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"W" 02-12-2013 10:20 AM

I never said anything about shooting a guy fleeing..

If I walk out and see someone in my truck and I feel threated ..

Shoot 1st ask later....

FF_T_Warren 02-12-2013 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by flounder_smacker (Post 548131)
Just remember shoot below the waist if they are running away.

dead men tell no tales...and cant sue you

"W" 02-12-2013 10:25 AM

The "stand your ground" states (TX & LA) say you can stand your ground, you don't have to run away You can stay on your front porch and drop the scum

Louisiana allows the use of deadly force to prevent a car-jacking.

So you see, it all depends on the state. In general, though, you cannot use deadly force unless you feel you life is in danger. Or somebody else's life. Breaking in does not meet this requirement, not unless there is a reasonable danger to life.

A cautionary word: Never, never, never fire a warning shot into the air. A slick prosecutor will ask "If you felt your life was in immediate peril, why were you shooting into the air"?

swampman46 02-12-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 547995)
How I see it... If your out at 2-3am nothing good can come from it

If your on someone property breaking into someone private owned thing , you should prepare for the consequences !

Would I shoot at someone in my truck??? Yes all 30 rounds!!


If you take the chance to steal or rob someone you take the chance to pay!!

Its not yours so leave it alone and you will never ever never have to worry about getting shot for stealing !!



(if that is the true story)

I own guns, and love them. But that's the kind of statement the the gun opponents LOVE to see...and it proves their point. :(

"W" 02-12-2013 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by swampman46 (Post 548138)
I own guns, and love them. But that's the kind of statement the the gun opponents LOVE to see...and it proves their point. :(


What Point???? Its a right for someone to come steal????? with zero worries??

swampman46 02-12-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dink (Post 548037)
Ill look it up tomorrow, but I think im right

No you're wrong.

SULPHITE 02-12-2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by swampman46 (Post 548138)
I own guns, and love them. But that's the kind of statement the the gun opponents LOVE to see...and it proves their point. :(

He is right...your messing with a force greater than us at this point in time...liberal media is very very powerful...

Matt G 02-12-2013 10:37 AM

I do know that on one of the other break-ins the shooter had his prescription of aderal(sp) stolen. These guys probably thought it was an easy score on some pills and decided to try again. Don't think those catholic school kids aren't like that, cause where you think the public school kids used to buy their drugs from! From the story I heard Seth heard the people in his truck and walked outside to see. Saw them and went get his gun when the driver drove around to pick up the two breaking in, he went after them. Like I said, it's what I heard so take it with a grain of salt. It sounds a lot more probable than kids looking to score a few suds, or some random crazy person standing in the road at 2 in the morning shooting at random vehicles.

swampman46 02-12-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 548139)
What Point???? Its a right for someone to come steal????? with zero worries??

OK I see you dont get the point, the gun control freaks feed on people like you. Nothing I, are anyone else here say, will get you to understand. Peirs Morgan would have a field day with you. :)

inchspinner 02-12-2013 10:41 AM

You shoot, be prepared to defend yourself until your not proven at fault....a gun is used in the last OPTION if needed and your lifes on the line...not to just shoot people to warn them, i live guns and guns dont kill people, people kill other people jmo...good luck shooting someone with no questions asked...

flounder_smacker 02-12-2013 10:49 AM

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This is a screen shot from one of the kids dad. His son is the one who got shot in the neck and is still alive. Attachment 46166

flounder_smacker 02-12-2013 10:56 AM

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Attachment 46167

FF_T_Warren 02-12-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by flounder_smacker (Post 548146)
This is a screen shot from one of the kids dad. His son is the one who got shot in the neck and is still alive. Attachment 46166

I'd love to believe tht but that is a statement from a blind dad who isn't paying attention to what his kid is really doing. You think for one second that dude shot 3 times and hit 3 kids when they were just slowing down to drop a boy off. I don't believe that for a second. That's what his son told him and of course his kid "does no wrong". Gimme a break

Dink 02-12-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by swampman46 (Post 548140)
No you're wrong.

