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Reefman 10-05-2011 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by oysterking (Post 331930)
hope to see yall out there ill dredge every reef your fishing on and 4years be back in lake


you very funny person i bet you troll for your oysters

"W" 10-05-2011 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by oysterking (Post 331949)
tong only would be great ,but you can only take and take for so many years and not put back every where was grants to build new reefs are rebuild reefs you see that happening here ,closing the lake was right the way they did the permits was wrong it should have been local only cameron and calcasieu people thats been oystering all there life didnt get one but people with out boats got one just to try to run a boat thats what the upsets about


I agree with this statement....but your WL&F is who you call for than answer

oysterking 10-05-2011 03:19 PM

i got a license so no i didnt go

"W" 10-05-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by oysterking (Post 331952)
i got a license so no i didnt go


Then what are you complaining about???? You get your oysters and make your money....... Sounds good to me

Duck Butter 10-05-2011 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Reefman (Post 331950)
you very funny person i bet you troll for your oysters


:grinpimp: Almost like watching 'w' have an argument with himself:D

RatherBFishin 10-05-2011 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 331951)
I agree with this statement....but your WL&F is who you call for than answer

X2 I don't agree with outsiders getting permits over long term local guys. Thats BS!

"W" 10-05-2011 03:53 PM

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Micah 10-05-2011 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 331981)
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Over excitement?

Kenner18 10-05-2011 03:56 PM

Good question "W" ....
Oh and what exactly would Rambo do ? I didnt know he oystered.

oysterking 10-05-2011 04:01 PM

im not complaining just letting you know what their complaining about

oysterking 10-05-2011 04:03 PM

we dont do it cause its easy we do it cause we love being on the water unlike you sportys that sit at work at think about being out there we get that every day nothing else like it

"W" 10-05-2011 04:04 PM

And can you tell the guy in white boots with the "What would Rambo Sign" to please join up and explain that to us.... I hope he know Rambo is a fictional figure and not a real guy who will save the oyster world

Jordan 10-05-2011 04:06 PM

it should read.... what would "W" do ?

oysterking 10-05-2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 331997)
And can you tell the guy in white boots with the "What would Rambo Sign" to please join up and explain that to us.... I hope he know Rambo is a fictional figure and not a real guy who will save the oyster world



lol ,i agree with you on that havnt figured that out yet what that ment

oysterking 10-05-2011 04:09 PM

maybe that was "w" out there with that sign thats why his bringing so much attention to it

oysterking 10-05-2011 04:10 PM

nice boots "w"

Kenner18 10-05-2011 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by oysterking (Post 331996)
we dont do it cause its easy we do it cause we love being on the water unlike you sportys that sit at work at think about being out there we get that every day nothing else like it

Not everyone here is a Sporty as you call it. Some of us are guides that make a living on the water also .

oysterking 10-05-2011 04:13 PM

:cry:i guess my crab pots are in the way to you get ur hooks caught on them

YellowMouth7 10-05-2011 04:17 PM

My hats off to you all for keeping it civil thus far

oysterking 10-05-2011 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenner18 (Post 332005)
Not everyone here is a Sporty as you call it. Some of us are guides that make a living on the water also .


yes i know i could say ur job is easy but its not i have that license too ,clients ,weather ,having to know the waters like you do just anyone couldnt do it ,but you love it wouldnt trade it for the world

oysterking 10-05-2011 04:21 PM

civils the only way to be im not mad at ya jus saw the tread wanted to mess with yall everyone was their place on the water i pass you ,i wave ,slow down even go around when fishing in my crab pot lines but most of yall dont give that to us some do but not alot

SULPHITE 10-05-2011 04:25 PM

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but you love it wouldnt trade it for the world
i understand your love for your job...but your job could be in jepordy b/c of overfishing, do you agree...

I want insight from someone in this line of work.

oysterking 10-05-2011 04:26 PM

its been fun sorry to get yalls strings in a knot

SULPHITE 10-05-2011 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by oysterking (Post 332015)
its been fun sorry to get yalls strings in a knot

No its fine at least you can admit your just poking...

