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fishfighter 12-15-2011 02:02 PM

o and i believe a 14p stainless prop

scott craft 12-15-2011 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by fishfighter (Post 363352)
you guys gotta help me out then, i am ashamed to say i have a 16foot express that maxes out at 31 by myself with hardly anything in it, it is a side console with front and back decks, it is a 1997 setup 40hp yamaha, it runs 28-30 with two people and gear

As was said earlier, you are probably about where you should be. You could put a tach on it and make sure you're propped correctly.

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Originally Posted by fishfighter (Post 363364)
a 25hp running 35 is wow, a 40 hp running 40+mph is wow

Weedeater's 25 is a long way from stock and so are 40's running over 40.

Dink 12-15-2011 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by scott craft (Post 363521)
As was said earlier, you are probably about where you should be. You could put a tach on it and make sure you're propped correctly.



Weedeater's 25 is a long way from stock and so are 40's running over 40.

I'm running a stock Nissan 40......got lots of prop tho!!

scott craft 12-15-2011 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dink (Post 363529)
I'm running a stock Nissan 40......got lots of prop tho!!

I need a 40 so bad! You're making me jealous, lol.

Raymond 12-15-2011 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fishfighter (Post 363463)
o and i believe a 14p stainless prop

I would come down 1 off the pitch, my merc 40 is running a 13p and is way more motor than a yamaha. After duck season you can try my prop is you wish and see if it helps. Beats buying or repitching existing prop before ya know for sure. Also have an 11p you can try that might work, both have tunnel cups though.

Dink 12-15-2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by scott craft (Post 363533)
I need a 40 so bad! You're making me jealous, lol.

Don't be, its very scary!!! I was coming down the ship channel one day, passing a guide boat and caught a head wind......boat left the water!!!! Scared the crap outta me!! I'm sure those guys got a good laugh. Ive since changed the prop, but still have the big one for the thrill seeking days!!

scott craft 12-15-2011 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dink (Post 363546)
Don't be, its very scary!!! I was coming down the ship channel one day, passing a guide boat and caught a head wind......boat left the water!!!! Scared the crap outta me!! I'm sure those guys got a good laugh. Ive since changed the prop, but still have the big one for the thrill seeking days!!

I really want more than what a 25 will do. A guy I work with has a 40 nissan with 50 carbs and all the other stuff on a 1548 southfork with cmc trim and he runs 40 with two people and gear in the boat.

fishfighter 12-15-2011 03:21 PM

thanks
 
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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 363539)
I would come down 1 off the pitch, my merc 40 is running a 13p and is way more motor than a yamaha. After duck season you can try my prop is you wish and see if it helps. Beats buying or repitching existing prop before ya know for sure. Also have an 11p you can try that might work, both have tunnel cups though.

thanks ray, but you in lake charles i am in lafayette , that is a long way to go just to try out a prop, and i believe the tunnel cup on it will be to much, i have access to others close by to be able to try out different props just didn't get around to it yet, i had a 40 evinrude on a 15foot tunnel and i put some tunnel cup on a 17p prop and it made a big difference picked up around 5mph but i still was only running 36-37 by myself, lol 40-42 would be awesome

speck cc 12-15-2011 03:25 PM

16ft cc lakesport alum... 50hp yammy 2 stroke... 34mph loaded to the gills

Raymond 12-15-2011 03:25 PM

How you have enough motor to turn a 17p prop??? I am in and out of Laf all the time, not a big deal. Would suggest calling Toups in Abbeville.

weedeater 12-15-2011 03:26 PM

Weedeater's 25 is a long way from stock and so are 40's running over 40.[/QUOTE]

to be honest my motor runs no differnt now then before I had my carb work done, the biggest gain was my exhaust being opened up. If I would be willing to sacrifice the life of my motor and have it port, polished and head shaved it would do alot more but right now all I have is a 25hp 3 cylinder with 40 carbs that are restricted in jets due to me not wanting to do block work but if I wold have more done this motor would most likely see 40mph but then agin I bought a 200hp on a boat so I could go fast if I wanted and save the life of the 25 for what its made for.

scott craft 12-15-2011 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fishfighter (Post 363560)
thanks ray, but you in lake charles i am in lafayette , that is a long way to go just to try out a prop, and i believe the tunnel cup on it will be to much, i have access to others close by to be able to try out different props just didn't get around to it yet, i had a 40 evinrude on a 15foot tunnel and i put some tunnel cup on a 17p prop and it made a big difference picked up around 5mph but i still was only running 36-37 by myself, lol 40-42 would be awesome

