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Goooh 08-04-2014 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by specktator (Post 711576)
What recalls are you guys referring to? I have had 2 recalls on my new GMC. One was power sliding back glass and one was something with exhaust. Don't know what's such a big deal with that. Brought it into the dealership and they took care of it in a few hours. Love my truck. F-150 is a nice ride too. But after my 2012 F250 was in the shop FIVE times before I hit 50k miles, I traded that POS in on my GMC All Terrain. Had a 2009 Duramax that I put 100,000 miles on without one issue before I sold it. My dad has new GMC with about 60k miles and not one issue and I have about 20k miles on mine with no issues. Gets about 15-16 in town and 18-19 on hwy. Towing is night and day between it and the older GMs. Haters gonna hate.


Here is one.

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2014/03/...for-fire-risk/

Maybe your truck didn't fall under it, there are many more. It's been all over the news, they have come under some serious government scrutiny and had ax a bunch of high level employees to save face.

GM has had 60 recalls in 2014 for a total of 29 million vehicles. 13 deaths have been attributed to a measly little ignition recall.

keakar 08-04-2014 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 711511)
Chevy Canyon

And the total can still be had in small packages

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 711516)
^^and the *yota^^

the canyon doesn't come in regular cab and I am looking hard at the Tacoma which seams to be THE only option out there that doesn't offer worse gas mileage then my old truck.

new and improved with better technology is supposed to offer us better engines that get better gas mileage but its like a conspiracy that they (all manufacturers) wont design a new truck that gets over 16-18mpg.

the mini trucks used to be the best selling trucks on the market but people wanted them to be just a little bigger so the beds had more room the 3ft x 5ft yet they went way too far and started building full sized trucks not even offering the mini trucks any more.

if I park my '98 Silverado next to a '14 Tacoma, other then body style there isn't more then 6" difference in size while the tundra would make my Silverado look like a mid sized truck


so, to the auto manufacturers out there: I ONLY WANT TO BUY A FULL SIZED 30MPG TRUCK SO MAKE THE DARN THING ALREADY


I think they don't make them because they falsely believe all we want to buy is big oversized monster trucks that can haul as much weight as an 18 wheeler and while there certainly is a very popular market for that, they need to offer a better fuel economy mid sized truck as an alternative to it.

mriguy 08-04-2014 01:50 PM

2015 Ford F150 with the new 2.7 Ecoboost might hit 30mpg highway

Goooh 08-04-2014 02:47 PM

I have a 5.7 liter pushing the 400hp envelope, 4x4 crew can and get over 20 mpg between 75 and 80mph.

I don't see the conspiracy, it's pretty impressive if you ask me.

The technology to give you 40mpg AND not be an absolute turd would be so expensive right now that you would cry conspiracy for price gouging.

Em591991 08-04-2014 03:50 PM

In reverse

keakar 08-04-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 711696)
I have a 5.7 liter pushing the 400hp envelope, 4x4 crew can and get over 20 mpg between 75 and 80mph.

I don't see the conspiracy, it's pretty impressive if you ask me.

The technology to give you 40mpg AND not be an absolute turd would be so expensive right now that you would cry conspiracy for price gouging.

what year and model?

my '98 Silverado 5.7 does the same mileage

Goooh 08-04-2014 06:48 PM

2015 gmc sierra & chevys
 
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Originally Posted by keakar (Post 711744)
what year and model?

my '98 Silverado 5.7 does the same mileage


I'm going to have to call you on that, unless you have a single cab 2wd with a manual transmission. Even then highway mileage was rated at 18mpg for a z71, and we know that's going slow and in a controlled environment the EPA. Plus, that engine maybe had 250hp...

2013 Ram

all star rod 08-04-2014 07:02 PM

Ford or Toyota....All the rest JUNK..

neverenuf 08-04-2014 07:04 PM

I just sold my tundra rock warrior edition because the mileage was horrible. Who thinks 13 is good? Seriously? 14.5 on the interstate at 75. Nice truck and plenty of power but the mileage is laughable. My wife's '09 Tahoe 4x4 gets 20-21 on the interstate and 17-18 in town. Sticking with duramax from now on.

lil bubba 08-04-2014 07:07 PM

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2013 4x4 5.3 ,,,, 65-70mph ,,,19-21mpg. pulling 1200# boat 60mph. 16-18 mpg.....40# air in 33" goodyear silent armor . 4x4 in mud ,,,,,well you got to pay to play......wouldn't trade it for anything...you want better mileage buy a small car with a 4 cyl.....My wifes equinox with a 4 cyl. gets 34-37 at 70mph.......I don't think it will tow my boat to good though..............

