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matt wahl 12-27-2014 09:08 AM

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This just in

"W" 12-27-2014 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by matt wahl (Post 734203)

But but but

It's like McDonald's they loving it !!


Oil effects almost everyone one who lives in Louisiana and Texas , hell with out profit oil prices Houston would collapse and shut down to the ground !!

Just few weeks ago in the sports bar the USL fans were talking about how much the rich oil companies have helped push USL to a great school

Well I can tell you this ; with falling oil prices these local colleges will not receive the payments and donations like when oil was $80-100 bbl

Think of oil hits $45 ; how many local scholarships will be lost ?

PUREBAY2200 12-27-2014 10:10 AM

Lol
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PUREBAY2200 12-27-2014 10:26 AM

Bottom line a balance of fair, affordable & profitable oil prices is best for everyone.
Teacher, police, firemen, state/gov employees, small business owners, investors and oil/gas workers.

No need to start wishing bad things and cussing on here.
Thanks for keeping in classy SC.

bjhooper82 12-27-2014 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 734171)
Someone explain how oil futures are traded and how this drop in the price per barrel hurts the economy, oil/gas workers etc.

Imagine that!! You involved in a conversation and don't know what the hell your talking about!!

PUREBAY2200 12-27-2014 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bjhooper82 (Post 734208)
Imagine that!! You involved in a conversation and don't know what the hell your talking about!!


Dude, it was sarcasm...... I'll skip sarcastic comments in the future.


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matt wahl 12-27-2014 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 734207)
Bottom line a balance of fair, affordable & profitable oil prices is best for everyone.
Teacher, police, firemen, state/gov employees, small business owners, investors and oil/gas workers.

No need to start wishing bad things and cussing on here.
Thanks for keeping in classy SC.

And who is gonna balance?
Where are ya gonna find these angels so full of virtue?!
The same ones who caused the housing bubble ?

Unregulate that **** and let it go!!

Lasezz fare!

"W" 12-27-2014 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 734207)
Bottom line a balance of fair, affordable & profitable oil prices is best for everyone.
Teacher, police, firemen, state/gov employees, small business owners, investors and oil/gas workers.

No need to start wishing bad things and cussing on here.
Thanks for keeping in classy SC.

^^^^

Goooh 12-27-2014 12:39 PM

People live and operate like the laws of gravity do not apply to economics, yet what goes up does come down every 5-10 years. That's my main quip.

The impact of these times would be mitigated with proactive planning instead of reactive. Everyone is so surprised when the market dips, oil prices sky rocket or the bottom falls out, etc... Yet it's written on the wall and is as predictable as days getting shorter in the winter.

People have already asked for 10% price decreases on products in our business "due to low oil prices", yet the products have not even been impacted nor has their business. Most of what we see is knee jerk reaction a to speculation.

This thing will be a V tapered dip and rise, and not a belly like we saw in the 80's. Plenty of companies see this as a time to scoop up talent being let go by others, so if you have talent and drive you will land somewhere no problem. And if you have put an emergency fund away you can survive 6 months to a year before needing to land, and by then the dip will be gone.

If you have a 28,000 single wide and $150,000 in truck, boat and RZR debt with no emergency fund - boo hoo, that giant shackle on the back of your truck will look good dragging the street when the tow truck comes to get it.


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PUREBAY2200 12-27-2014 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 734217)
People live and operate like the laws of gravity do not apply to economics, yet what goes up does come down every 5-10 years. That's my main quip.

The impact of these times would be mitigated with proactive planning instead of reactive. Everyone is so surprised when the market dips, oil prices sky rocket or the bottom falls out, etc... Yet it's written on the wall and is as predictable as days getting shorter in the winter.

People have already asked for 10% price decreases on products in our business "due to low oil prices", yet the products have not even been impacted nor has their business. Most of what we see is knee jerk reaction a to speculation.

This thing will be a V tapered dip and rise, and not a belly like we saw in the 80's. Plenty of companies see this as a time to scoop up talent being let go by others, so if you have talent and drive you will land somewhere no problem. And if you have put an emergency fund away you can survive 6 months to a year before needing to land, and by then the dip will be gone.

If you have a 28,000 single wide and $150,000 in truck, boat and RZR debt with no emergency fund - boo hoo, that giant shackle on the back of your truck will look good dragging the street when the tow truck comes to get it.


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Agreed!

bayouchub 12-27-2014 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 734217)
People live and operate like the laws of gravity do not apply to economics, yet what goes up does come down every 5-10 years. That's my main quip.