You can buy a tiny tach for around 40 dollars. That would tell you where your rpm's are and give you an idea of what direction you would need to go on another prop.

weedeater 12-15-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fishfighter (Post 363463)
o and i believe a 14p stainless prop

you maybe very suprised at what a 13p or even a 12p with cup would do

Dink 12-15-2011 03:29 PM

Difference is the hull. If I was to do that, I'd need a spoiler to stay in contact with the water.......I haven't even removed the restricted plate on it.....may do that before I use it again, just to see.

scott craft 12-15-2011 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 363568)
Weedeater's 25 is a long way from stock and so are 40's running over 40.

to be honest my motor runs no differnt now then before I had my carb work done, the biggest gain was my exhaust being opened up. If I would be willing to sacrifice the life of my motor and have it port, polished and head shaved it would do alot more but right now all I have is a 25hp 3 cylinder with 40 carbs that are restricted in jets due to me not wanting to do block work but if I wold have more done this motor would most likely see 40mph but then agin I bought a 200hp on a boat so I could go fast if I wanted and save the life of the 25 for what its made for.[/QUOTE]

You could get Danny Thibodeax in the Bluff to modify your reed plate if you had the metal reeds and stops still. He's done a lot of motors like yours and they run really well with that modification alone and no change in motor life. My 30 yamaha with the reed plate alone was running 32-33 with just me in the boat and negative trim.

weedeater 12-15-2011 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dink (Post 363574)
Difference is the hull. If I was to do that, I'd need a spoiler to stay in contact with the water.......I haven't even removed the restricted plate on it.....may do that before I use it again, just to see.

what kind and size boat are you pushing

weedeater 12-15-2011 03:33 PM

You could get Danny Thibodeax in the Bluff to modify your reed plate if you had the metal reeds and stops still. He's done a lot of motors like yours and they run really well with that modification alone and no change in motor life. My 30 yamaha with the reed plate alone was running 32-33 with just me in the boat and negative trim.[/QUOTE]

the reed plate was worked over also....all that I have though is the carbs, reed plate and exhaust but like I say carbs are limited still on jets

scott craft 12-15-2011 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 363580)
You could get Danny Thibodeax in the Bluff to modify your reed plate if you had the metal reeds and stops still. He's done a lot of motors like yours and they run really well with that modification alone and no change in motor life. My 30 yamaha with the reed plate alone was running 32-33 with just me in the boat and negative trim.

the reed plate was worked over also....all that I have though is the carbs, reed plate and exhaust but like I say carbs are limited still on jets[/QUOTE]

You don't need bigger jets. Danny could really help you out on that motor.

Dink 12-15-2011 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 363577)
what kind and size boat are you pushing

13ft Boston Whaler

weedeater 12-15-2011 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by scott craft (Post 363583)
the reed plate was worked over also....all that I have though is the carbs, reed plate and exhaust but like I say carbs are limited still on jets

You don't need bigger jets. Danny could really help you out on that motor.[/QUOTE]
it does all it needs for me, if someone buys it they can put more money in it, I have a boat to do 70+ no use in me spending more on this one;)

weedeater 12-15-2011 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dink (Post 363584)
13ft Boston Whaler

guessing its pretty light

fishfighter 12-15-2011 03:42 PM

no yam
 
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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 363566)
How you have enough motor to turn a 17p prop??? I am in and out of Laf all the time, not a big deal. Would suggest calling Toups in Abbeville.

that was on my old motor evinrude had a bigger foot and plenty of tourque, i have a yamaha now

Big Country7807 12-15-2011 04:02 PM

Running a 16ft express with a 70hp yamaha and might get 40mph! 17 pitch prop.

MarshrunnerBoats 12-18-2011 11:30 PM

Currently, we have an old,1980's 25 merc on a 16.5' new Marshrunner, and it makes 28-30 mhp. With a newer motor, you get more speed, of course!

paul

CajunChristian 12-20-2011 08:59 AM

You guess. 4 stroke, 4 cylinder, 40hp Merc with a 60 ecu, turning a 16 pitch prop 6250 rpm on an Edge 556. You will see a lot more of these hulls real soon.



weedeater 12-20-2011 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CajunChristian (Post 365279)
You guess. 4 stroke, 4 cylinder, 40hp Merc with a 60 ecu, turning a 16 pitch prop 6250 rpm on an Edge 556. You will see a lot more of these hulls real soon.


good2.mp4 video by 1995US1 - Photobucket

can't pull a pic up but I would like to see one of the 4strokes hoped up

scott craft 12-20-2011 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CajunChristian (Post 365279)
You guess. 4 stroke, 4 cylinder, 40hp Merc with a 60 ecu, turning a 16 pitch prop 6250 rpm on an Edge 556. You will see a lot more of these hulls real soon.


good2.mp4 video by 1995US1 - Photobucket

Nice to see you here Danny.

