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Dogface 04-08-2015 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by marty f (Post 748075)
Im about as hard core conservative as you can get..... really

But you don't shoot someone in the back with out just cause

You are right. Like you, I have a lot of training and tactical classes and one of the first things they teach is there is no defense for shooting someone in the back. For a "legal" shooting you must be in a situation that you fear for your life or that you may suffer "great bodily harm". That's not going to happen if they are running away. In my opinion this LEO has no defense and will be found guilty.

marty f 04-08-2015 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt G (Post 748119)
:confused::confused::confused:

Whipping donuts.... Cutting ruts.... Mud riding.... What do y'all call it up north?


just trying to lighten the thread..........donuts, cops.............


Like Id ever drink strawberry coolers...........:shaking:

southern151 04-08-2015 05:05 PM

He shouldn't have run from the cop. I think we all agree on that.

From what I can see in the video, the cop has zero probable cause to discharge a weapon on this man. The cop never even attempted to chase this man, which even though he was running for his life, wasn't very fast. Toward the end of the scene, before he cuffed the dead guy, he tosses something on the ground that is believed to be his taser. I'm pretty sure this cop knew he was in the wrong immediately but, didn't realize he was being filmed. He's headed to prison for a long time, IMO.

In other news, that town will likely burn tonight when the sun goes down!

Matt G 04-08-2015 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by marty f (Post 748134)
just trying to lighten the thread..........donuts, cops.............


Like Id ever drink strawberry coolers...........:shaking:

Gotcha! Well played!!

I think we've all had our share of cheap liquor!

Smalls 04-08-2015 05:35 PM

Scott shouldn't have run, but Slager shouldn't have shot him in the back either. Bad moves all around, and now one is dead, and the other is likely going to prison, where he may end up dead.

Can't believe some people actually believe its right to shoot someone in the back. Bet y'all wouldn't feel the same if that was your family. Guy could have shot him in the leg, or something, to stop him. And 8 shots is unnecessary. He was shooting to kill. He deserves to rot in a jail.

This guy gives the cops that try to do the right thing a bad name.

eman 04-08-2015 06:02 PM

The guy was running because he had a warrant for back child support.
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"W" 04-08-2015 06:23 PM

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Mako19 04-08-2015 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 748149)
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Those are the racist I mentioned in the original post of this thread.

Mako19 04-08-2015 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by eman (Post 748147)
The guy was running because he had a warrant for back child support.
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Not exactly a violent crime.

swampman46 04-08-2015 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickt87 (Post 748116)
How do you know he didn't tell the officer "I'm about to run back to my car and get my gun"?

Yeah, that's probably it. :shaking:

Nickt87 04-08-2015 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by swampman46 (Post 748161)
Yeah, that's probably it. :shaking:

Where you think he was headin? To the local community center to volunteer and help disabled citizens? Maybe heading to te police station to turn himself in? In all reality he was probably swiftly enroute to the bank to pay his back logged child support!

Worst part out of this whole deal is now there are another 2-10 fatherless African American kids on the streets.

marty f 04-08-2015 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 748145)
Guy could have shot him in the leg, or something, to stop him. And 8 shots is unnecessary. He was shooting to kill. He deserves to rot in a jail.

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Any type of LEO are not trained to shot in the leg, they are trained to stop a threat of eminent danger to life when using that level of force. When the situation is elevated to that level all you have is your repetition of training to rely on to stop the threat, that being said its center mass.

Andy C 04-08-2015 08:54 PM

Never good or right to shoot someone in the back!!! Let's get all the facts before we hang this man!!!! One video to the media never shows the hole truth!!
Again it looks essave but maybe cop know what he was planning to do if he got away! Maybe the cop over reacted!! But let's at see/here the facts before we judge his actions right or wrong !

Top Dawg 04-08-2015 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickt87 (Post 748179)
Where you think he was headin? To the local community center to volunteer and help disabled citizens? Maybe heading to te police station to turn himself in? In all reality he was probably swiftly enroute to the bank to pay his back logged child support!

Worst part out of this whole deal is now there are another 2-10 fatherless African American kids on the streets.

From the back child support records they were already fatherless.

Andy C 04-08-2015 09:05 PM

And this probably would not even be a topic if it was a black cop that shoot a white kid!! That's what's sad!! It's all black or white!! And in this day and time it's truly sad!!!