Clampy 08-04-2014 07:09 PM

My ecoboost gets close to 45mpg hwy and runs 11.22@113mph

keakar 08-04-2014 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 711746)
I'm going to have to call you on that, unless you have a single cab 2wd with a manual transmission. Even then highway mileage was rated at 18mpg for a z71, and we know that's going slow and in a controlled environment the EPA. Plus, that engine maybe had 250hp...

2013 Ram

call all you want and lets put your paycheck on it too, anytime anywhere

1998 chevy 1500 Silverado 2wd short wheel base fully loaded with power everything and small block 350 5.7 with EFI and towing package, doesn't smoke and gets the same mileage as new.

if you try to look it up today, most websites says it got 14 city and 18 hwy but they must be based on using using different gearing because I am the original owner of the truck and as sold the mileage sticker was 19 city and 21 hwy and that's still what I get today (+/- 1mpg) with 120,000 miles on it. I get 18 and 21 puling a 17x 52 flatboat around (+/- 1mpg).

the only bad thing is the transmission blew up at 100,000 miles as they always do (that's a $2,800 rebuild) and I just had to replace those stupid plastic intake manifold gaskets they used that always start to leak after 90,000-100,000 miles so that's another $1,000 repair.

I use the trip meter all the time and check mpg at every fill up so I know if something is wrong. the k & n air filter replacement did bump it up to 19/21 from 18/20 I was getting with the original stock paper style filter so if I had done that from new I might have gotten better then 19/21 when it was new. having a better air filter does make a difference.

Tjethro85 08-04-2014 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by neverenuf (Post 711749)
I just sold my tundra rock warrior edition because the mileage was horrible. Who thinks 13 is good? Seriously? 14.5 on the interstate at 75. Nice truck and plenty of power but the mileage is laughable. My wife's '09 Tahoe 4x4 gets 20-21 on the interstate and 17-18 in town. Sticking with duramax from now on.

Attaboy

Tjethro85 08-04-2014 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Clampy (Post 711755)
My ecoboost gets close to 45mpg hwy and runs 11.22@113mph

Lol Just like all the other ecoboost owners...does it leap tall buildings in a single bound too? The new one does!!

all star rod 08-04-2014 07:24 PM

Lil bubba I had the same Chevy 4x4 as you and I never got 19-21...mine was more like 17 gpm max doing 70mpg.

Clampy 08-04-2014 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tjethro85 (Post 711759)
Lol Just like all the other ecoboost owners...does it leap tall buildings in a single bound too? The new one does!!

I did it once but blew a tire so I stopped.

I love my truck. 4x4
70k on it 305/55 tires
low 15 to high 15mpg in town depending how crazy I get.
18.5 staying under 75
11-12 towing at 70
13.5 at 60


Nothing crazy just a good solid truck.

all star rod 08-04-2014 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Clampy (Post 711755)
My ecoboost gets close to 45mpg hwy and runs 11.22@113mph

I have the 3.5L ECO 4X4 crew cab and I averaged 16 mpg. However once I hit around 20K mileage it has increased to 18.5mpg now.
Pulling my 22' bay boat at 65-70mph I get 13 mpg. I really like that engine and will definitely get another one.

However, due to my job I really do not pay for gas so I could care less what my fuel economy is...

Tjethro85 08-04-2014 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Clampy (Post 711763)
I did it once but blew a tire so I stopped.

I love my truck. 4x4
70k on it 305/55 tires
low 15 to high 15mpg in town depending how crazy I get.
18.5 staying under 75
11-12 towing at 70
13.5 at 60


Nothing crazy just a good solid truck.

Agreed. Nice to see someone who's realistic about the ecoboost. Some people you talk to would swear it's a 10 second truck.

lil bubba 08-04-2014 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 711762)
Lil bubba I had the same Chevy 4x4 as you and I never got 19-21...mine was more like 17 gpm max doing 70mpg.

Rear end gears may have been different and when i had the eagle tires mileage was lower and i run 40# cold now. I thought i would trip my tire sensors but those silent armors don't heat up like most tires. Highest they been was 42#. Cruise control makes a world of difference also......

Clampy 08-04-2014 07:34 PM

I ain't saying it don't run.
I haven't put it on a track but I would not be surprised to see high 13s
The torque curve is great.
420ft/lbs 1700-2800 rpms.
Those numbers are close not exact.
I've messed around with plenty other half tons red light to red light.
Burnt most of them. Tundra right there sometimes ahead.
Haven't tested the newest chevy/gmc yet.

jrdntboy09 08-04-2014 07:34 PM

2014 gmc sierra 5.3 v8 4x4 4 door. I get 21 to 22 hwy and 16 to 18 in town. Pulling haynie 24ho I get 12 to 13

keakar 08-04-2014 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 711762)
Lil bubba I had the same Chevy 4x4 as you and I never got 19-21...mine was more like 17 gpm max doing 70mpg.

well if his 4 wheel drive was a 2 wheel drive like I said mine was then he would have gotten 19/21

no 4 x 4 will get the same mileage as a 2 wheel drive

T-TOP 08-04-2014 07:40 PM

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15mpg, best I've got is 17mpg. Sucks but I knew it going in, has plenty of towing though. The wife's 6.2 is bad a$$ though!!!

