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There can be no compromise, no moving forward, no "working together" until they acknowledge past transgressions and make firm, binding, and accountable commitments that their conservation efforts will never again include pushing for restrictions that are not shown to be necessary in compelling scientific data. Once they do this, they are welcome to pay me $60 and come to my meeting so we can begin working together. |
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I need to say we're did the money go and what bin infect did I get for its use. And if all I get is a fing were I coment I'm pissed then I was jibed led on and miss represented. I guess my lawyer needs to collect court fees too. |
W, very proud of you taking the time to contact CCA and talk with David. What did he tell you???
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I have A SIMPLE QUESTION FOR ALL U ARM-CHAIR QB's....
Tell Me HOW CCA's Is to BLAME for: 1. The WEIRS Closing & Opening?? 2. The Legislation that UR Representative from Jennings CAVED ON about the Use of Oyster Dredges in the Lake and WEST COVE?? 3. The Land Eroison along the Ship Channel??? Who is in Control of the maintenance and WHAT HAPPENS Along Said Channel ???? Please Just Answer the 3 questions... And PLEASE Stick to Answering the Questions.. PS.. If any haters on here Think for ONE MOMENT MYSELF OR Raymond ARE Yes Men or paid in any way by CCA.. They are SADDLY Mistaken... MISGUIDED AN SADDLY Mistaken.. I'm a Volunteer Only.. Like everyone else that volunteers.. I'm only PAID by one of the Largest Oil company's in the World TO Keep People LIKE U ALL Safe and going home to UR family's every night.. FOR all U guys that work in Plants in the Lake Chuck area.. I'm Passionate about my JOB.. |
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Isn't this issue at least as important (since it has a bigger impact on the ecosystem) as pushing for a reduced limit on specks? Isn't failing to act also a decision? They decided the speck limit was more important. Quote:
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#1 Why did CCA push for a reduction in the trout limit on big lake when Biologists said it wasn't warranted? #2 Why is CCA pushing for a limit on triple tail with ZERO scientific data to back such? #3 Why is CCA pushing for an increase in salt water license fees? #4 On what grounds was CCA pushing for a ban on bow fishing for? #5 Where was CCA when us recreational guys were getting the shaft on the red snapper season? I realize this is more than 3 questions so feel free to pick out the three u would like to answer. |
What have they done for me lately?
It seems they are getting more rules passed quietly so as to benefit LWF ability to collect fines . And to me it seems we got enough rules that are laws that they can collect on. Soon the famed speckled red tail will be on the endangered list so no one can take a leek in a portalet. This **** is out of hand and they the CCA need to protect the privet angler as natural conditions prohibit the enjoyment of fishing. Do something that supports the angler instead of the speckled red tail. All in favor of the angler say I |
I don't see anyone on SC Slamming the US Fish and Wildlife Serv... THEY CONTROL THE WEIRs.. THE FEDERAL GOV...
I Don't see anyone on here Protesting and Boycotting the Lake Chuck Port Commission.. If I'm not Mistaken; They Control the Channel... Plus the Army Corp of Eng. Again the Fed.'s CCA Is in the Business Granting of State Water Bottoms for Oyster Leases NOW??? Come ONNNNN.... HOW come U All are not Protecting or boycotting the WL&F office on the Lake.. They control the state oyster leases.. Why not get everyone NOT TO Purchase a fishing license??? Stop Blaming CCA FOR EVERTHING... Call a meeting, call UR area legislatrative reps., Call Port Commission members, Ask CCA leadership to Attend..,.Ask Questions of ALL Officials. Voice Concerns... MathGeek.. Bring UR graphs.. Share with a WLF Fisheries Biologist .. I for ONE, find them compelling.... GET OFF UR AZZ's and DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE ABOUT UR CONCERNS.... |
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Biggun will never answer your issues, because he cannot. What will happen you will be personally attacked or threaten, as I was by CCA and biggun.
I often get the feeling that the kool-aid drinkers have never read CCA's very own mission statement on its website, nor is it ever addressed doing their revivals. Fear not my freinds, the Galaxy is coming! |
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CCA should be for our best interest and thats what this is all about you tool. they are supposed to be our voice.
itd be like the nra being in support of bans on guns or magazines. they are our voice in many matters. |
Another Two Issues
(1) We plan on spending a significant sum of money on making the sponsors of the STAR realize what they think CCA is doing is not exactly what is being done.