Top Dawg 04-08-2015 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy C (Post 748186)
And this probably would not even be a topic if it was a black cop that shoot a white kid!! That's what's sad!! It's all black or white!! And in this day and time it's truly sad!!!

Duh

marty f 04-08-2015 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy C (Post 748186)
And this probably would not even be a topic if it was a black cop that shoot a white kid!! That's what's sad!! It's all black or white!! And in this day and time it's truly sad!!!


google Marley Lion.............. bet you never heard of this one

Nickt87 04-08-2015 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 748185)
From the back child support records they were already fatherless.

So it seems. And now since he isnt there to rack up backed up child support his baby momma is coming straight to the government to take more of my money. Again we digress.

Andy C 04-08-2015 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by marty f (Post 748192)
google Marley Lion.............. bet you never heard of this one

May point proven, it sucks it's the way it is but sometimes you a decision! Right or wrong! But you can't do it over unfortunately

Pat Babaz 04-08-2015 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 748185)
From the back child support records they were already fatherless.

That's what I find most ironic. I hate to say this, but this is probably the best thing that could happen to this guy's 4 kids, he never gave them a nickel in child support but I'm sure they are fixing to get paid millions now from the lawsuit and be set for life!! From the video it does look like he was murdered unless there are a lot of facts we don't know about yet. Most police are good people doing a hard thankless job, but there are a few bad apples in every bunch. This officer sure looks like he did wrong. I feel like this incident is WAY DIFFERENT than the Travyon, Micheal Brown and "can't breathe guy" situations.

Mako19 04-08-2015 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy C (Post 748184)
Never good or right to shoot someone in the back!!! Let's get all the facts before we hang this man!!!! One video to the media never shows the hole truth!!
Again it looks essave but maybe cop know what he was planning to do if he got away! Maybe the cop over reacted!! But let's at see/here the facts before we judge his actions right or wrong !

I am curious....please list a few realistic facts that could possibily be uncovered during the investigation that would make what you saw in that video legal.

Real facts that are not as far fetched as some of the "what ifs" that people were talking about earlier in the thread.

List one fact that could be uncovered that would make you say yea, the cop was right, he was right when he pumped 8 rounds into an unarmed man's back while was 20 feet away running in the opposite direction.

Not being sarcastic I am looking forward to an answer.

Andy C 04-08-2015 10:18 PM

I spend 3 year's in court and a ton of money!! Cause cought the kids steeling my saddles, was hog hunting with a night scoop when seen them walking across the paster loaded up with a saddle apice and tack hanging all over them.shot twice towards them in the dirt, told them not to move!! They didn't lessen so shot the saddles out of there hands and told them to stop again. Still running so put some fire in front of them to slow them down till the cops could get there, and they sued me cause he broke his ankle in a crack in the ground of my property!! He's still out even after being sentenced to4 year's in tdoj???? But bet he never steps foot on my property again...
If more people were like that the thugs, white or black would quit this stilling crap!!! It cops took my rifel and was in and out of court for3 year's but got it back, (had two more just like it) and finely cleared of all charges ,after they plea qulity . And they still out there.

Andy C 04-08-2015 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako19 (Post 748206)
I am curious....please list a few realistic facts that could possibily be uncovered during the investigation that would make what you saw in that video legal.

Real facts that are not as far fetched as some of the "what ifs" that people were talking about earlier in the thread.

List one fact that could be uncovered that would make you say yea, the cop was right, he was right when he pumped 8 rounds into an unarmed man's back while was 20 feet away running in the opposite direction.

Not being sarcastic I am looking forward to an answer.

Never said it was right or just. Just saying let's learn all the facts before we hang anyone. Not just one cell video sent to the "media"!!

Mako19 04-08-2015 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy C (Post 748208)
Never said it was right or just. Just saying let's learn all the facts before we hang anyone. Not just one cell video sent to the "media"!!

And I am saying that video shows enough, IN MY OPINION, that no matter what evidence is uncovered it will change what the video shows: an officer of the law play God and murder a suspect in cold blood.

There is NO evidence or facts that we can learn that change the fact that this POS shot an unarmed man 8 times in the back while he was running away.

Even though that cowardly cop doesn't deserve it, he will not "be hanged before all of the facts are out." He will get his chance to defend himself in front of a just of his peers just like the law states.

The ironic thing is that even though the cop is going to get that right to a fair trial and jury he decided that the suspect did not deserve that same right and made the decision to judge, convict, and punish him (by death) in the amount of time it took him to draw and fire his weapon.

