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We also have stopped bringing hardheads into the boat. We just use pliers to dehook them directly over the side to minimize handling. We use one hand to hold the line, grasp hook in pliers and shake loose. Fish that swallow the hook get cut off and get to keep the hook. Gafftops, blues, and channels are welcome to come aboard, but they are much easier to handle and it takes a much bigger handling error to yield great pain. |
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Well...I think there's enough agreement that we need to know the biomass of speckled trout and the SPR indicator (although may not be the best statistic) for Big Lake. And I know that some of you are divided on supporting CCA and CCA's STAR.
And...I understand your opinions - and I pleasantly disagree. There can be no doubt, that CCA is heavily funded and is the most popular of all coastal conservation groups. As anglers, we're a house divided on some issues, but we can work harder to encourage CCA to assist us in first getting indicators on speckled trout populations in Calcasieu Lake. Once we have the data to see exactly where we are with regard to that, then data needs to be gathered to look at possible solutions to improving that population. Right now, LDWF hasn't released SPR and/or biomass indicators since 2011 due to litigation with BP. Therefore, I will say the following: In my six decades on this Earth, I have had differences with God, my wife, my children, my parents, my Church, my government, my friends, and many of my politicians. I did not let those deter me from joining them and resolving problems together. I hope to see my friends at the LC CCA banquet Thursday night who have shared their expertise and time to enjoy and share fishing experiences that have given me great joy and excitement at this stage in my life. My sincere thanks to all of you! |
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Well Said.. My sentiments exactly.... IF all the haters would Get off their Azz and Stop Bit_hin.. We MAYBE ABLE TO GET SOMETHING DONE.. Oysters, Channel, Weirs, Etc.. ALL ARE VALID CONCERNS.. BIT_H ing on SC doesn't accomplish anything... |
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But when a group manipulates that into meaning giving them money first as a prerequisite to working together, has a track record of not listening once the check is written, and has a track record of bringing bags of $$$$$$ back to Texas to support restoration projects there, I begin to think the group should show some better evidence of being willing to "work together" in ways more meaningful than using contributions to lobby in favor of bad policies. In the present case "working together" needs to mean CCA proving a commitment to scientific fisheries management before we give them any more money. Giving them more money now will only reinforce their bad behavior and subvert any hopes we may have of working together. |
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I spoke with David C (head of CCA)over an hour yesterday on the phone.
I told him my views, rants, problems and what is not getting done! Hopefully they make some moves but we shall see |
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well what was his response to your comments? And why doesn't everybody who is against what the CCA is doing and has done and go to the banquet tomorrow night and start asking everybody there questions and make it a point to notify everybody else the concerns about the lake.?? wouldnt that be better than complaining for months about it on the internet? |
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I thought your were not responding anymore
Now, I cannot speak for anyone else, and I am a CCA hater, but let me tell you what I and my friends did. We spent over $275,000.00 of personal money in the last two years doing things which CCA's refuses to do----protect recreational sportsmens rights. In the last three years, I have personally spent over 38 days in Washington D.C., 123 days in Baton Rouge, 29 days in Florida, 13 in Texas. My friends, have done the same. And not one time did I or anyone else ever ask you to give us a penny, nor did we make public our actions, unlike your little posses' love of fanfare. So while you were in your little reival in New Orleans, I was at a Washington D.C. adminstrative hearing trying to save the red snapper season, a hearing that CCA was invited to and failed to appear. A hearing where a federal judge call your group's omissions "suspect" and "contrary". Then you got on this site and denied that happen, until two days later when your group posted exactly what I said on its very own website. I have been able to meet with State Senators and Reps, as well as U.S. Congressmen. All these officals respect our little group and will return phone calls to us, unless we mention the "C"apitol "C"lowns "A"ssociation (their name, not mind). We have hired our own lobby group and have paid them over $67,000 over the last 12 months, again from our own money to support the rights CCA refuses to defend. Not one of us ever received a salary, nor have we asked for one, nor will we every ask for one. When CCA was in bed with the Louisiana Landowners Association and refused to involve itself with the public vs private waterways, despite its very own mission statement, our group donated over 33,000 acres of personal land across the country so the public could