T-TOP 08-04-2014 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by keakar (Post 711769)
well if his 4 wheel drive was a 2 wheel drive like I said mine was then he would have gotten 19/21

no 4 x 4 will get the same mileage as a 2 wheel drive


Had a truck like yours, numbers sound good to me. Some of those motors were on time. Hell I had a 97 2-door Yukon 4x4 with 35" ATs that got 17-19 back in the day. Regret trading that ride in, it was sweet!

keakar 08-04-2014 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by T-TOP (Post 711773)
Had a truck like yours, numbers sound good to me. Some of those motors were on time. Hell I had a 97 2-door Yukon 4x4 with 35" ATs that got 17-19 back in the day. Regret trading that ride in, it was sweet!

ya, I thought about trading it in several times but what stopped me was the gas mileage. it just seamed to me as stupid to trade it in to buy something newer with a smaller engine in it that would get worse gas mileage, regardless of the new tech to increase hp from it.

im always on the road making a few 150 mile trips a week so mileage is a HUGE deal for me

lil bubba 08-04-2014 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by keakar (Post 711769)
well if his 4 wheel drive was a 2 wheel drive like I said mine was then he would have gotten 19/21

no 4 x 4 will get the same mileage as a 2 wheel drive

That 4x4 sticker on the bed aint there for show. What i stated is what i get . Your opinion is your opinion. Different gear ratio's and different tires with different pressures means different mileage. Maybe in 2050 they will make you a 30 mpg. truck.

keakar 08-04-2014 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lil bubba (Post 711784)
That 4x4 sticker on the bed aint there for show. What i stated is what i get . Your opinion is your opinion. Different gear ratio's and different tires with different pressures means different mileage. Maybe in 2050 they will make you a 30 mpg. truck.

you are right, gearing and tire sizes are a HUGE part of gas mileage which is why 4wd won't get the same mileage as a 2wd version can, because gearing and tire sizes are different along with other things like weight and drive train drag.

lil bubba 08-04-2014 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by T-TOP (Post 711770)
Attachment 72568
15mpg, best I've got is 17mpg. Sucks but I knew it going in, has plenty of towing though. The wife's 6.2 is bad a$$ though!!!

Nice looking truck. Do you have a level or lift on it ? That will hurt mileage also.

meaux fishing 08-04-2014 08:21 PM

the new dodge eco diesel gets really good mpg. people averaging 23-25

fishfighter 08-04-2014 08:25 PM

Lol
 
You guys arguing


My truck is better than yours

My girl is hotter than yours

My ---- is bigger than yours

I catch more fish than you

Lol you guys are funny

lil bubba 08-04-2014 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fishfighter (Post 711792)
You guys arguing


My truck is better than yours

My girl is hotter than yours

My ---- is bigger than yours

I catch more fish than you

Lol you guys are funny

we just bored........ha ha ha ha ha.......

Clampy 08-04-2014 08:31 PM

Pretty sure my dad can beat up your dad

keakar 08-04-2014 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lil bubba (Post 711793)
we just bored........ha ha ha ha ha.......

well bubba you got me curious so I went look it up and according the chevy with the 5.3 ecoboost engine in a 4wd you should be getting 16 city and 22 highway which is very nice mileage for a 4wd

http://www.chevrolet.com/silverado-1...owertrain.html

the 2wd version gets 16/23 which is still a step backwards from my 19/21 in my opinion but since I expect you would average get somewhere in the middle of that its close but I don't understand why there is a 6-7mpg difference in city vs hwy so I suspect the rated hwy mileages are done in a sealed vacuum chamber and pure fantasy to be THAT different

T-TOP 08-04-2014 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lil bubba (Post 711789)
Nice looking truck. Do you have a level or lift on it ? That will hurt mileage also.


6" lift. It rides better than the duramax I traded in on it though.

