur standing in.

specknation 03-06-2011 04:16 PM
Since your knowledge is limited, I will tell you that Waterloo uses Batson blanks
use your great computer skills an check it out. If the blank is 200 plus reel seat, grip,
guides, labor they lose $8 a rod.

PUREBAY2200 03-06-2011 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 232593)
Let's have a fish off....waterloo vs Castaway Skeleton...... But them to the test!!!! On redfish...you have to sling all of them in the boat...no grabings...just sling what you catch...if it breaks grab another one,,,, this will show performance
Deal, I'll bring my skeletons and cumara over there and sling reds all over the hynie. But u gotta unhook all my fish.

PUREBAY2200 03-06-2011 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by specknation (Post 232596)
Since your knowledge is limited, I will tell you that Waterloo uses Batson blanks
use your great computer skills an check it out. If the blank is 200 plus reel seat, grip,
guides, labor they lose $8 a rod.
Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
Wow!!
W where did u find out that the blank is 200$??
waterPOO is running their company into the ground, sounds like u have chosen a winner.
Since Ur so good with finances maybe waterpoo can upgrade u from customer relations and community liaison to CFO.

Salty 03-06-2011 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 232595)
Ok short stack, go find me a castaway skeleton n an academy and post it on here..... And it has to b for sale , not one u borrowed and brought up there.

Ur gonna need a shovel to get outa the mess of doodie Ur standing in.
I'd like him to post a pic of his "10" Waterloos. :smokin: :shaking:

"W" 03-06-2011 04:26 PM
LMAO.... Specknation,,, you don't have or never used a waterloo...and it only took me 2 post from you to figure that out.... Chris I didn't say they sold Skeletons at Academy they sell castaway...which makes Skeleton...same owner.... So your telling me there Academy junk rods don't reflect on the Skeleton as a whole???? Like I said... Castaway rods are the most returned broken rod to Academy...just call anyone of them and ask.... I talked to the manager over in Lake Charles just BS about some Sand eels I wanted.... And got on the rod subject.... He said they have had more problems with Castaway over the last few years..... And they over took the All Star rod which was the worst

"W" 03-06-2011 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 232597)
Deal, I'll bring my skeletons and cumara over there and sling reds all over the hynie. But u gotta unhook all my fish.
Leave all that other trash behind...just bring Skeleton.... If you just have one...your going to be in a bind...and please tell me your not basis all this about a great rod and you only have one of them???? Please dont

PUREBAY2200 03-06-2011 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 232599)
I'd like him to post a pic of his "10" Waterloos. :smokin: :shaking:
I'll second that motion....
And I actually believe he's up to 11..... *** do u need 11 rods for????
waterPOO must have a customer of the year award up for grabs!!

"W" 03-06-2011 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 232602)
I'll second that motion....
And I actually believe he's up to 11..... *** do u need 11 rods for????
waterPOO must have a customer of the year award up for grabs!!
Actually I have 9 in all right now...

6 Hp lights
1 Hp Slam
1 Hp light (Coras)

Just sold John S a brand new Hp light and a old Hp light
And just picked up a new 66 HP split grip from the show in Houston Friday

PUREBAY2200 03-06-2011 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 232601)
Leave all that other trash behind...just bring Skeleton.... If you just have one...your going to be in a bind...and please tell me your not basis all this about a great rod and you only have one of them???? Please dont
Unlike u I don't collect rods , I got 5 skeletons.
And I will bring 2.
One to catch fish and one to whip Ur zzz with everytime u bend over to unhook my fish!!

"W" 03-06-2011 04:37 PM
O yea Chris.... Answer my question.... Are you basing all this praise on a Skeleton and you only have one????

Now I can agrue with salty about a Falcon rod all day but I know he has 5 of the same one he is arguing about.....

BLUE 03-06-2011 04:38 PM
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look....... kids all yall need is the new ugly stix !
hands down winner of this red fish flipping in the boat contest !

PUREBAY2200 03-06-2011 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 232600)
LMAO.... Specknation,,, you don't have or never used a waterloo...and it only took me 2 post from you to figure that out.... Chris I didn't say they sold Skeletons at Academy they sell castaway...which makes Skeleton...same owner.... So your telling me there Academy junk rods don't reflect on the Skeleton as a whole???? Like I said... Castaway rods are the most returned broken rod to Academy...just call anyone of them and ask.... I talked to the manager over in Lake Charles just BS about some Sand eels I wanted.... And got on the rod subject.... He said they have had more problems with Castaway over the last few years..... And they over took the All Star rod which was the worst

Skeleton blank is completely diff blank, guide, reel seat & grip.
Any more questions???

specknation 03-06-2011 04:40 PM
Simple minded people say stupid **** his list is so big and growing to say I never had a Waterloo rods is stupid I am not proud of it just not worth the big price tag. As far as playing with my cows I think I will go check my 300 acres and make sure my 700 head of cows are ok from idiots like you.