So the murderous cop will get a fair trial while he is shown on a video taking that same right away from another citizen.

Andy C 04-08-2015 11:01 PM

Your going off one video, witch looks really bad!! nothing that lead up to it!! If he was in the wrong hang him,! Have no problem with that. But let's get all the facts first.

swampman46 04-09-2015 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy C (Post 748214)
Your going off one video, witch looks really bad!! nothing that lead up to it!! If he was in the wrong hang him,! Have no problem with that. But let's get all the facts first.

You're just not getting it. Tell us what would be needed in another video that would make this justifyable. Still waiting....

marty f 04-09-2015 08:06 AM

I wonder how much $$$$ Feidin Santana (person who shot video) will receive from the impending lawsuit the family has already planned.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...08_308x408.jpg

redchaserron 04-09-2015 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt G (Post 748115)
Then W calls anyone who thinks it an absurd idea that a cop has the right to execute people for running from a cop (a misdemeanor offence RS 14:108.1), a liberal.......... So you think one low level government employee should have that much power? That's mighty liberal of you. Conservatives believe in small limited government with checks and balances, but to H E L L with facts, right? Another liberal trait I may add.

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This. As a conservative; a real, small government- follow the constitution conservative, I have to scratch my head when I see or hear people who fancy themselves conservative promoting a police state, advocating for the militarization of police and wanting to forego due process as guaranteed by the constitution.

The guy was stupid for running, the cop is a murderer for shooting him in the back.

Clampy 04-09-2015 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mako19 (Post 748211)
And I am saying that video shows enough, IN MY OPINION, that no matter what evidence is uncovered it will change what the video shows: an officer of the law play God and murder a suspect in cold blood.

There is NO evidence or facts that we can learn that change the fact that this POS shot an unarmed man 8 times in the back while he was running away.

Even though that cowardly cop doesn't deserve it, he will not "be hanged before all of the facts are out." He will get his chance to defend himself in front of a just of his peers just like the law states.

The ironic thing is that even though the cop is going to get that right to a fair trial and jury he decided that the suspect did not deserve that same right and made the decision to judge, convict, and punish him (by death) in the amount of time it took him to draw and fire his weapon.

So the murderous cop will get a fair trial while he is shown on a video taking that same right away from another citizen.

He shot the saddle out of his hands.
Watch out now we got John Wayne on SC

Clampy 04-09-2015 09:54 AM

Cops are people.
A lot of people are $hit heads and some of those slip through the cracks and become cops.
What sucks is the fact that most cops feel like they have to stick up for the bad ones b/c of some BS code.

Mako19 04-09-2015 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Clampy (Post 748253)
He shot the saddle out of his hands.
Watch out now we got John Wayne on SC

Haha!
Now poor dude has some saddles with holes all over them!

simplepeddler 04-09-2015 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Nickt87 (Post 748179)
Where you think he was headin? To the local community center to volunteer and help disabled citizens? Maybe heading to te police station to turn himself in? In all reality he was probably swiftly enroute to the bank to pay his back logged child support!

Worst part out of this whole deal is now there are another 2-10 fatherless African American kids on the streets.

Not paying child support means they were fatherless anyway

simplepeddler 04-09-2015 10:51 AM

just a lazy attempt by the cop...........he never once took a running step towards the guy........

in a vacuum I can agree with just about every point...but life does not place in a vacuum.....the laws are written mostly around what is and not what if's...........based on the what is, this cop is toast.

we can what if it all day long and make many many assertations to support our views on this.

He has been charged, will likely be convicted and the family will sue regardless of the outcome.

noodle creek 04-09-2015 11:00 AM

Just watched video, no way in hell he should have shot the guy. The guy running has about a 10 second 40 time, that cop could have easily run him down. No way was that shooting justifiable.

That being said, in other situations such as car chases etc., I would 100% support the criminal being killed before they harm someone innocent. In this situation, the guy was going nowhere fast, and the cop had his identity. Not to mention there was another cop right there close by.

Clampy 04-09-2015 11:13 AM

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Mako19 04-09-2015 11:50 AM

Yea, the whole department should go down for thiS.

They had the cop as being innocent until the video surfaced.

swampman46 04-09-2015 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako19 (Post 748289)
Yea, the whole department should go down for thiS.

They had the cop as being innocent until the video surfaced.