have a place to recreate. We did all this behind the scenes and without any fanfare. Even received a threat from you, which again fell on deaf ears. But we are tired of always getting negative reactions and setbacks because of your group, and that is why will be have our own tournament (2015), called the Galaxy (because Galaxies eats Stars). More details will soon follow, but here is a general overview: It will be free to fish; It will be 202 days; It will have over 2.5M in prizes, including one tagged fish worth 1M; there will be weekly giveways to all contestants with each week's prize being worth approx. $175-$250.00. The one and only stipulation of the Galaxy will be that you cannot be a registered member of CCA/STAR. Furthermore, if you registered with Galaxy and catch a STAR tagged fish, you win $50,000.00. CCA tags 50 fish, we will tag 100. A tagged fish will be worth $25,000.00, not the first one caught, but all of them. If you catch any tagged fish with a child (<15) in your group, you get an extra $5,000.00; if you catch a tagged fish with a wounded veteran in your group, you get an extra $2,500.00 extra and the veteran gets $2,500.00; any tagged redfish harvested with a bow will awarded an extra $10,000 over any above its tag value. Is this real--very! Will this hurt CCA--Yes! Is our goal to destroy CCA-Yes Why--We spend a whole bunch of money to support recreational fishermen to only be setback by the likes of CCA-Louisiana. What Next--Form a legitmate group of concern individuals, throughout the gulf coast who actually support the rights of ALL recreational fishermen, not a choosen few. get your facts straight before you accuse others of not doing anything. |
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The private vs public waterways dispute? fo real? We have millions of acres in Louisiana to fish, no need fishing on top of someone elses' private property. Yes, its private property. That was once land that is now water but the bottom is still owned by the original landowner. Navigable water does not = you have a right to fish/hunt there. This has already been decided by a judge. Its illegal, the landowner has every right to keep people off his property (yes you can own water in Louisiana) Do you really think you have a right to go and fish in someone's backyard if their home floods? Its navigable. Do you think that when the MS River floods you should be able to go and duck hunt in the flooded timber on someone else's property? this may need a thread on its own, even though its been beat to death Keep up the good fight with the other issues though, this one shouldn't be on the list though |
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In every post I've asked a SIMPLE QUESTION???WHAT LITTLE GROUP DO U REPRESENT??? 275 K of PERSONAL Money????? All U do is Hate on CCA.. Which Is fine.. That's is your right... Where are the Facts to BACK UP WHAT U SAY??? NO WHERE ON THIS SITE.. I'm saying Call for and organize a meeting with the Lake Chuck area elected officials.. Channel officials, Weir officials. CCA Officials, and Concerned SC Members as well as Guides.. Discuss the Concerns.. Work Together to DEVELOP Solution's... |
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CCA has proven in the past to be insensitive to our concerns, to use member's money to lobby for more restrictive regulations, lobby for increased license fees, and fund expensive restoration projects in Texas. Your logic is like passing a bill to see what's in it. CCA should prove their commitment to data driven conservation and proportional use of funds for projects in Louisiana before we give them more money. |
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I have many emails, letters and calls to everyone over the last 5 years I will keep me and Davids conversation private but he knows what we want and we want actions two years ago fast!! He also knows the value of us who are out here year around vs ones who are not. I don't need to pay $60 to go to a banquet full of people who are there for one reason only Free Beer (only reason I ever went) Now if they would let me speak I would be there in a heart beat but they don't want the public to know the real issues on hand |
"W"....I don't drink at these anymore.
But when I was your age, I must admit that I certainly did. But I also made some good deals on fishing tackle etc., and I was also there to sit with friends. Now in the old days there were speakers who were scientists, guides etc. |
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well why dont you go grab the mic and start talking about issues on hand until someone kicks you out? that will not only be great entertainment while i drink my beer, but also be very informative to the blind.. |
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But they's still have my $60 to use against Louisiana anglers and to restore oyster reefs in Texas. Notice CCA has largely chosen to disengage on public forums where there is a level playing field and they cannot exercise editorial control over opposing views. LA Sportsman and Salty Cajun have a much larger audience than will be in attendance at their $60 a head fund raiser. They want your money, not your views. |
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First, the Galaxy Tourney is real and has been in the works for over seven years. We have a ten year, five year, and three plan. Our three year business plans were alter greatly with BP Oil Spill.
