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all star rod 02-15-2012 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 393397)
Have you had anymore cracking issues with this boat

NO, not since I had xpress add rib/seam. I have used it 10-15 since. For example, my uncle has a X70 which is the X19 now (same hull design as my x22) for 12 years and never had an issue. I just have bad luck.....

Are you still looking at getting a boat..

all star rod 02-15-2012 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 393409)
Nope found me a trition about a week before I was going to pull the trigger

alum or fiberglass....I know at one time triton did make a alum bay boat...

ckinchen 02-15-2012 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 393389)
Let's see......yes...buddy of mine L T had one...fished with him a few times

Loud
Wet
Beats the hell out of you in chop
Real noisy when fishing out of it
It spliton him a few times

He sold it and bought a Champion

Ok good, that was helpful thanks. You managed to not bring up your supreme boat or that he was making what you think is a bad decison. I am proud of you, maybe there is hope.

"W" 02-15-2012 09:54 PM

Don't push it Chicken

PUREBAY2200 02-15-2012 09:55 PM

Uh ooooooo...... W making bold statements.

PaulMyers 02-15-2012 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 393429)
Uh ooooooo...... W making bold statements.

Why don't you go premium so you can see what else he is doing? :eek:

+1

ckinchen 02-15-2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 393426)
Don't push it Chicken

U mad....

Stop being a horses ____ to people in the open area. Save your over the top egocentric tendencies for the gill net.

Some people come to the site to learn and benefit from all of the knowledge our members have. You also have a great deal of knowledge to share if you can let your ego shut down for 5 minutes and not worry about being the center of attention in every thread. Not everyone comes here to be entertained by the great "W".

Ok let's move on.

PUREBAY2200 02-15-2012 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulMyers (Post 393434)
Why don't you go premium so you can see what else he is doing? :eek:

+1

I was notified already....
And have spoken my peace to the lil fella.

PaulMyers 02-15-2012 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 393442)
I was notified already....
And have spoken my peace to the lil fella.

Good deal!

+1

redaddiction 02-15-2012 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ckinchen (Post 393439)
U mad....

Stop being a horses ____ to people in the open area. Save your over the top egocentric tendencies for the gill net.

Some people come to the site to learn and benefit from all of the knowledge our members have. You also have a great deal of knowledge to share if you can let your ego shut down for 5 minutes and not worry about being the center of attention in every thread. Not everyone comes here to be entertained by the great "W".

Ok let's move on.


Yeah, I'm a new member and love the site. But man it didn't take long to notice certain people's habits.

Also, the express HD is a great boat but it does beat you up a bit in rough waters. I only been in a bay series express once but could tell the ride was much better.

ckinchen 02-15-2012 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by redaddiction (Post 393447)
Yeah, I'm a new member and love the site. But man it didn't take long to notice certain people's habits.

Thanks, glad to have you with us.

PUREBAY2200 02-15-2012 10:17 PM

Sooooo
Back to aluminum boats?
What the diff in the materials or thickness from an xpress to a gaudet , scully or the other custom boats?

mriguy 02-15-2012 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 393452)
Sooooo
Back to aluminum boats?
What the diff in the materials or thickness from an xpress to a gaudet , scully or the other custom boats?

Xpress hyperlift full is 0.125"

And pretty!

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H2OFwlKlr 02-15-2012 10:29 PM

^^^ Nice Boat!

Montauk17 02-15-2012 10:55 PM

In my experience they will hold up in calm waters. Pounding them in rough water it will only be a matter of time before it will crack or pop a weld. This is the case with nearly every factory built aluminum boat. Now the shop built boats like hanko and others mentioned will take a beating and last a lifetime.

Montauk17 02-15-2012 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 393452)
Sooooo
Back to aluminum boats?
What the diff in the materials or thickness from an xpress to a gaudet , scully or the other custom boats?

The biggest reason shop built boats hold up better is the amount of ribs they use. More ribs the less flex you will have in rough water. I know hankos uses 3/16th aluminum with a double bottom on their boats that will take a beating.

fishaholic82 02-15-2012 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 393452)
Sooooo
Back to aluminum boats?
What the diff in the materials or thickness from an xpress to a gaudet , scully or the other custom boats?