Yep....I was wrong. LA and TX had the same law back in the day. It changed. Not sure when

Smalls 02-12-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by FF_T_Warren (Post 548151)
I'd love to believe tht but that is a statement from a blind dad who isn't paying attention to what his kid is really doing. You think for one second that dude shot 3 times and hit 3 kids when they were just slowing down to drop a boy off. I don't believe that for a second. That's what his son told him and of course his kid "does no wrong". Gimme a break


I will say that I have to agree. I will not speculate on what happened that night, because as many have said, we will not know until all the details come out. But this guy is blinded by his kid being hurt. I just can't believe that this guy managed to hit 3 kids, killing 1, with a handgun when they were in a moving vehicle.

But I guess crazier things have happened. Only time will tell. But i would definitely say the father is blinded, because he was not in the vehicle or on that street when all this happened.

And on the note of the 1st degree murder charge--correct me if I'm wrong, but 1st degree is premeditated, right? So this guy had the intention of killing someone on his street at 2 AM?

YellowMouth7 02-12-2013 11:28 AM

Where are the fish biting in Big Lake?

Riceland 02-12-2013 11:45 AM

Still a bunch of holes in the dads story too. Looks like another he said she said...

whunter29 02-12-2013 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by FF_T_Warren (Post 548151)
I'd love to believe tht but that is a statement from a blind dad who isn't paying attention to what his kid is really doing. You think for one second that dude shot 3 times and hit 3 kids when they were just slowing down to drop a boy off. I don't believe that for a second. That's what his son told him and of course his kid "does no wrong". Gimme a break

I feel the family's have blinders on.

SULPHITE 02-12-2013 12:01 PM

sounds to me like more info to be used in court...welcome to the digital age!

simplepeddler 02-12-2013 12:17 PM

W a car jacking is one thing............you are IN THE CAR and someone comes to TAKE THE CAR........

in your words "if I WALK OUT" and see someone in my car I fell threatened...........
No little big man, if you walk out and have a gun and said thieve is un armed HE feels threatened.........

I don't expect you to understand, and when you will tossing some dudes salad in prison, he really will not car either..........

as always, you are comparing apples to oranges.

I understand the desire to protect what is yours
I understand the hatred for thieves
YOU need to understand that you are not an attorney.
Lawyers will eat your lunch, period end of story.
Then, if by chance, by some sort of mircale you get an OJ verdict, you WILL BE SUED civally, and that radio of pistol you shot someone over is going to cost you the overwhelming investment account you proclaim to have.........

but he, some of us have to learn lessons the hard way.........
Go shooter GEAUX!

"W" 02-12-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by simplepeddler (Post 548181)
W a car jacking is one thing............you are IN THE CAR and someone comes to TAKE THE CAR........

in your words "if I WALK OUT" and see someone in my car I fell threatened...........
No little big man, if you walk out and have a gun and said thieve is un armed HE feels threatened.........

I don't expect you to understand, and when you will tossing some dudes salad in prison, he really will not car either..........

as always, you are comparing apples to oranges.

I understand the desire to protect what is yours
I understand the hatred for thieves
YOU need to understand that you are not an attorney.
Lawyers will eat your lunch, period end of story.
Then, if by chance, by some sort of mircale you get an OJ verdict, you WILL BE SUED civally, and that radio of pistol you shot someone over is going to cost you the overwhelming investment account you proclaim to have.........

but he, some of us have to learn lessons the hard way.........
Go shooter GEAUX!


They have a kid in Jennings who just shot a dude with a freken shotgun in his yard .. Because he felt for his life and the perp had a gun on him


99% of thefts will have a gun!! So before you can shoot me , I will shot 1st!!

Bottom line if you like or not, I will protect my property and my family and I will stand up in any court of law!!

simplepeddler 02-12-2013 12:28 PM

I know you will buddy..........

