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O yes. I want to get some!
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Micah is selling his 22 Triton for a good deal
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I own a Blazer Bay. If I was to buy a new boat tomorrow it would between a 24' Bluewave Pure bay, a 22' Blackjack or another Blazer. (I think the Bluewave is the best value in a 24' boat.) My son own's a 22' Nauticstar and it's laid out well however I don't find it rides as well as my Blazer nor is it as solidly built. (My Blazer is a TANK but still rides very dry and fast) His boat beats the crap out of me in rough water and is a very wet ride. I also like the Frontier but want a bigger boat for my next one. If I was looking for a entry level bay boat it would high on my list but would loose out to a higher quality used boat like a Triton etc. Whatever you do stay away from Aluminum bay boats. Aluminum boats have their place and Bay boat's are not it.
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Been looking pretty hard at all the different boats. Blue wave has been having some electrical and quality control issues. When I started out skeeter was not on my list but after riding and fishing out of one was pretty impressed. The frontier is nice but Alphaman is correct that step up on the front deck is pretty big if you have bad knees.
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I'm going to get a fish box made just identical to the black jack
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I would jump on a 24' frontier in a heartbeat.
I do like Bluewave boats, but sounds like QC has been a real issue. Also, their warranty is questionable on buy used guide boats, which most of the used bluewave's available are 1-2 year old guide boats. I am leaning towards the Bullsbay 2200 and I am going to check out the new Seapro boats. I have taken a look at some used boats, a couple of maybes out there. I still have a charter scheduled for the 8th, and I am working on credit for a another, so I have some time and still get some fishing in. I would like a 24' boat, but a 22' boat will do just fine for years to come. |
I've got a 2nd year guide boat trade in...had it for over 2 years. No issues with build quality except one hatch in the deck in front of the console that takes a lot of force when stepping down from the front deck...more flex than I like so I plan on a little surgery on it this winter. Other than that it is a great boat. I know I have some warranty left on the Yammy 250 but I did not ask about the hull/components. If you go through the boat thoroughly before you buy you should be able to spot any real problems. I am hypercritical when it comes to my boats and the PB2400 really has satisfied me thus far.
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MREX,
I by no means am saying anything bad about other boats. Frontier, Blackjack, Bluewave, Blazer, Pathfinder are all great boats. And I AM NOT ranking Skeeter above them either, but for my needs, and overall average, Im telling you, the new 210 SX is amazing. SKeeter finally got rid of that ugly Double S inlay on the sides of the boat, and that ugly pin striping and double tone colors. They have a new design team that is using the ISLA MORADA Florida style coloring concepts and the new hull rides like a dream. AGAIN, SKEETER is not the only boat I would buy, but Im just giving my opinion, but my opinion isn't worth much Im sure. AND NO, I DO NOT WORK FOR SKEETER.. LOL Im a simple Industrial Engineer. What do I know. LOL |
have become a Skeeter Fan. If I had to buy today it would be a Skeeter. But still have a few more to go check out and really in no big hurry. Blackjack is nice but it is priced out same as a 24 ft boat. Trying to get a test ride set up on a pathfinder.
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I always, always, always, tell everyone DO YOUR HOMEWORK. DONT listen to street doctors or salesmen. DO YOUR HOMEWORK. You will be surprised to see what you find out. LOL |
Those Epics are about the ugliest boat I ever saw. I hate boats with that upswept front half.
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Kind of like the Blackjack looks like someone had a head on collision with a boat ramp and didn't want to repair the front end |
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Watching some FCJ boats being built today. Easy to trust something you can see be built
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All this bashing of Epics. They can't be that bad. I know some are gonna get their feelings hurt over that. But hey you gotta be salty to survive here sometimes I guess.
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If you cant look at a epic bay boat in person and see the glaring qc issues then you need to set a budget and let someone else pick a bay boat for you who has an idea of what they are looking at.
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GO N I N J A , GO N I N J A, GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But hey, Rolls Royce makes the best quality car in the world, but if you paint it DOO DOO brown and give it some Ugly design, ITS AN UGLY ride no matter how well its design LOL. |
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I in fact did own a N I N J A TURTLE GREEN EPIC>
I DRANK THE KOOLAID> I can tell you, even after a lawsuit with EPIC. THEY ARE CRAP. COMPLETE CRAP. and the company president, KURT is a hack business man. He was FIRED from LARSON CO, the Largest boat Incorporation in the US. LARSON owns many many other boat companies. I believe to include Ranger, Stratos, and a few Bay boat companies |
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Now this funny, I don't care who you are. LOL |
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Evil Knievel Loves BLACKJACK BOATS
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Why is boat buying so difficult. The key west dealer couldn't give me a price on the spot, was suppose to call me back today. The Nauticstar Dealer will not talk numbers in a rational manner. I want to start off with a base boat and see how much each option adds to the cost, he has $40k boats bloated to $60k.
Bulls bay 2200 in white with a white Merc might be in my future, not my favorite boat, but the dealer is great. I need to call Kyle again, and I am going to make the round of the boat places in New Orleans soon. Still open to suggestions, so far we have looked at: Ranger Triton Epic Bulls Bay Key West NauticStar Bluewave That is all I can think of right now. |
Resale Value--Something to think about
With all due respect sir, I think you would be crazy to pay over 30k on a new Bulls Bay boat and overlook the Frontier.