Thickness of the aluminum has a great deal to do with how much abuse it will take. I've had a few aluminum boats both factory buil and custom. Also with thinner metal it will flew more and leads to cracking welds if not properly braced and if you really pound one it doesn't matter how its braced when it thin(1/8th inch or less). My current boat is 21foot bay boat built by Sportsmans Fab in morgan city.the hule is built out of all 3/16th aluminum and a friend "bumped"his fiberglass mud boat against it at the camp and needless to say he needed fiberglass work to repair the damage and my boat barely had a stratch. Nothing against Xpress but a custom boat will usually take more abuse and last longer but they're more expensive as well.

PUREBAY2200 02-15-2012 11:03 PM

I remember seeing a big offshore all aluminum boat at the Nola boat show bout 5/6 years ago.
It was like 42 ft by 10 ft
They had pics of the build process

Loads of "ribs" on the whole boat!!
It was impressive.
Would like to find pics of it.

"W" 02-15-2012 11:07 PM

Freeboard = Winning

fishaholic82 02-15-2012 11:11 PM

PureBay- was it a Gravois? They stopped building boats for the public due to a government contract but have started selling to the public again under the name Metal Shark. They build some fine boats.

fishinpox 02-15-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 393488)
I remember seeing a big offshore all aluminum boat at the Nola boat show bout 5/6 years ago.
It was like 42 ft by 10 ft
They had pics of the build process

Loads of "ribs" on the whole boat!!
It was impressive.
Would like to find pics of it.

Jamie gaspards boat I believe

Montauk17 02-15-2012 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fishaholic82 (Post 393495)
PureBay- was it a Gravois? They stopped building boats for the public due to a government contract but have started selling to the public again under the name Metal Shark. They build some fine boats.

Metal Shark is the name they are using for the government boats.We saw the 40 footer with quads built for WLF in venice when we went tuna fishing last year. Giant boat! Gravios son makes bay style hulls for the public now. Name is american aluminum. They are sweet boats but big bucks. I want to say a 24 footer rigged out with a 300 is right at 80 grand.

PUREBAY2200 02-15-2012 11:18 PM

Yes, gravois!!
Love them boats!!
See a lot of those in Houma.

What's a 24-26 ft with twin 150 $$$$??

PUREBAY2200 02-15-2012 11:19 PM

Got it on $$$
We posted at same time

fishaholic82 02-16-2012 12:44 AM

I've seen used Gravois hulls(just the hull and tralier) being listed for anywhere from $20,000 to $50,000.

cmcnabb 02-16-2012 09:27 AM

If I was getting a custom aluminum boat, I would go around Morgan city. It seems like they build a lot of aluminum boats there. I went hunting over there and we launched at the berwick boat landing and there was about 6 acres full of trucks with trailers. When we picked up on Sunday, I didn't see a single glass boat out of about 50 people at the launch. It was all either duck skiffs with mud motors or custom built aluminum boats. They had some nice ones too. One was even built to go offshore, it was pretty cool

frogman 02-16-2012 09:50 PM

Guys thanks for all of your opinions . I was looking at another aluminum boat because thats all i've ever owned . My old boat has had more fish in it than a eighteen wheeler could haul . So i don't buy the therory that aluminum boats scare fish.

LSUlefty 02-19-2012 12:48 PM

I also am looking at the Xpress. One thing I noticed is there was a change in the 2012 models. The XP20 (HD hull) is now made with .125 gauge aluminum and has 26" sides. While the H20CC also has .125 gauge, but only 22" sides. I like the extra side depth, but do you sacrifice the ride?

mriguy 02-19-2012 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LSUlefty (Post 395082)
I also am looking at the Xpress. One thing I noticed is there was a change in the 2012 models. The XP20 (HD hull) is now made with .125 gauge aluminum and has 26" sides. While the H20CC also has .125 gauge, but only 22" sides. I like the extra side depth, but do you sacrifice the ride?

