looks like one is game

Rock or Ribbon?
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!

It was brought up and like I said we can go to little chennier. The blind is listed in the first post of this thread. I know it not a field trial blind its a hunting blind

So exactly how do you plan on separating a robot dog, from a hunting dog, that trusts his/her master?

Deadly D, I believe the word you were looking for in your run on sentence was "knew" not "new".

10 grand ,now there is some vittles this close to Christmas, Check or Credit, Debit , just wandering?

True. Original senerio will not fly. Hell, this started over a dog getting lost amd you want to send them on a 350yd no see em blind. No man with common sense would take that bet.

Exactly, he doesn't know what a "blind" is so it will be impossible to explain said criteria for judgement. It doesn't have to be longer than 100 yds but will require a whistle and hands. Klondike fire station would work, it should have enough room. Thursday is my only day to run blinds since I am scheduled to train ribbon dogs in Laplace Friday. My definition "the real definition" of a blind retrieve and you got Yosef a bet.
Is bet limited to just me? I am pretty sure I can get 15-20 dog handler teams to Klondike for that kinda chedda.

This is inbetween MR. Pro and rock dog and it just didn't start there it started about 3 yrs ago with smartazz comments so have a good day

Read number 1 and it will be in a marsh any dog can run in a field. My poodle can fetch a ball that far and he is a ball dog.

Cash or check

"W"s best one yet! LOL

There again you prove the point that you know absolutely nothing about training dogs. Google blind retrieve and post the definition,, original post you wanted to pickup one but don't know what it is. Why are you so afraid of knowledge and so resistant to learning????

Hopefully this bet goes better than the infamous Saltygate scandal between W and inch .. Although that did lead to an interesting several months of W getting to flex his CSI muscles lol

That was a classic!

We lost a site member over that one, I miss inch he always had great reports.

man, I say this with all do respect...........you and Raymond need to meet with each other, with your dogs and see the "definition" of what each of you are intending.

I will give credit where credit is due..........I am sure you have a great dog. I think mine is great too. Raymond and these guys are playing in games that are fine tuned.

Like shooting 98 instead of 89 in a sporting clays tournament.....89 is damn skippy for a duck hunter, but not in the top 10 in the "real" shooters.

I think, with the love of dogs each of you have, you could fine common ground...........

I know trainers love to meet dogs with pure natural ability.......sounds like you have one of those........

Quaid gets 95% of all the birds I knock down, we hunt timber, which brings in it's own challenges.........but I know in my heart with a better trainer.......I.E. "not me" he could do better, and without as much "help" from me........

I am a HUGE fan of doing it myself........but am I doing my pup justice??

Bottom line.............you TWO guys go and meet up and meet each other's pups............

I believe this is the dumbest competition ever.. So the dog will just run around until it happens to come across this 300-400 yrd mark? Whats the fun in that if you cant see your dog further than 50 yards? Isnt the handler supposed to help the dog find the bird?

So by letting the dog work on its own, that is saying your dog has not trust in you helping him get to the mark.. and i thought we wanted trust in our dogs?

I have no "Dog" in this fight, but I have hunted with D dog and it is one bad machine. I would put it up against any dog!!

I love good dog work. This makes me want to hunt with DD.

Here's y'all's chance, www.entryexpress.net. Don't even have to do any of those bull**** whistles or hand signals. Enter the Derby stakes, it's just a "simple" double mark, and mostly 3-400 yards to boot! Sounds like the perfect setup.

Aren't "Robots" machines??????????????????????????:rolleyes:

If he will agree to enter, I will pay the entry fee. Wait, derby's are only for dogs under two years old so the Marsh Machine may not qualify. Never the less, I will spring for either the Qual entry fee. If he can make it out of the 3rd series, I'll hand over the $10,000.

Really have nothing to lose

Derby is my favorite. Its all about a dogs natural abilities....not how good his training is.

The true definition of a "wild goose chase". As soon as you undo that leash thats holding that dog from playing romper room in the decoys, they get after it son! Them dogs know not to show their face back in that blind if they don't have a bird in their mouth!

Al doesn't age out until July 21st, will let ya know dates we enter.

Tico got that

See That what you think. If your dog is trained it will trust you. If you have to blow the whistle all day long the dog cant trust your mark of line to go retrieve the bird. That is the difference between a robot ribbon dog or a rock dog.

What is the matter with the original 300 to 400 yrd your dummy launcher only shoots a hundred yrds. If your dog cant take a line and go without having to blow your whistle all day and not be able to see you, well keep on training for your ribbons.

I thought we were in the trust tree??

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What is so hard to understand about this either your dog can do it or not pretty simple

No intelligent dog man would take that bet. That is why you threw it out there. Do you have any openings for the second split?

I don get it. So there's no time limit? Hide a bird 500 yards away, send your dog, let him hunt aimlessly for hours until he stumbles upon a bird? Where does training come into play?

This thread is as cool as all "fish-off" threads with the $1000K" wagers that took never came to happen.

With all you big money guys going on about whose dog has a bigger sack, throwing out crazy numbers, how about you guys pitch in on something that really make a difference in the world like our 2013 Christmas drive! Families that we are helping would probably praise both dogs and, call em cute but, what these big numbers being spewed would really do is help them!

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This thread is gay

All that money tied up in a dog to get birds

Show me a wiener dog retrieving geese, then I'll be impressed with the $5000 school he went to.

Carry on.

Needed a place to use this one again!!

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I seen't a dude come to the line one time and let his dog watch all 3 marks come out. Sent the dog for the go-bird and it ran all over creation til it SOB, then same thing for both memory birds. On the blind he kicked the dog off on "back" and crossed his arms and waited. He was confused and upset when he got dropped, "But he picked up all the birds and I never even had to handle him!"

There was nothing intelligent in that post.;)

Maybe he jus didn't have enough "Trust" in the handler to complete the "mission"?? You must have the "Quan" wit yo dog to have true enlightenment.

Well last time i checked, you dont have to blow your whistle all day long for a robot, "trained" dog.. I do believe you would be blowing that whistle a lot more for your rock dog.

and believe me, i know the difference, i have had both kinds of dogs..

Is this real life?:confused:

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I had trouble with that line from a dog training perspective and a English language perspective.

I did not realize that when a dog turns on a whistle to look at you they are actually mocking and questioning your ability to "mark of line to go retrieve bird". This entire time I thought I was with a fine tuned robot but he is actually doing it out of dis-trust. I'm going to beat that robot when i get home for listening to that stupid whistle that I blow all day regardless if he is with me or not.

I liked his reports also. Wish he would come back.

so................who's on first?

So do I, you guys should reach out to him and let him know how you feel. He still checks Pm's.

I threw it out there cause everyone either has a dog trained by him or it is a rock dog. Plan and simple I have the money and he cant get his dog to do it unless you can see the dog and blow the whistle at him and line him back up when he gets lost. And no the dog doesn't get to go run around and hunt for the bird, take the line and get the bird or bust. To answer opening dates I have Christmas and New Years but that is for my neighbor that takes care of my dogs when we are gone from the house.

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Man!! Saturday can't come soon enough!! Y'all n i njas need to get back in the blind!!

Good to know ... I'll do that, I also enjoyed his reports and posts