For example, once the license increase takes effect, we have secured media reps to prepare a full page ad in every magazine and newspaper that circulates south of Interstate 10. The page will reflect the names of every sponsor to the STAR and inform every read that the mentioned names are in part responsible for the increase in YOUR cost to fish in this State. We will also make a humble request that all readers cease business with these entities. We have cleared this with legal, so this is a go. If approved, the law will go in effect on August 15, 2014 and the ad will appear on the following weeks/months publications. (2) Many of you raised the fact that CCA is a political organization. In fact, we have evidence, testimony and recordation of CCA staff and directors stating such. We are compiling such evidence to present to the IRS since a 501(C) corp. cannot be political in nature. |
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I've met a number of the owners of business who have S.T.A.R. weigh stations. I have not had ample opportunity to discuss these issues with them, yet. These are good people and good, honest businessmen and women. Like many sportsmen, I think they have been duped by the idea that a group with "Conservation" in the name must be doing good. I'd be slow and grant them opportunity to consider all the facts for a period of time before attempting to impact their income. |
3FLa, I'm behind your group 100%. However, MG has a very valid point. These sponsors have been lied to just like the rest of us. I personally know a couple of them and believe given the chance would drop STAR and join forces with Galaxy.
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Mathgeek/Marshrunner
You both make good points, which that I will pass along. However, at a minimum, a personal and informative letter to these sponsors may solve the problem. Thereafter, if they choose to continue their sponsorships, then a full blown media press may be in order.
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Is there any legal precedent to the rule that says participants cannot be entered in STAR/CCA and also win a prize in the Galaxy tourney? I am trying to think of a similar situation but I'm drawing a blank.
I wonder if it could be seen as discriminatory in some manner. Of course membership in CCA/STAR is not a protected freedom, so perhaps no discrimination could occur by definition. However afaik political affiliation is not a protected freedom either, so are there any contests that restrict winners to one party? |
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Business arrangements may be different, of course, you might need to give more thought into whether businesses that serve as official S.T.A.R. weigh stations can serve as official Galaxy stations also. You may also take an approach more like LOWA does with LA state fishing records, or you can base the contest on length where contestants photograph the fish with a suitable length scale. This would allow catch and release entrants as well as a length based bull redfish contest. (Though I would hate to see the contest require release.) Biggest bull reds would be a much more interesting content than chasing tagged reds which has a strong "lottery" like component, but who says you can't do both? |
I suggest rather then a tag system you just hold a random drawing from all entrants and pick a few for the prizes, that way you don't have to catch and tag anything and everyone will be happier because they have a better chance to win then if say the tagged fish aren't caught or aren't in the area a particular fisherman likes to fish.
you can still have the bonus for anyone bringing in a star tagged fish and you can have a best fish of the day category as well as the biggest caught overall for the whole tourney. im no lawyer but common sense dictates that as to the question of participants cannot be entered in STAR/CCA and also win a prize in the Galaxy tourney, well its your tourney and you make the rules so if you make a rule to say you cant qualify for Galaxy prizes if you are a STAR/CCA supporter that's not anything discriminatory because it applies equally to everyone and no persons, race, or ethnic groups are being discriminated against. and I agree with a few others here that Galaxy isn't a great name and you should consider something else and not let trying to counter STAR/CCA be your guide in selecting a name. create a catchy new tag that stands for something on its own and maybe the letters stand for your goals. maybe something like FISH (fishermen in need of help) or something along those lines just please don't try and let STAR be your guide to choosing a name maybe i'll get used to the Galaxy name but from the first time I heard it and even still now it just doesn't sound like the right name |
keep the tags, works well. makes people try hard and learn to fish. drawings just promote money
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Good questions-Some answers
As to why have a tag program as oppose to just drawings: We want more people to enjoy our fisheries, especially those less fortunate than others. That is why when a tagged fish (either ours or CCA) is harvested and a special needs individual, a wounded veteran, and/or a kid, etc are in the fishing party, extra cash is added to the winnings. By doing this, we hope to encourage everyone to take a kid, a verteran, or a special needs person fishing.