HUGE difference in the ride! I have the hyperlift and a buddy of mine has the HD. His boat runs shallow but pounds the crap out of you in any kind of chop.

LSUlefty 02-19-2012 01:02 PM

What's the draft difference between the two hulls?

Captain Mike P. 03-22-2012 10:39 AM

Hd= flat bottom with a slite v in the front.
Hyperlift= bass boat hull. The boat rises and rides on a pad like a bass boat. It also has a v in the front. The hyperlift will ride quite well in chop. I have never ridden in a hd, but hear they are terrible in chop.

24carotgoldcoonass 03-22-2012 11:39 AM

Get a yellowfin and be done with it. It's the best handling best riding boat I have ever been in. Second is champion. The faster you go the more stable the hull is. Its amazing.


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meaux fishing 03-22-2012 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 24carotgoldcoonass (Post 408925)
Get a yellowfin and be done with it. It's the best handling best riding boat I have ever been in. Second is champion. The faster you go the more stable the hull is. Its amazing.


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So we went from $20k to $80k boats?

:confused:

speck cc 03-22-2012 02:50 PM

how fast will the hyper lift 22ft go with a 150 yammy on it?

SULPHITE 03-22-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 408970)
So we went from $20k to $80k boats?

:confused:

whats another 60k pppsshhh! LOL! Yes a yellowfin would be a dream.

swamp snorkler 03-22-2012 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by speck cc (Post 409015)
how fast will the hyper lift 22ft go with a 150 yammy on it?


My uncle runs about 50 with his.

weedeater 03-22-2012 07:02 PM

I have a 19' hyperlift with a 200hp that runs 60mph loaded with gear and two guys or will do 70+ with lite load

1fastmerc 03-22-2012 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 409116)
I have a 19' hyperlift with a 200hp that runs 60mph loaded with gear and two guys or will do 70+ with lite load

That boat will run faster than dat loaded.


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weedeater 03-22-2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 1fastmerc (Post 409143)
That boat will run faster than dat loaded.


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that's including 30 gallons fuel and full live well

7and7fish 03-22-2012 07:55 PM

I have a HD 20. love it butt it is a rough ride in chop. I just pick my days for open water. July and August on BL with no wind it don't matter what u have.

speck cc 03-23-2012 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 409116)
I have a 19' hyperlift with a 200hp that runs 60mph loaded with gear and two guys or will do 70+ with lite load


:eek: blazin! if i can top out at 50 i'm good!

donniej 03-24-2012 09:03 AM

I have an 08 HD 20 ft Bay.....true, its not the smoothest ride,but it definately gets the job done. Yamaha 115 4 stroke that sips gas. Perfect for fresh or saltwater. Im happy with it.:work:

SULPHITE 03-24-2012 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by donniej (Post 409722)
I have an 08 HD 20 ft Bay.....true, its not the smoothest ride,but it definately gets the job done. Yamaha 115 4 stroke that sips gas. Perfect for fresh or saltwater. Im happy with it.:work:

All that matters!!

all star rod 03-24-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by speck cc (Post 409015)
how fast will the hyper lift 22ft go with a 150 yammy on it?

Mine with 3 people and gear..47 to 50....i have a 19" power tech 3 blade prop.

Captain Mike P. 03-28-2012 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by speck cc (Post 409015)
how fast will the hyper lift 22ft go with a 150 yammy on it?

I have a 175, but hear the 150 4 stroke yamaha will hit 53 with light gear. My 175 hit 56 @ 5900 RPM with 2 guys and full fishing gear.

speck cc 03-30-2012 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Mike P. (Post 411241)
I have a 175, but hear the 150 4 stroke yamaha will hit 53 with light gear. My 175 hit 56 @ 5900 RPM with 2 guys and full fishing gear.

perfect!

ragincajun327 03-30-2012 08:58 PM

My X21b (hyperlift) with a 150 yamaha 2 stroke does 50 bare and 40 loaded. I like it a lot.


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