But is there a concern of overfishing within the oystering community...I wish I could say local oysterfisherman but we all know its not.

DUCKGOGETTER 10-05-2011 04:30 PM

Oysterking=iron man i think

oysterking 10-05-2011 04:32 PM

no i dont agree i think there could have been a better way ,have the wlf out more checking all these boys that have 3,4,5 boats one owner thats were your over fishings coming from not the ones out there to make a honest living ,ive tonged we would finish 15 sacks by 10:30 and dredging 9:30 not to much different now the first week of tonging was bad and sore .like always it gread

SULPHITE 10-05-2011 04:39 PM

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3,4,5 boats one owner
I agree on that!

Duck Butter 10-05-2011 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DUCKGOGETTER (Post 332019)
Oysterking=iron man i think

i think oysterman = 'w', look at the spellin urrors!

"W" 10-05-2011 04:46 PM

As far as crab traps....yes a few years ago their was 3000 right in front of grand bayou..and I hit a few of the which cost me $$$

Now its a lot better!! Thanks for clearing the out around the lake

And I agree that everyone who tong before should have 1st permits! I don't have a problem with oysters fisherman! I have a problem with 110 boats on one reef for 5 days, and watch them get a basket full and run to the bank and dump the small ones out and other shell, it does no good on the bank!

"W" 10-05-2011 04:48 PM

And I also have a problem with the outlaws! For christ sake the WL&F had to get a surveillance plane to spy on all the boats taking oysters from protected reefs! Oyster fisherman had more violations than all others combine last year!

That's is another negative for us who love our estuary and like to protect it!

cajunhntr03 10-05-2011 08:25 PM

maybe Chuck Norris should help out

cajunhntr03 10-05-2011 08:26 PM

i agree that hte local guys should have gotten the permits first I have a buddy that has been oystering for 15 years and didnt get a permit That aint right

Kenner18 10-05-2011 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cajunhntr03 (Post 332107)
maybe chuck norris should help out


l m a o

Raymond 10-05-2011 09:15 PM

From the news report today, Senator Moorish is crawfishing and now supports the oystermen. More info will come out in the days to come and I will be extremely disappointed if he decides to PUNK OUT.

greenhorn0598 10-05-2011 09:58 PM

i am a local oyster fisherman from cameron and a majority of the problems is caused by people not nocking the undersized oysters off the legal oysters dwlf needed to be out more often than they were checking the right people instead of picking on the same few every time they were out

jonboy726 10-05-2011 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 332146)
From the news report today, Senator Moorish is crawfishing and now supports the oystermen. More info will come out in the days to come and I will be extremely disappointed if he decides to PUNK OUT.

I wouldn't say that. I think that he realizes there may have been a better solution. Not changing the permit system as a whole but definitely researching more to accommodate the local fishermen better while still being successful at preserving the resource. This law was rushed in and lacks input from the local commercial fisherman's standpoint. I believe the idea of this is beneficial but as of right now it is not fair the way it played out.

meaux fishing 10-05-2011 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cajunhntr03 (Post 332107)
maybe Chuck Norris should help out

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greenhorn0598 10-05-2011 11:55 PM

does any body know the worst thing to ever happen to commercial fishing GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!!

"W" 10-06-2011 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by greenhorn0598 (Post 332208)
does any body know the worst thing to ever happen to commercial fishing GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!!

Do you know the worst thing that happened to big lake? Dredging

Raymond 10-06-2011 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jonboy726 (Post 332175)
I wouldn't say that. I think that he realizes there may have been a better solution. Not changing the permit system as a whole but definitely researching more to accommodate the local fishermen better while still being successful at preserving the resource. This law was rushed in and lacks input from the local commercial fisherman's standpoint. I believe the idea of this is beneficial but as of right now it is not fair the way it played out.