Wide Open 08-04-2014 08:54 PM

My paw had a 95 Z71 flare side with 350 (not the vortec) 3.73 reared! The stock tires were Goodyear a/t's I believe 32/11.50/16's
@ 70 mph the the rpm's were rite @ 1700-1800 and we did 21 mpg's on the highway to the deer lease every weekend! The motor gave out @ 175,000k but the tranny was original!
We still joke today that the 4x4 had less than a mile on it when he sold it! Man he treated that thing like a powder puff! Lol

fishfighter 08-04-2014 08:55 PM

Lol
 
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Originally Posted by Clampy (Post 711794)
Pretty sure my dad can beat up your dad


Ha i forgot that one lol

flounder_smacker 08-04-2014 09:15 PM

performance wise all brands have trucks to compete with each other. what nobody has mentioned is how ugly that new tundra is. ford not to far behind it with that nasty tailgate. chevy and gmc have the best looking trucks on the road right now. dodge...... do people still buy dodges?

bjhooper82 08-04-2014 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by flounder_smacker (Post 711815)
performance wise all brands have trucks to compete with each other. what nobody has mentioned is how ugly that new tundra is. ford not to far behind it with that nasty tailgate. chevy and gmc have the best looking trucks on the road right now. dodge...... do people still buy dodges?

I agree 100%. Those tundras are ugly!

noodle creek 08-04-2014 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by flounder_smacker (Post 711815)
performance wise all brands have trucks to compete with each other. what nobody has mentioned is how ugly that new tundra is. ford not to far behind it with that nasty tailgate. chevy and gmc have the best looking trucks on the road right now. dodge...... do people still buy dodges?

You get what you pay for. Dodge makes a good diesel, that's about it. Interior quality is **** and falls apart at 100k miles. Chevy is a little better than dodge, half ton gas wise, but their quality is lacking compared to Ford and Toyota as well. Ford has the best looking truck IMO, Chevy has a decent looking truck finally, and the Tundra's are growing on me. Chevy engineers always have been and always will be a step behind Ford. Ford F150's haven't been number 1 selling truck for, what is it now, like 34 consecutive years for no reason. Chevy's and Dodges are cheaper for the most part, but Ford is still selling more trucks. Oh, and they didn't need a bailout.

Will never in my life own a Chevy/GM or a Dodge.

noodle creek 08-04-2014 09:46 PM

Oh, and the front ends on the new Suburbans and Tahoes are about the ugliest thing I've ever seen.

Montauk17 08-04-2014 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by noodle creek (Post 711825)
Oh, and the front ends on the new Suburbans and Tahoes are about the ugliest thing I've ever seen.

Agreed....they also screwed up big time by putting the fugly steps on the rear bumper of the silverado.

fishfighter 08-04-2014 10:19 PM

Haha
 
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Originally Posted by Montauk17 (Post 711826)
Agreed....they also screwed up big time by putting the fugly steps on the rear bumper of the silverado.


Dude that two inches helps when climbing on the bumper

Tjethro85 08-05-2014 05:00 AM

[QUOTE=noodle creek;711818] Chevy's and Dodges are cheaper for the most part, but Ford is still selling more trucks. Oh, and they didn't need a bailout.

Better go do some research, Ford took a government loan too. They didn't take as much but they did take it. 9 billion and haven't paid it back.

Tjethro85 08-05-2014 05:04 AM

Also, up until about ten years ago, ford had the crappiest interior.

Clampy 08-05-2014 06:25 AM

5.9 billion. They asked for it to retool manufacturing plants so they can keep up with the company that just got 80 billion in bail outs.

Clampy 08-05-2014 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tjethro85 (Post 711842)
Also, up until about ten years ago, ford had the crappiest interior.

Chevy Love interior was hands down the worst. Hey we all make mistakes.

flounder_smacker 08-05-2014 07:46 AM

Chevy and gmc mechanicaly are the same vehicle. Ford f150 dosent come close to the combined sales. And ford always claims their F series is the best selling vehicles in america well I guess so the f series consist of about 20 models.

jpeff31787 08-05-2014 08:06 AM

I just bought an ecoboost and my brother bought a 2014 chevy.

gas mileage is very close to each other,

ecoboost definitely pulls more flawlessly without all the down shifting

chevy has quieter ride, and probably a little smoother

ecoboost has way more pep

ford seems to sit a little higher which I like

I do like the chevy's layout of all the gadgets better though

Both pretty good trucks, I'd say. All comes down to personal preference, and if I was forced to choose another truck it would be either a f150 or the new gmc actually. I think the body style on the gmc is pretty sweet.

speck cc 08-05-2014 08:18 AM

just to compare...

2014 tundra 2x4 5.7 SR5
16.5mpg per tank average (1/2 hwy, 1/2 stop and go)
16mpg towing my 16ft cc at 60mph

all trucks (real world) mpg are much closer that everyone says... take that how you want it, just speaking from personal experience

Duffy.yyz 08-05-2014 08:20 AM

FORD
 
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All the way. I don't think they make a bad truck these days to be honest...But i was born and raised on Ford and this is my third.


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