"W" 03-06-2011 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 232604)
Unlike u I don't collect rods , I got 5 skeletons.
And I will bring 2.
One to catch fish and one to whip Ur zzz with everytime u bend over to unhook my fish!!
If you bring two that's all you have.... Bring all .... By days end you will need them...were going to the weirs with Gulf and no net!!!!!! Have to sling em in the boat..... 1st 6lb plus red...I got 50 that skeleton snaps in half....I seen two on nates snap on 4lb trout trying to sling em in the boat

PUREBAY2200 03-06-2011 04:45 PM
So if I carry 10$ in my wallet is that all I have.... Ur a tard. For real man. Y does everything revolve around possession and consumption for u.
I ain't got a damn thing to prove to u. If the o ly thing I did was fish and screw with people from behind the puter I guess I would own 3k n rods so that I had some sence of importance. And so that I can seem like a big shot. Ur about to step into an area u are unfamiliar with. So watch Ur step and bring some supplies..... This may get ugly.

bayouchub 03-06-2011 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 232593)
Let's have a fish off....waterloo vs Castaway Skeleton...... But them to the test!!!! On redfish...you have to sling all of them in the boat...no grabings...just sling what you catch...if it breaks grab another one,,,, this will show performance
y would you ever want to sling redfish in the boat with any high end rod? that in no way shows rod performance. it will show rod durability however. I have a few waterloo rods and i like them very much but the are not my favorite. They are built on batson blanks in the 40 to 60 dollar price range although they would probably never tell you or anyone else that. I found out the hard way with comparisions on a rod wrack if you know what that is.

because the blank is 40 to 60 dollars in no way means that it is a cheap rod. the manufacturer has to make money somewhere the complete rod price is high because of their good warranty which in most cases is 50 dollar replacement or if found to be a faulty blank free.

"W" 03-06-2011 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 232610)
So if I carry 10$ in my wallet is that all I have.... Ur a tard. For real man. Y does everything revolve around possession and consumption for u.
I ain't got a damn thing to prove to u. If the o ly thing I did was fish and screw with people from behind the puter I guess I would own 3k n rods so that I had some sence of importance. And so that I can seem like a big shot. Ur about to step into an area u are unfamiliar with. So watch Ur step and bring some supplies..... This may get ugly.
Just bring them skeletons.....we can bury them by the weirs!!!! When you coming???? And I'm not saying you have to have 100 rods...I'm saying don't raise a rod up and praise it if you only own one or two of them......

"W" 03-06-2011 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by bayouchub (Post 232611)
y would you ever want to sling redfish in the boat with any high end rod? that in no way shows rod performance. it will show rod durability however. I have a few waterloo rods and i like them very much but the are not my favorite. They are built on batson blanks in the 40 to 60 dollar price range although they would probably never tell you or anyone else that. I found out the hard way with comparisions on a rod wrack if you know what that is.

because the blank is 40 to 60
dollars in no way means that it is a cheap rod. the manufacturer has to make money somewhere the complete rod price is high because of their good warranty which in most cases is 50 dollar replacement or if found to be a faulty blank free.
They make several types.of rods and the new Hp Slam is a new blank that just came out the last few months....and I promise you they are not using a 60 blank on a HP slam Mag.... The Hp Lights Blank coast about 60 or so..... But the Mag Blanks are closer to 200 than 100

PUREBAY2200 03-06-2011 04:57 PM
I got enough to rotate and fish with the lures I like.
I'll b on Toledo bend the 23-27 . Don't think I can get over till after that.

bayouchub 03-06-2011 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by specknation (Post 232556)
I guess you have to buy a $40000 Plus rolled edge see single wall
splater coated cheap hardware boat to appreciate Water poo rods sorry
I can not see it
what kind of boat do you mean?

PUREBAY2200 03-06-2011 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bayouchub (Post 232615)
what kind of boat do you mean?
I'm guessing he speakin bout haynie???
That's the only RG boat I know that is 40k+

"W" 03-06-2011 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bayouchub (Post 232615)
what kind of boat do you mean?
I was kind of wondering the same thing??? Must be a new boat of sum kind

bayouchub 03-06-2011 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 232613)
They make several types.of rods and the new Hp Slam is a new blank that just came out the last few months....and I promise you they are not using a 60 blank on a HP slam Mag.... The Hp Lights Blank coast about 60 or so..... But the Mag Blanks are closer to 200 than 100
so what is their retail price for this "new" hp slam mag?

the new blanks with the 3m resin from north fork composites are only 120 and they are the highest line blanks out right now they are used on the kistler zbone.
for waterloo to sell a rod built on a 200 dollar blank the price would have to be upwards of 400 dollars. if any less and they warranty it once they lose money think about it.

bayouchub 03-06-2011 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 232617)
I'm guessing he speakin bout haynie???
That's the only RG boat I know that is 40k+
a haynie is 40000???