The Oyster Lobby was beneficial in making the bill what it is today so they would be the ones to protest to first IMO. Managing resources for the future does not have to put people out of business. What happened the last 3 years will put people out of business so you locals need to figure out what you want. I am all for limited permits based on the number of trip tickets from those who tonged previously. Those permits would be tied to each fisherman but able to be stripped if violations occur. Right now, the oystermen have no skin in the game. Without skin in the game the problem will never be fixed because you have no reason to fix it. 40 years ago deer hunters had no skin in the game because timber companies allowed free range on their properties. There were also very few deer because of the free for all mentality of the general hunting public. Once the timber companies started leasing, the clubs actually had skin in the game and wanted to manage the resource for the future. It has been a resounding succcess all over the united states. The answer to the problem is really not that difficult.

SULPHITE 10-06-2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 332347)
The Oyster Lobby was beneficial in making the bill what it is today so they would be the ones to protest to first IMO. Managing resources for the future does not have to put people out of business. What happened the last 3 years will put people out of business so you locals need to figure out what you want. I am all for limited permits based on the number of trip tickets from those who tonged previously. Those permits would be tied to each fisherman but able to be stripped if violations occur. Right now, the oystermen have no skin in the game. Without skin in the game the problem will never be fixed because you have no reason to fix it. 40 years ago deer hunters had no skin in the game because timber companies allowed free range on their properties. There were also very few deer because of the free for all mentality of the general hunting public. Once the timber companies started leasing, the clubs actually had skin in the game and wanted to manage the resource for the future. It has been a resounding succcess all over the united states. The answer to the problem is really not that difficult.

-----GREED-----

cmdrost 10-06-2011 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jonboy726 (Post 332175)
I wouldn't say that. I think that he realizes there may have been a better solution. Not changing the permit system as a whole but definitely researching more to accommodate the local fishermen better while still being successful at preserving the resource. This law was rushed in and lacks input from the local commercial fisherman's standpoint. I believe the idea of this is beneficial but as of right now it is not fair the way it played out.

Morrish met with members of both the Cameron Oyster Task Force and the Calcasieu Oyster Task Force to help shape his bill. Oyster men who are mad need to take it up with their respective task forces.

"W" 10-06-2011 02:38 PM

Oyster men have zero respect for our lake.....they might have a hand full that do respect it but its a small group!

Again...violations prove this by the numbers!

mikedatiger 10-06-2011 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by greenhorn0598 (Post 332172)
i am a local oyster fisherman from cameron and a majority of the problems is caused by people not nocking the undersized oysters off the legal oysters dwlf needed to be out more often than they were checking the right people instead of picking on the same few every time they were out

Why is always up to some one else to check on others? If people were more honest in the actions then you wouldn't need as many checks in many different facets of our lives. DWLF doesn't know who the "right people" are so they have to check everybody. If it were me, and my livelyhood depended on it, I'd make dang sure that everyone else in the sandbox knew the rules and played by em. From my perspective it seems like a simple case of greed...

"W" 10-06-2011 02:58 PM

I bet I called WL&F on oyterboats 15 times last year...I caught 5 of them north of Yank Jon...

iron man 10-06-2011 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DUCKGOGETTER (Post 332019)
Oysterking=iron man i think

I don't even like oysters.

flounder_smacker 10-06-2011 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by iron man (Post 332476)
I don't even like oysters.


:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:: rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::r otfl::rotfl:

Jordan 10-06-2011 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Montauk17 (Post 332489)
Fixed it :)


touche'

greenhorn0598 10-06-2011 11:02 PM

actually dredging is not the worst thing to happen to the lake since the dredge has been allowed the reefs are bigger the worst thing is the people who do not cull their oysters right the people who sell the undersized oysters and buyers who buy them is the main problem

greenhorn0598 10-06-2011 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mikedatiger (Post 332442)
Why is always up to some one else to check on others? If people were more honest in the actions then you wouldn't need as many checks in many different facets of our lives. DWLF doesn't know who the "right people" are so they have to check everybody. If it were me, and my livelyhood depended on it, I'd make dang sure that everyone else in the sandbox knew the rules and played by em. From my perspective it seems like a simple case of greed...

me personally i have no violations and i have told wlf who, where ,and when they went in the other lake(west cove) i was in big lake and they checked 2 boats and left or they will get out after noon when the ones who were outlawing were already gone


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