BayBolt23 02-12-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by flounder_smacker (Post 548148)

I know this guy very well and can tell you they are very good people! I will agree the whole story does have alot holes in it! More info will come out in the future.

ironworker 02-12-2013 12:43 PM

In the , stand-your-ground law states that a person may justifiably use force in self-defense when there is reasonable belief of an unlawful threat, without an first. The concept sometimes exists in and sometimes through precedents. One key distinction is whether the concept only applies to defending a home or vehicle, or whether it applies to all lawfully occupied locations.
Under these legal concepts, a person is justified in using in certain situations and the "stand your ground" law would be a defense or to and . The difference between immunity and a defense is that an immunity bars suit, charges, detention and arrest. A defense, such as an , permits a or the state to seek civil damages or a criminal conviction but may offer mitigating circumstances that justifies the accused's conduct.
More than half of the states in the have adopted the , stating that a person has no when their home is attacked. Some states go a step further, removing the duty of retreat from other locations. "Stand Your Ground", "Line In The Sand" or "No Duty To Retreat" laws thus state that a person has no duty or other requirement to abandon a place in which he has a right to be, or to give up ground to an assailant. Under such laws, there is no duty to retreat from anywhere the defender may legally be.[1] Other restrictions may still exist; such as when in public, a person must be carrying in a legal manner, whether or .
"Stand your ground" governs U.S. federal in which right of self-defense is asserted against a charge of . The ruled in Beard v. U.S. (158 550 (1895)) that a man who was "on his premises" when he came under attack and "...did not provoke the assault, and had at the time reasonable grounds to believe, and in good faith believed, that the deceased intended to take his life, or do him great bodily harm...was not obliged to retreat, nor to consider whether he could safely retreat, but was entitled to stand his ground."[2][3]
Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. declared in Brown v. United States (1921) (256 U.S. 335, 343 (16 May 1921)), a case that upheld the "no duty to retreat" maxim, that "detached reflection cannot be demanded in the presence of an uplifted knife".[

"W" 02-12-2013 01:07 PM

Bottom line is.......

Don't tread on me!!!

Will bust a cap in your azz... Stay off my property , don't steal and obey the laws!

inchspinner 02-12-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 548199)
Bottom line is.......

Don't tread on me!!!

Will bust a cap in your azz... Stay off my property , don't steal and obey the laws!

With the one finger point and red face, tell em "W"orm as your brother would call you;)

BassYakR 02-12-2013 01:15 PM

Id have to say that for once I agree with "W" .No opinion on this case tho. Bc theres just way too much misinformation going around. Ill wait to pass judgement once facts are out.

Samsung Galaxy S3 (Android dominating the world!)

swampman46 02-12-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 548199)
Bottom line is.......

Don't tread on me!!!

Will bust a cap in your azz... Stay off my property , don't steal and obey the laws!

So if you just happen to see teenagers in your yard at night...you have the right to just open fire? Thats insane. People like you that give gun owners...good law abiding citizens a bad name. Thats why they're trying to take our guns from us.

Matt G 02-12-2013 01:19 PM

All this talking about bustin caps reminds me.... Academy in Lafayette on ambassador has 556, 308, 40, and 7.62x54R. Just left there and my wife an I each got a box of 556 and 54R. Couldn't get somebody in line to help me out.

"W" 02-12-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by swampman46 (Post 548208)
So if you just happen to see teenagers in your yard at night...you have the right to just open fire? Thats insane. People like you that give gun owners...good law abiding citizens a bad name. Thats why they're trying to take our guns from us.

LMAO... No where did I ever say that, I said if I caught someone breaking into my truck/car/shop/house ... And I felt threaten , I would shot till the trigger clicked


I will protect ME , MY family and MY property .... No questions asked


With the crazy crap going on in this world today , I will us my 2nd amendment and right to protect ME!!

I keep gun my truck , house (bedroom and office) Camp
And a unloaded gun does you no purpose

fishinpox 02-12-2013 03:08 PM

W = Rambo!!!

1fastmerc 02-12-2013 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 548260)
W = Rambo!!!

W=no spell check.


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Dogface 02-12-2013 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 548246)
LMAO... No where did I ever say that, I said if I caught someone breaking into my truck/car/shop/house ... And I felt threaten , I would shot till the trigger clicked


I will protect ME , MY family and MY property .... No questions asked


With the crazy crap going on in this world today , I will us my 2nd amendment and right to protect ME!!