"W" 03-06-2011 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bayouchub (Post 232620)
so what is their retail price for this "new" hp slam mag?

the new blanks with the 3m resin from north fork composites are only 120 and they are the highest line blanks out right now they are used on the kistler zbone.
for waterloo to sell a rod built on a 200 dollar blank the price would have to be upwards of 400 dollars. if any less and they warranty it once they lose money think about it.
Dude the st. Coix blanks are over 100 ..... There are several blanks that are over 100 bucks and there. Is one made by One of the custom rod makers in Texas that just the Blank was over 300 the rod cost 650 to 750... Can remember the name off hand but they were at the boat show

PUREBAY2200 03-06-2011 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bayouchub (Post 232621)
a haynie is 40000???
W's was around that. The 24 ft is higher. But they get $$$$$$ with all the extras.

PUREBAY2200 03-06-2011 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 232622)
Dude the st. Coix blanks are over 100 ..... There are several blanks that are over 100 bucks and there. Is one made by One of the custom rod makers in Texas that just the Blank was over 300 the rod cost 650 to 750... Can remember the name off hand but they were at the boat show
Now that guy is making a profit!!! Lmao

"W" 03-06-2011 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bayouchub (Post 232621)
a haynie is 40000???
With TTL... Upper 30,s... For the 22ft...then the 34tfs are 40"s....

But I know he is not talking about a Hayine boat... Because it is compared to some of the best made boats in the south... Comes with a Lifetime warranty hull and 100% cover against wood rotten...... plus one of the thickest fiberglass hulls for the weight.... And there has been BlackJack owners trade in there b oat for a Haynie...which that shows a lot...because a Blake Jack is a damn good boat!!!! 6 so far that I know of have traded BJ in on a Haynie..... I'm sure there is more,,,,

bayouchub 03-06-2011 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 232622)
Dude the st. Coix blanks are over 100 ..... There are several blanks that are over 100 bucks and there. Is one made by One of the custom rod makers in Texas that just the Blank was over 300 the rod cost 650 to 750... Can remember the name off hand but they were at the boat show

thats not the point i am saying that waterloo is not building on 200 dollar blanks.

u just said a company built on a 300 dollar blank and the finished rod price was 650 to 750 so the waterloo on the 200 dollar blank would be 450 to 550?? depending on componets used

"W" 03-06-2011 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bayouchub (Post 232627)
thats not the point i am saying that waterloo is not building on 200 dollar blanks.

u just said a company built on a 300 dollar blank and the finished rod price was 650 to 750 so the waterloo on the 200 dollar blank would be 450 to 550?? depending on componets used

Have you looked at all there rod prices??? They have some almost 400

bayouchub 03-06-2011 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 232626)
With TTL... Upper 30,s... For the 22ft...then the 34tfs are 40"s....

But I know he is not talking about a Hayine boat... Because it is compared to some of the best made boats in the south... Comes with a Lifetime warranty hull and 100% cover against wood rotten...... plus one of the thickest fiberglass hulls for the weight.... And there has been BlackJack owners trade in there b oat for a Haynie...which that shows a lot...because a Blake Jack is a damn good boat!!!! 6 so far that I know of have traded BJ in on a Haynie..... I'm sure there is more,,,,
thats a hefty price tag for splatter coat and plastic cleats?

Salty 03-06-2011 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 232605)
O yea Chris.... Answer my question.... Are you basing all this praise on a Skeleton and you only have one????

Now I can agrue with salty about a Falcon rod all day but I know he has 5 of the same one he is arguing about.....
Man, I got more Falcons than you got sand eels. :cool:

"W" 03-06-2011 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bayouchub (Post 232630)
thats a hefty price tag for splatter coat and plastic cleats?
You build the boat the way you want it..... Its custom.... It come with trim tabs and Jack Plate standard....I built mine with an 8ft front deck that no other boat has.... I'm sure you can strip it down cheaper but I have a boat the way I wanted it ....you can do that for the price of a Hanyie boat

LPfishnTIM 03-06-2011 07:31 PM
I'm not a castaway or ASR fan, I wouldn't spend the money on a waterloo, I gotta say I agree with salty if its an academy rod can't go wrong with a falcon!

Salty 03-06-2011 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 232609)
If you bring two that's all you have.... Bring all .... By days end you will need them...were going to the weirs with Gulf and no net!!!!!! Have to sling em in the boat..... 1st 6lb plus red...I got 50 that skeleton snaps in half....I seen two on nates snap on 4lb trout trying to sling em in the boat
W, when Nate, Bruce and I went fishing in Lake Pontchartrain, Dumas was swingin' 27" reds in the boat with that Skeleton. Nate broke his rod by grabbing the last 12" and trying to pick a fish straight up. Dumass move.

yak'em-n-stack'em 03-06-2011 08:02 PM
Lol. There goes my answer.

To contribute to the thread.

I love falcon rods for the price. But they stopped their in store return policy.

So now if I ever need another conventional rod. It will prolly be shimano. But I got more than I need now plus 2 fly rods. So I'm good


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