Shooot..dats cheap, when I say outrageous I mean like 1500$ a year to an out of state guide in LA....that'll make 'em tuck tail an roll back to Tehas


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LA Spotted Sea Trout stock assessment tax
Red Drum ********""
Black Drum********"
Flounder********""
Gaftop Tax
Flow Control Structure Tax(weirs)
Ship Channel erosion control tax
Reef Restoration Tax
List could go on an on forever...slap that on out of state guides.


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Exactly if you don't want Texas guides guiding on big lake charge them that's easy but your going to cut our fish because some people come guide

Freaken stupid

He'll half of big lake guides have been in Sabine last two months and that's a fact

I know of 10-12 guides that went to Sabine every day last month to guide

Why in the world are they basing wildlife/biology decisions in a reactionary manner? Who cares what TX does? If you're truly that worried about TX pressure, raise the price on TX natives getting a LA license x4.

I don't agree with lowering the redfish size either. If you want a 14 inch size limit, might as well make it no size limit.

I just hate what they are doing to fisherman who make a living on Big Lake. I don't even fish western LA but this still burns me up.

What a joke.

that's a good one!!! lmao

all seriousness though.. I agree with you man.. Doesn't make any sense and I completely agree on how they need to start worrying more about coastal erosion than any fish limits. It seems like fish are being caught all around the state right now, may be a little slow in big lake but I've been seeing many successful reports from the east side on lasmag

"Redfish-wise, Pausina said it’s possible that slightly reducing the legal size limit would not have a major impact on the fishery.
“It’s probably not that big of a deal because five fish are dying if everybody catches their creel, and whether they’re 14 inches or 16 inches they still haven’t reproduced yet because they haven’t moved offshore yet,” he said. “We’re culling them out before they move offshore to start reproducing, so it’s probably feasible with red drum"

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that makes no sense to me either... its a lot easier to find some 14" reds than 16" reds, so many more will be taken.. Sounds like someone is having trouble finding the 16"ers

All opposed to this need to be at that meeting! If they don't have an opposition at the meeting they will likely move to a vote. Speaking from experience.

Six months would be about 5k or so on i10 on the west side of the state. In Baton Rouge it's 20k or more.

That sucks, one of the best trout and red fisheries in the world. And all it takes is a couple of organization leaders that don't know **** to f___ ya'll lake up. Texas side of Sabine will be five trout in couple of years because of South Texas limits, which has already put more pressure on Sabine. Live in Orange county been buying LA license for ever to fish LA Sabine Jetties, beach, short rigs, and BL maybe couple times a year and have never had LFAW call and do surveys until this year. They ask for number of days fished and body of water nothing about what was caught on trips. They have also called couple other people I fish with, we didn't know what it was about until now.

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This is certainly one way to look at it and also the way I read it. Not even our own commissioners have seen the fisheries data since the BP oil spill. This info is so secretive and maybe now we can actually see some data. He is calling them out on that in my opinion. Lets see some data

The 14" redfish comment from the lady is just complete nonsense however:help:. No way can I read that comment and see anything that makes one lick of sense.

It's unbelievable that mentioning limit changes is even a conversation when WLF has seen zero data in the last several years. To further mention that it is a social issue rather than a biological one is even more of a joke.

Once again, this effort should be aimed at fixing our actual estuary, not trying to fix it by simply reducing limits. We have to start at the estuary itself, reducing limits will not fix the oyster, erosion, or wier problems.

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Except the trout limits!

This is correct. I contacted Will this morning. The LAS article is not accurate. He has no agenda to lower trout limits, he never said that. He is just trying to get the data that has been kept from us(that we need). The other things mentioned about fishing pressure and influx in guides from other areas are issues that have been voiced to him by the public. I think there is an thread on this forum talking about over fishing BL.

Yep:) People can spin a story so quick. He is even quoted in there saying why:

Interpreted biological data has barely trickled from the department since 2010 because of the state's ongoing litigation with BP after the Deepwater Horizon oil spill. State lawyers have clamped down on the flow of information for fear of weakening the state's case.

But Drost said he wants to know, among other things, where SPR stands today.

"I know that they'll give me the picture that I ask for as a commissioner," he said. "I want to know everything there is to know.

"I feel like it's our responsibility to properly manage the most important species in our state. I think we're currently managing it properly, but it's an ongoing job. It never ends."


I feel like this is a good thing. He wants to know, we want to know, lets see some data.

Y'all let me know when you headed down. This is in my backyard and I'll be there to support and voice my opinion. Anyone who knows me knows I fish Lake P. And Big Lake pretty evenly throughout the year.

A 33 inch max limit on reds would pretty much kill summertime surf fishing for a lot of folks.

sounds like drost has that same imaginary friend that harry reid and nancy pelosi have when they talk about lots of people support doing the stupid things they want to do to us.

maybe you guys in BL are just secretly supporting putting yourselves out of business and making fishing too restrictive for recreationals?

ya know political hacks would never lie :rolleyes: so check with your neighbors, some of em must be liberals :eek:

If they decide to implement that max limit on reds it will have an impact on nighttime surf fishing for anyone other than those who want to practice catch and release.

Just internal debate by some right now I understand. One thing that was pointed out to me was that this isn't a BL/Texas issue with pressure but also concerns have been mounting with respect to the Chandeleur Island chain. Mississippi which has a 15 per person trout limit and now the growing Mississippi and even Alabama headboat industry has been multiplying and inundating the Chandeleur Island Chain with pressure. The impact of BP spill's use of corexit in 2010, in conjunction with the significant land loss in the eastern part of Louisiana, harsh winter of 2013/14, and higher freshwater discharges from the Miss River pushing into areas with higher salinity levels (above the acceptable levels needed for trout eggs to hatch) are troubling some inside the WLF.

Now whether they keep it at 25 or lower it to 15 or even 10 I don't know but the government needs to make this information public so that we can see if we have a problem and to the extent its as bad as rumored it is just how bad it is. Otherwise the WLF will be doing a disservice to everyone because it will create a bigger issue the politicization of this issue which is not in anyone's best interest. If the SPR is actually down to 3 or 5 in areas then something needs to be done immediately to prevent a collapse of the fishery but if its in the 15-18 then there is no reason to change the limits IMO.

I know the oyster fisherman in Eastern La in the Hopedale/La Marsh/Barataria areas are replanting all of their oyster leases right now because the spat is completely dead from BP and they are praying the major money they are sinking into replanting will actually show results in 3-4 years.

*** I will starve. Unreasonable!

I'd laugh if i wasn't crying....sad but true