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PaulMyers 12-20-2011 09:39 AM

What you been up to Danny? I haven't seen you since you left CITGO.

EVO

fishfighter 12-20-2011 10:23 AM

i got my boat up to 38mph saturday, with the wind and the current pushing down river, it was awesome, but i was only doing 26 up river hahahaha

Natural Light Kid 12-20-2011 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CajunChristian (Post 365279)
You guess. 4 stroke, 4 cylinder, 40hp Merc with a 60 ecu, turning a 16 pitch prop 6250 rpm on an Edge 556. You will see a lot more of these hulls real soon.


good2.mp4 video by 1995US1 - Photobucket

Never heard of an edge boat. Where can I find some info on one? Not to be smart, but what makes them so special?

outcast 12-20-2011 05:38 PM

I can pole my action craft 1.9 mph in a 10mph headwind.

scott craft 12-20-2011 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Natural Light Kid (Post 365513)
Never heard of an edge boat. Where can I find some info on one? Not to be smart, but what makes them so special?

Here's their website: http://www.edgeboats.com/

CajunChristian 12-20-2011 06:36 PM

Paul, it's been terrible since I left Citgo. I am forced to sleep in my own bed every night, I have ALL holidays off now, work no overtime, actually work no time. There is life after Citgo. It has been a wonderful 10 years, the best of my life. And at the same time, I must say that Citgo was very good to me. I have nothing but good things to say about the way I was treated before and after I left.

Lake Area is now the Edge dealer in this area. They will stock the 1550 and the 1556. My 1556, called a 556, weighs 352 pounds empty.
What makes them so fast??? It's all about the bottom design. Notice in the video how the boat sits up on the pad and flies??? Well, there really is no pad, just a well designed bottom. As for hopping up a 4 stroke, mine is a 4 cylinder 40 with a 60hp ecu, that's it. It runs just like a 4 stroke 60 would run. And the 556 Edge is rated for a 60hp motor.
The boat runs 52mph with just me, a large battery, and 12 gallons of fuel, 49mph with another 200 pound man.
Anybody want a ride, just drop me a line at acts1013@bellsouth.net

Danny

weedeater 12-20-2011 07:05 PM

I have a 3cylinder 25hp yammy, wonder how it would do on that boat..... may have to go look at them.

CajunChristian 12-20-2011 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 365579)
I have a 3cylinder 25hp yammy, wonder how it would do on that boat..... may have to go look at them.

Got a guy in Indiana with a box stock, 3 cylinder, 30hp, yamaha, with aluminum prop, running 35+ on the 556. I have his buddies 3 cylinder yammie in my shop right now, sprinkling a little magic dust inside:D It will mount on a 550, should be quick.
So far, it is the fastest aluminum hull we have found.
D

weedeater 12-20-2011 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CajunChristian (Post 365582)
Got a guy in Indiana with a box stock, 3 cylinder, 30hp, yamaha, with aluminum prop, running 35+ on the 556. I have his buddies 3 cylinder yammie in my shop right now, sprinkling a little magic dust inside:D It will mount on a 550, should be quick.
So far, it is the fastest aluminum hull we have found.
D

when you get done post some numbers for what his runs please. Mine has 40carbs, reeds cut and exhaust opened..... needs alittle fine tuneing but I will be buying another boat to put it on and would be interested in that boat. Thanks Jason

scott craft 12-20-2011 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CajunChristian (Post 365582)
Got a guy in Indiana with a box stock, 3 cylinder, 30hp, yamaha, with aluminum prop, running 35+ on the 556.
D

Very interesting.....

PaulMyers 12-20-2011 08:45 PM

Danny, you still in the same house? I need to come visit sometime.

EVO

CajunChristian 12-20-2011 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulMyers (Post 365642)
Danny, you still in the same house? I need to come visit sometime.

EVO


Yep, in the exact same place. Come by anytime Paul, be great to see you again. Be forewarned, you won't see the same guy you knew at Citgo. Seems that me and the Lord have come to a much better understanding. He didn't change, I did:D
Weed: I just finished a 25 yammie that went to arkansas. On a 1548 War Eagle boat, the motor turns a 15 pitch prop 6100 rpm. That kid is flying. He has an Edge 550 ordered, should be an interesting ride.
D

CajunChristian 12-20-2011 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 365579)
I have a 3cylinder 25hp yammy, wonder how it would do on that boat..... may have to go look at them.