Second, sorry, but I forgot to mention that guides will be allowed to fish. I also forgot to mention that if a tagged fish is caught while a "special needs" person is in your group, $5,000.00 will be added to your tagged value. Third, for those who suggest we speak as one, please note that we are actually trying to obtain one voice and that is the very purpose of the Galaxy. We will do way with the CCA of Louisiana as it is now, because it has no respect from public officials in Washington and Baton Rouge. Thus, once we take away any incentive to fish the STAR, the CCA falls or in other words, it is eaten by a Galaxy. Then a new group can become a legitimate voice for ALL recreational fishermen. This group, whoever wishes to be invovld wil be invited, membership will be free and open, no executive sessions will be had, updates will be emailed on a daily basis, no private meetings will be conducted, any positions within the membership will be fully voted on by all members and not one salary will ever be paid to its members. Just image what a force that group could be in state and federal decisions effecting peoples recreational rights. Finally, biggun. I have told you many times, I am not obligated to give you the names of anything, nor would I do so in that certain privileges would be violated. However, once the Galaxy is formed, everything will be open to public viewing in person, online or any other means available, and all prospective prize money will be placed in escrow for future payment of said prizes. Unlike CCA and its few fans, some people do not want to be recognized or named for what they do for the good of others. In fact, I had to go to great lengths just to be able to post what I posted earlier. |
Man I really applaud your actual doing something, but the Galaxy? kinda sounds like the STAR. How bout some originality? And why try and derail CCA and divide sportsmen, why not just do your own thing and leave CCA out of it, no need to knock them while you are trying to gain support. There is no need to base your entire organization on the bashing of another:) Good luck
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all these CCA boosters are flipping the same tired line "give us your money, then we can talk about your concerns" its all a con game and they run it very well because the average uninformed fisherman still thinks CCA is working FOR us instead of AGAINST us. the word is getting out and that is why they have guys on the payroll who come to these forums to defend them with lies and false promises trying to keep people from learning the true facts about what the CCA is really doing. CCA has its place in doing the things they are willing to do like reef building and planting grass but they need to just stop with all the lies about being on the side of fishermen because history has shown that is NOT the case. if you want reefs built and further unwarranted restrictions on your ability to catch fish then support CCA, if not then actively work to convince anyone who isn't aware of it, just how harmful to fishermens rights continuing to support CCA can be. so here it is CCA and its supporters, stop telling us you are on the side of fishermen while you are actively stripping away our rights without any science based reason to do so. no one believes the fat man eating a box of doughnuts while he is telling you that he is on a diet and likewise no one believes your just as obvious lies CCA |
IMO the organization needs to cease to exist and another take its place. The name Galaxy ehhh maybe not but thus far I like what this guy has to say. But ill wait till I see some action. Sounds very promising tho.
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I foresee Galaxy vs STAR commercial, should try and get George Lucas to direct it and find some hairy dude to pose as Chewbacca:rotfl:
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Stand out in the parking lot and pass out fliers with all the info on it. You know, kind of like a peaceful protest. I'll make sure I grab one from you and read it while I'm walking in with my free ticket and to drink my free beer. :grinpimp: |
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Oh and lmao, I'm sure Raymond has been ordered by his CCA higher authorities to quit posting on this site. Now that people want stickers, we haven't heard from him, not even on a dog training thread. |
Raymond like to hang with high society people, he enjoys what our Lake has to offer but no balls to stand up and defend it and make things happen... but sit tight
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I think that they should still do this. Let a few biologists, guides, crabbers speak. They should also talk about their agenda, what is on it, and where the money is being spent. |
Raymond last activity was 4-11-14 he has logged out!!
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