Should I post a pic of my speck/blue hybrid?

Clearly I wasn't privy to this information. In light of this new evidence I must agree it is indeed a green winged pinsquaw

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Is that the hybrid speck/blue u shot dis past season?

Yep

Dude! That has got to be one of the most badass looking geese I've ever seen! Cool bird!

Now that one definitely has some pintail in it.

It looks like it may have some Tundra Swan in it as well! I can tell by the way it's knee joints bend.

lol knee joints u da man for that one

looks more like a black panther/shaved coon/speck cross

Shot this hybrid last year!! Not sure the exact cross but defiantly has some spoon bill in it

aflac hybrid

I'm going to say it's a young Eurasian teal. Very similar to your normal gwt.

Nice mount regardless.

That is a great observation... Way better idea than a teal/woodcock/pintail mix....

Take away the painted blue beak and feet, and voila! young Eurasian Teal!

How would a young teal be 2 times the size of a standard GWT?? Ya'll don't make any sense! Its a Hybrid, Doesn't look anything like a Eurasian. I showed the bird to someone with a Masters in Reproductive Sciences from LSU Vet and he believes it to be a mix. I can provide any of the nay-sayers his contact info.

Also, just to further satisfy the people who have never seen a hybrid in person and just wanted to say its a dressed up GWT. He has taken the bird to be viewed by his former professors and will get a final write up on it. I'll post their finding....

I should get an email back from LSU's Waterfowl expert later today. I will have no problem stating whatever he claims it to be. Whether its a hybrid or just a juvenile with unique plumage.

how come in the picture of the bird in your hand it has no blue on its beak.. and in the pic of the mount on your wall it is painted blue?

It looks like it's just a glare on the beak

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I've killed or been around thousands of green winged teal drakes in my life. Never killed or seen one that looks like that.

Let me know when one of yall kill a green wing teal that looks like that, and as far as a eurasian teal, that would be just as rare as a hybrid. There is hardly any distinction between the green wing teal and the eurasian green wing teal. The few eurasian teal that have been seen in the US have been in Oregon.

It's clearly a green winged teal/pintail hybrid. Ask any reputable taxidermist that has been successful in the business for, lets say, 20+ years.

Here is another one http://www.zoochat.com/1118/green-wi...intail-215126/

Steve German has probably the only mounted pair of pintail/greenwinged teal hybrids in the country, and the drake looks exactly like the one in this thread. Go take a look.

I'd really like to see his pair and how they compare to my mount. Glad I was able to get an Educated Opinion finally!!

Great Bird man I believe 100% you are right

sooooooooooooo where did the painted blue beak come from?

40 years of taxidermy experience.

Haha the bill doesn't have to blue for it to be a hybrid

Man I don't know how any of y'all can tell the color of that bill in the first pic on this thread. How does anyone know what color it was except the OP?

I too would trust Dr. Rowher's word. The man has studied waterfowl for many years, and definitely knows his stuff.

It's a beautiful bird! You're a lucky man

How come you just don't put the mount next to another one to show how big it is?? Or is this your only duck mount?

Too me that would shut up the haters

Hatas gonna hate, don't matta if ya gots proof.

Here is the bird next to a pintail pair and my other Hybrid.. Those birds were very large so it's tough to really see how big the GWT/Pintail is my comparison.. To me, it would only show how large the duck is by putting it next to another GWT or even a BWT but I don't know anyone who has one mounted.. Attachment 66167

And to be honest I really don't feel like I need to prove anything to the haters.. If they want to look past an expert opinion, that's there problem...

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nobody is hating.... all i ask was where the painted blue bill came from...

and it is not an expert opinion with the delta guy specifically said he was not an expert in hybrids...

and why would you need to argue proof over the internet about ANYTHING??

Who the hell is an expert in something that, in a group of birds with millions of individuals, happens very seldom? Its not like there are millions of these out there.

The guy is an expert on waterfowl ID. Even if he isn't an expert on hybrids, a hybrid is probably going to have markings similar to the 2 parent species. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that he can look at the bird and see markings prevalent in 2 or more species.

At Least somebody gets it!!

I do have an email out to Jörn Lehmhus, who is world renown for his knowledge in Hybrids! Ha
Maybe he will respond. Until then, I guess we will have to take the opinion of just an Expert on Waterfowl ID!!

It looks as big or bigger than that pintail hen at least.


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Yeah if it's a teal it's one hell of a monster green wing.

WELL GUESS THIS SUMS IT UP!!! Also, here is a link to a page of other varies Teal Hybrids and mentions Joern and his EXPERT reputation.
http://10000birds.com/hybrid-teals.htm

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I think it's a good looking bird. Very nice mount too.

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Thanks Dave!!

no **** man.... all i ask is where did the painted blue bill come from since it didnt have a blue bill in the picture of the dude holding it..

man y'all shouldn't get so upset..

Cgoods17, The bird did have some blue tint to his upper bill upon being shot, which is when he is being held in my hand. Dr. Joern Lehmhus also further pointed that out in his response to me.

My taxidermist, accentuated it by painting it more blue to further bring out the Pintail in the bird. In my opinion it does not correctly display what the actual bird features are... With that being said, I am having him correct the bill to match the Actual Bill, which is mostly black with a hint of blue at the base.

Hope this clears up any confusion on the matter!

it is all good man, just giving you a hard time


wooo-saaaaahhhhhh

went and pick my hybrid up from taxidermy before he mounted it. will be sending it off to Spokane Wa to have tissue samples taken to verify what it's parents were. Had a call from biologist today about sending it. said this is very rare combo. Will be interested in what the findings are

Hybrid I saw in False River this weekend. Obviously not Migratory but still a Crazy looking duck!! Attachment 67206


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lol we killed 670 birds out of our camp last year, probably 70% being green wing teal, that's your standard greenwing all day long, just not in full plumage so the colors aren't completely developed, c'mon man.

i bet that is one of your parents to your hybrid!

looks like your every day park mutt to me

Haha freakin muscovy

That looks nothing like a green wing teal and was twice the size... If you kill that many you'd know yourself. Look at the confirmation I've received from a waterfowl expert and an international expert on Hybrids from Denmark.

C'mon Man.. what a fool

Shot the Hybrid in Oklahoma Man..

Yeah, I know but it was fun to get this thread going again! haha