As to a drawing: There will be a weekly drawing with some pretty awesome prizes. When you register to fish in the Galaxy, you will get a number and that will become your "id". Each week's drawing will be conducted in conjunction with the state lottery games (similar to how some clubs are doing fund raising now, but on larger scale) and when your numbers match, you when. There will be a gauranteed winner every week. As to any issues with CCA: We are a private group and will not be associated with any state or federal agecny. Thus, we are not bound by typical discrimination issues. Furthermore, CCA is not a suspect class which can be identified as needing protection (race, gender, sex, religion, etc.) In addition, the second CCA releases the tagged fish, it again becomes public property, so it (CCA) has no ownership interest to that fish. So, if you want to fish Galaxy, you cannot fish the STAR. If you register for the STAR, you cannot win any prizes from Galaxy. Finally, some people above mentioned why the name of G-A-L-A-X-Y was used. I personally did not favor the name, but consultants doing research with focus groups suggested that should be the name of the tourney, with the selling point being a "Galaxy eats a Star". I do have to admit that some of the proposed ads and media info is pretty awesome though. |
All sounds good to me. I'm betting the advertising could be pretty amazing with a name like that! I'm ready for 2015
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Artificial reefs increase specks vulnerability
I was studying the Callihan thesis more carefully (I am a geek, right?) and I came across his analysis of whether artificial reefs, like those constructed by CCA contribute to increasing ecosystem productivity or merely aggregate specks to make them easier to catch. (It is well known that the ecosystem services and habitat provided by oyster reefs increase production.)
Although the artificial reefs I studied were deployed as mitigation for the destruction of natural oyster reefs, many similar reefs are being deployed in Louisiana’s estuaries. These projects are typically funded by private conservation organizations under the presumption that artificial reefs will benefit important fishery resources. However, my data suggest these reefs could have a negative impact on sportfish, at least spotted seatrout, by aggregating fish and thus increasing their vulnerability to exploitation via increased catch efficiency. Clearly, state management agencies throughout the GOM should consider this possibility when deciding to grant permission for the deployment of additional artificial reefs in inshore estuarine waters. - Callihan PhD Thesis p. 283 (LSU 2011) It is notable that CCA is spending millions to restore oyster reefs in Texas, but in Louisiana, their efforts have been geared toward restricting harvest limits (while letting oyster reefs get destroyed by dredging), increasing license fees, and building much cheaper artificial reefs. |
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There are boatloads of evidence that artificial reefs (petroleum platforms and the designed reefs used in places like Alabama) contribute to production of red snapper in the Northern Gulf of Mexico. A compelling case has been made that the vertical span of hard substrate works in synergy with the nutrients provided to the Northern GoM by the Mississippi River. See this paper and references therein: http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1306/1306.5114.pdf The attached map shows the Chlorophyll a concentrations in the GoM. Chlorophyll a determines the amount of photosynthesis in the marine food web, thus the amount of primary production. Note the wide area of high primary production off the Louisiana coast. This high primary production is fed by the nutrient rich waters of the Mississippi River. The phytoplankton with all the Chlorophyll a is at the bottom of the food chain and leads to roughly 4 times the biomass in these areas as compared with the areas in blue. Red Snapper thrive off the coast of Louisiana because they have a lot to eat as the biomass works its way up the food chain. |
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I know two big sponsors of the STAR are Academy and Dexter Russel Knives.
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It wasn't till the beginning of this year till I had a boat that I could fish all over the lake with so previously I never fished the south part of the lake much. I still am stunned at all of the oyster dredge boats that you see "parked" all over the place in the south part of the lake. I don't see how there are enough oysters in the lake to sustain all of those boats. Its crazy the amount of people dredging. I don't see how there's any oyster left in the lake.
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dredging "rapes" the bottom and leaves nothing but destruction and long term loss of fish habitat behind wherever it goes. I know of several prime areas that more often then not always held limits of fish but after they were raped by the dredgers and 6 years later you still cant pick up more then a dink here or there in those locations if that even |
im sick and tired of this whole thing really, saying CCA helps fishermen is akin to saying Obama is championing conservative causes lol.
just like the idiots who voted for Obama (students and uninformed idiots) and will continue to vote for socialists just because they are not republicans, there will be those who are clueless and never pay attention to what CCA does and really stands for so they will support it. some just support it to play the star lottery and wouldn't care if it was the devil itself. CCA and Obama are the same, they are both the worst things that could be, yet both are here to stay, because there is no one out there spreading the truth about what they stand for and what they are doing to ruin this country. those who actively support and promote CCA ,support their efforts that are hurting fishermen and that is the plain unbiased truth |
CCA likes easy fights
Add 3 tail limit Add 15 trout Limit That's easy !! Stop oyster raping lmao not in a million years ! They have zero plan in action , will never have a plan in action The oyster fisherman politics make the CCA there ***** |
Oysters in Big Lake are still in sad shape.
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They dont have to say it! its in their Damn name! Costal Conservation Association!
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CCA is recognizes the importance of oysters to a productive fishery and has been working hard for many years to preserve and restore essential oyster reef habitat in Texas.
See: http://www.ccatexas.org/wp-content/u...Scientists.pdf |
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