The only one they have in stock is a 1650, OD green. Here is a pic of mine at the factory and apic of the motor with the decals and a shot of the back so you can see part of the bottom:

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0326.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...US1/good-1.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0327.jpg

PaulMyers 12-20-2011 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CajunChristian (Post 365699)
Yep, in the exact same place. Come by anytime Paul, be great to see you again. Be forewarned, you won't see the same guy you knew at Citgo. Seems that me and the Lord have come to a much better understanding. He didn't change, I did:D

I've changed some in the past 10 years also! LOL

I'll wait until next week as not to ruin your Christmas. ;) and I'll be on my 7 off.

Merry Christmas and plan on seeing me on your doorstep Monday or Tuesday my friend.


EVO

Natural Light Kid 12-20-2011 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CajunChristian (Post 365582)
Got a guy in Indiana with a box stock, 3 cylinder, 30hp, yamaha, with aluminum prop, running 35+ on the 556. I have his buddies 3 cylinder yammie in my shop right now, sprinkling a little magic dust inside:D It will mount on a 550, should be quick.
So far, it is the fastest aluminum hull we have found.
D


Are y'all having any porpoising issues with these wide widths? Are you running jack plates on them? How do they do in the marsh?

CajunChristian 12-21-2011 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Natural Light Kid (Post 365769)
Are y'all having any porpoising issues with these wide widths? Are you running jack plates on them? How do they do in the marsh?

No bounce whatsoever. It's all in the bottom design. Someone finally used hi perf bass boat technology on small aluminum boats. Only problem I have had is when accelerating hard, if you trim up too fast, the boat starts to chine walk. You have to trim a tad. let the boat catch up, trim a bit more let the boat catch up, then you're ok. Trim up too fast and you get a tank slapper going. As far as poirpoising, none with any engine we have tested. Boats seem to top out well at about 1-2 degrees positive trim and with no weight adjustments, no trim tabs. That was one of my pet peeves when we designed the bottom of this hull. I run 10" of setback, I run a Bob's hydraulic lift with 6" of lift. It floats higher than my 1552 WeldBilt did. As for the marsh, it does great in Sabine, same place we used to run our WeldBilts.

fishfighter 12-21-2011 08:13 AM

hey cajunchristian, that boat looks a lot like an excel boat, what are the difference between an edge and an excel

weedeater 12-21-2011 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by fishfighter (Post 365798)
hey cajunchristian, that boat looks a lot like an excel boat, what are the difference between an edge and an excel

I noticed the same thing but if you look at the weights the Edge 330lb is quite a bit lighter then Excel 420lb

fishfighter 12-21-2011 10:08 AM

boat
 
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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 365822)
I noticed the same thing but if you look at the weights the Edge 330lb is quite a bit lighter then Excel 420lb

some may say that means a better built boat, i am not ragging on any thing nor am i promoting anything, just fishing for info, weight difference is in the aluminum, edge is .090 and the excel is .100

weedeater 12-21-2011 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by fishfighter (Post 365842)
some may say that means a better built boat, i am not ragging on any thing nor am i promoting anything, just fishing for info, weight difference is in the aluminum, edge is .090 and the excel is .100

that was what I saw was weight, not sure what other difference there is. I saw the hull thickness also but I know for me personaly the difference in the two thickness wise would not be an issue being I am not bashing boat on trees like a lot of the guys do that hunt flooded timber, a lot of other boats are only .080 and they donot have ribbing like the Edge, Excel and Xpress HD

1fastmerc 12-21-2011 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 365853)
that was what I saw was weight, not sure what other difference there is. I saw the hull thickness also but I know for me personaly the difference in the two thickness wise would not be an issue being I am not bashing boat on trees like a lot of the guys do that hunt flooded timber, a lot of other boats are only .080 and they donot have ribbing like the Edge, Excel and Xpress HD

Where have you seen other than little jon boats that are .80?


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weedeater 12-21-2011 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 1fastmerc (Post 365869)
Where have you seen other than little jon boats that are .80?


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Alweld, Xpress, Weldbuilt, Southfork..... most of these in the 15'range are .80 gauge unless you order heavier gauge

1fastmerc 12-21-2011 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 365893)
Alweld, Xpress, Weldbuilt, Southfork..... most of these in the 15'range are .80 gauge unless you order heavier gauge

Ok so they are more or less pond boats rated for small motors.


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