I keep gun my truck , house (bedroom and office) Camp
And a unloaded gun does you no purpose


In your original post you didn't mention being threatened so quit changing your story. You made a dumb a** statement and now you are trying to crawfish.

Duffy.yyz 02-12-2013 04:08 PM

Hahaha

Dogface 02-12-2013 04:10 PM

W just go back and read your post #54 from yesterday.

Goooh 02-12-2013 04:42 PM

I keep seeing talk of how crazy the world is today, stuff ain't any crazier than it was 2,000 years ago. People have aways been sick, always been murderers and rapist, and as long as people exist it ain't gonna change.

Read about the Romans, read about the Vikings, read about medieval times... If anything, we are the least crazy bunch so far. The only difference is we see it much more with how in tune we are with the rest of society and the entire planet.

bmac 02-12-2013 04:44 PM

Ok hypothetical question. You raise sheep in a barbed wire enclosure next to your house. Some crazy guy decides the sheep need to be free. You walk outside and see this guy cutting your fence down with wire cutters. What do you do?

Duffy.yyz 02-12-2013 04:46 PM

If I were relying on those sheep for money, I'd shoot em.

Goooh 02-12-2013 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bmac (Post 548283)
Ok hypothetical question. You raise sheep in a barbed wire enclosure next to your house. Some crazy guy decides the sheep need to be free. You walk outside and see this guy cutting your fence down with wire cutters. What do you do?

RPG

Montauk17 02-12-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bmac (Post 548283)
Ok hypothetical question. You raise sheep in a barbed wire enclosure next to your house. Some crazy guy decides the sheep need to be free. You walk outside and see this guy cutting your fence down with wire cutters. What do you do?

Call "W"

meaux fishing 02-12-2013 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bmac (Post 548283)
Ok hypothetical question. You raise sheep in a barbed wire enclosure next to your house. Some crazy guy decides the sheep need to be free. You walk outside and see this guy cutting your fence down with wire cutters. What do you do?

call the cops and go over there and ask him what the hell he's doing

bmac 02-12-2013 05:32 PM

"Can't you see I'm setting these sheep free?"

"W" 02-12-2013 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bmac (Post 548283)
Ok hypothetical question. You raise sheep in a barbed wire enclosure next to your house. Some crazy guy decides the sheep need to be free. You walk outside and see this guy cutting your fence down with wire cutters. What do you do?

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"W" 02-12-2013 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogface (Post 548274)
W just go back and read your post #54 from yesterday.

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elebouef 02-12-2013 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bmac (Post 548283)
Ok hypothetical question. You raise sheep in a barbed wire enclosure next to your house. Some crazy guy decides the sheep need to be free. You walk outside and see this guy cutting your fence down with wire cutters. What do you do?

Since it was me who was cutting the wire, I would say " Mr. W., I have heard that you have been abusing these sheep and I am turning them loose. If you persuade charges against me, I will report you to the Animal Sex Crime Unit."

swampman46 02-12-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bmac (Post 548283)
Ok hypothetical question. You raise sheep in a barbed wire enclosure next to your house. Some crazy guy decides the sheep need to be free. You walk outside and see this guy cutting your fence down with wire cutters. What do you do?

According to "W", you unload your magazine on him til it goes "click, click, click"

Dogface 02-12-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 548308)
....

I'm not mad at all but if I was I would get over it but with you there is no getting over being dumb. Just admit you made a bad statement and move on. Oh, that's right, you don't admit to making mistakes. LMAO!!!

"W" 02-12-2013 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by swampman46 (Post 548313)
According to "W", you unload your magazine on him til it goes "click, click, click"

Now that's what I'm talking about !!

DA COVE 02-12-2013 06:57 PM

Yep, right after it goes click,click,click, the perps buddy comes out the bushes and does the same!!!

"W" 02-12-2013 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DA COVE (Post 548335)
Yep, right after it goes click,click,click, the perps buddy comes out the bushes and does the same!!!

That's why you carry hand grenades for back up.... Pull pin and throw


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