Wait...this is far from over. Other heads will roll.

biggun 04-09-2015 07:41 PM

Guys.. I'm a former Game Warden... All my LET, taught me THERE IS NO JUSTIFIABLE REASON TO SHOT any fleeing unarmed person.. Period..

Game wardens HAVE by far the most latitude when it comes to probable cause, vehicle stops, and search..

Officer is going to spend A LONG time with Big Bubba. His children will also be without a father.

Andy C 04-09-2015 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako19 (Post 748257)
Haha!
Now poor dude has some saddles with holes all over them!

Yes I did !! When i get home I will post picture.. !!!

Andy C 04-09-2015 11:05 PM

There the one thing that saved me on there law suite!!

Top Dawg 04-12-2015 07:45 PM

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...h-taser-darts/

Bluechip 04-12-2015 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 748837)

Interesting.....

jbert22 04-13-2015 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 748837)

Thanks for that info. Don't let one cell phone video convince you that this officer is in the wrong. Im not saying he is innocent or guilty but know the facts before gettin all worked up. I have never seen the U.S.A. so race divided until these last few years, have you??? and its gettin old.

Goooh 04-13-2015 06:39 AM

Never seen it so race divided? Where have you been?

How can anyone be allowed to shoot a citizen in the back?

rustyb 04-13-2015 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 748881)
Never seen it so race divided? Where have you been?

How can anyone be allowed to shoot a citizen in the back?

X2

Top Dawg 04-13-2015 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 748881)
Never seen it so race divided? Where have you been?

How can anyone be allowed to shoot a citizen in the back?

Just curious. I don't think it was right either. More facts will come out. But would u say if the officer was shot with his pistol instead of the taser before the criminal fled, would the shooting be justified then?

Goooh 04-13-2015 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 748893)
Just curious. I don't think it was right either. More facts will come out. But would u say if the officer was shot with his pistol instead of the taser before the criminal fled, would the shooting be justified then?


That many times in the back? Not in my opinion. The guy was unarmed and wasn't on his way to a mass murder, maybe he was getting away from a cop that probably gave him an indication of a threat (not sure why, cops are all so level headed and honest).

There are too many variables in that hypothetical, the focus should be on the actual scenario.

The only reason you shoot someone, unarmed, in the back that many times is out of aggravation and being pissed off. Dude was running no more than a regular person's brisk walk. Call back up and search for him, and give the man a trial - he is still a person and still a citizen of the U.S.

Liberty and justice for all, and if this is justifiable then I am ashamed of our country.

Top Dawg 04-13-2015 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 748900)
That many times in the back? Not in my opinion. The guy was unarmed and wasn't on his way to a mass murder, maybe he was getting away from a cop that probably gave him an indication of a threat (not sure why, cops are all so level headed and honest).

There are too many variables in that hypothetical, the focus should be on the actual scenario.

The only reason you shoot someone, unarmed, in the back that many times is out of aggravation and being pissed off. Dude was running no more than a regular person's brisk walk. Call back up and search for him, and give the man a trial - he is still a person and still a citizen of the U.S.

Liberty and justice for all, and if this is justifiable then I am ashamed of our country.


I agree. That was excessive.


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PEACEKEEPER 04-13-2015 09:43 AM

Firstly i would like to apologize to society for this very avoidable incident! I feel obligated to say that to each of you b/c i do this job! I represent this job! I took the burden doing this job not because i got to hurt anyone or got the chance to shoot somebody! I took this job for the right reasons! To help and defend the innocent! Do not let this incident ruin your perspective of what i am here for. I am sure if mr. Scott was alive today he would love to change his mind and not fled. Still without judgement, from what has been seen so far mr. Scott should have not been shot! I could sit here and type a tyrad about what i think is wrong with society. B/c i think society is responsible for alot of actions of citizens and leo. One thing is there is "no limits" some people will go to nowdays to steal, rob, kill, etc. To those who support us please continue to pray for us everyday. For those who have a dislike for us, pray for us too so i will make the right decisions in a milli-second. Because i stepped forward to do the job you could not do! I joke sometimes when people aske me how my days going by saying, "if it's good for me, then it's bad for someone else." some say i have a hard job i respond jokingly by saying, "yep, in all my years i have not had one person call me and ask to come by their house because they where having a good day".

marty f 04-13-2015 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PEACEKEEPER (Post 748905)
Because i stepped forward to do the job you could not do! .

WOW................... easy there big fella :shaking:


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