Listen to these words: One day you will sell this boat; and what you buy now will determine the price tag down the road. |
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DO NOT BUY A BOAT WITH YOUR EMOTIONS! Talk to the dealer look at the boat and see what kind of deal they offer. If they give you this its only good today BS walk away. Its a commodity. They have a limited pool of buyers. Most want to get as much as they can from every sale regardless of how the purchase effects you. I never buy anything big without a day or two to mull the deal over. If that is a problem with the seller then I don't need it. Any time I've ever bought something under pressure I regretted it. If your not 1000% happy with the purchase you will never be able to fully enjoy the boat. |
I gave this dealer three pitches, he's out.
I don't dislike the BullsBay, it is quite a value. I will hopefully get prices on the 230 and 246 keywest bay reefs tomorrow. We did check out the Frontier 2104, wish it was bigger, it has been the smallest boat we have considered. I am also looking heavily at used boats, but I don't want a project. What one person see's as "great shape" I see $2500 in Gel coat repairs, all new electronics, wiring and trolling motor, a trailer overhaul and new upholstery all around. |
I bought a boat last year after looking hard and doing a hell of a lot of research on them. I had pretty much made up my mind to go with a new one, I was leaning towards a Key West 23 Bay Reef, until I came across a lightly used Cape Bay that was fully loaded. The boat did not have a mark on it and had 60 hrs on the motor. I paid 35k less than the original owner did a year earlier. Would I have been happy with the Key West? Probably but it is no where near the boat that my Cape Horn is. A slightly used boat with a better fit and finish will get you more for your dollar. I had to drive to Florida to get mine but it was worth it. There are some amazing deals out there. A lot of people who buy boats have more money the sense, especially in Florida. If you are still in the market for a Key West try Gulf Coast Boats in Lafayette. They quoted me the best price on the Key West.
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Try looking at the classifieds on thehulltruth.com. A lot of guys on that site buy a boat every couple of years. You can get an idea of who you are dealing with by going back and looking at their previous post. That site is a treasure trove of information on any type of boat out there.
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I would also throw in the Action Craft 2110. Would be hard to find but seem to have a cult following in Fl.
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KCINNICK, Here are the 2 best names of sales reps you can talk to. I promise you the best service from either guy. Mike Oncal w/ Cajun outboards - Skeeter Dealer Rob Pond w/ Ocean Springs Marine in Biloxi. - Rob is a straight shooter and customer service is bar none. He will call you every time he says he will call. |
You are using your head in the purchase. Remember a lot of the boats for sale in Florida don't come with a trailer from what I've seen. That good deal might not be so good once you factor in the cost of a trailer as well.
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Champion is out of business COMPLETELY. Ranger bought them and supported the Champion made boats until 2012. Now there is no support for Champion boats, including parts, warranty, or anything else. Ranger has washed their hands of Champion completely after dissolving them. What does that mean??? Champion boats are only worth the Motor hanging on the back. |
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Kinnick<< Let me quote my late great Grandfather &^$%*^ LEBLUE of Lake Charles. "t'neg, don't never get youself a new boat, go done get dem use boats and let the couyon who bought it new eat all dem problems." I followed that advice until last year. I bought a new N I N J A Turtle green EPIC and paid the price for it. |
check out the hydrasport bay bolt too. Its a 23fter
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Hydra Sport Bay Bolt is a bad knock off of the CAPE HORN bay boat. Cape Horn absolute dream and smooth ride. Hydra Sport great ride, turns into a lead weight in a turn. goes from 45mp to 3mph. Very very heavy boat. Will crush a wave, and strong boat, I will give it that. BUT A FIG I tell ya, ITS A FIG |
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Well B-Stealth, First I would never make that claim unless it was guaranteed. But I will give you an pretty good proven scenario. The gas tank is sealed in the boat, no access unless through the Gas cap and hose. Which the hose makes several S CURVES from the cap to the tank. WHICH would make it almost impossible to maneuver through the hose into the tank which actually makes a bend upward then downward. This being said, the following items were found in the boat tank FIBERGLASS ---- OOHH now how would fiberglass (something the boat is made of ) make it into the tank. Cigarettes. --- OOOHH now how would cigarettes make in the tank (especially if it had gas)) Needle Nose Pliers ---- Sorry gonna just say, aint no way in sam hell pliers made it through the gas cap Sticks & Leaves ---- Same answer as above MCDONALDS Wrapper ---- UMMM bet its safe to say the guys SMOKING on lunch break threw both their lunch trash and cigarette butts in the tank Pair of Rubber Gloves --- Yeh pretty much synonymous using fiberglass and resin. AND NOW THE PUNCH LINE> The tank has a serial number, EPIC admitted that the serial number on the tank was from the VIP BAY STEALTH inventory which they did not use in their new boats. EPIC claimed someone grabbed the wrong tank and placed in the boat. EPIC uses a different polymer type tank and manufacturer for their tanks and a different serial numbering system for the EPCI boats. BUT that's all just a guess. WHAT DO YOU THINK ??? LOL |
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