The impact of these times would be mitigated with proactive planning instead of reactive. Everyone is so surprised when the market dips, oil prices sky rocket or the bottom falls out, etc... Yet it's written on the wall and is as predictable as days getting shorter in the winter.

People have already asked for 10% price decreases on products in our business "due to low oil prices", yet the products have not even been impacted nor has their business. Most of what we see is knee jerk reaction a to speculation.

This thing will be a V tapered dip and rise, and not a belly like we saw in the 80's. Plenty of companies see this as a time to scoop up talent being let go by others, so if you have talent and drive you will land somewhere no problem. And if you have put an emergency fund away you can survive 6 months to a year before needing to land, and by then the dip will be gone.

If you have a 28,000 single wide and $150,000 in truck, boat and RZR debt with no emergency fund - boo hoo, that giant shackle on the back of your truck will look good dragging the street when the tow truck comes to get it.


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Possibly one of the best post in sc history!

mriguy 12-27-2014 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 734217)
People live and operate like the laws of gravity do not apply to economics, yet what goes up does come down every 5-10 years. That's my main quip.

The impact of these times would be mitigated with proactive planning instead of reactive. Everyone is so surprised when the market dips, oil prices sky rocket or the bottom falls out, etc... Yet it's written on the wall and is as predictable as days getting shorter in the winter.

People have already asked for 10% price decreases on products in our business "due to low oil prices", yet the products have not even been impacted nor has their business. Most of what we see is knee jerk reaction a to speculation.

This thing will be a V tapered dip and rise, and not a belly like we saw in the 80's. Plenty of companies see this as a time to scoop up talent being let go by others, so if you have talent and drive you will land somewhere no problem. And if you have put an emergency fund away you can survive 6 months to a year before needing to land, and by then the dip will be gone.

If you have a 28,000 single wide and $150,000 in truck, boat and RZR debt with no emergency fund - boo hoo, that giant shackle on the back of your truck will look good dragging the street when the tow truck comes to get it.


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Wise man.

PotLikinisAhabbit 12-27-2014 05:13 PM

I'll be looking at what I can buy for cheap in a couple months.

PaulMyers 12-27-2014 05:38 PM

Maybe the price of Duck Leases will go down for next year.

"W" 12-27-2014 06:05 PM

Can't copy link because it was texted to me but copied and paste artical


There has only been one other time in history when the price of oil has crashed by more than 40 dollars in less than 6 months. The last time this happened was during the second half of 2008, and the beginning of that oil price crash preceded the great financial collapse that happened later that year by several months. Well, now it is happening again, but this time the stakes are even higher. When the price of oil falls dramatically, that is a sign that economic activity is slowing down. It can also have a tremendously destabilizing affect on financial markets. As you will read about below, energy companies now account for approximately 20 percent of the junk bond market. And a junk bond implosion is usually a signal that a major stock market crash is on the way. So if you are looking for a “canary in the coal mine”, keep your eye on the performance of energy junk bonds. If they begin to collapse, that is a sign that all hell is about to break loose on Wall Street.

It would be difficult to overstate the importance of the shale oil boom to the U.S. economy. Thanks to this boom, the United States has become the largest oil producer on the entire planet.

Yes, the U.S. now actually produces more oil than either Saudi Arabia or Russia. This “revolution” has resulted in the creation of millions of jobs since the last recession, and it has been one of the key factors that has kept the percentage of Americans that are employed fairly stable.

Unfortunately, the shale oil boom is coming to an abrupt end. As a recent Vox article discussed, OPEC has essentially declared a price war on U.S. shale oil producers…

For all intents and purposes, OPEC is now engaged in a “price war” with the United States. What that means is that it’s very cheap to pump oil out of places like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. But it’s more expensive to extract oil from shale formations in places like Texas and North Dakota. So as the price of oil keeps falling, some US producers may become unprofitable and go out of business. The result? Oil prices will stabilize and OPEC maintains its market share.

If the price of oil stays at this level or continues falling, we will see a significant number of U.S. shale oil companies go out of business and large numbers of jobs will be lost. The Saudis know how to play hardball, and they are absolutely ruthless. In fact, we have seen this kind of scenario happen before…

Robert McNally, a White House adviser to former President George W. Bush and president of the Rapidan Group energy consultancy, told Reuters that Saudi Arabia “will accept a price decline necessary to sweat whatever supply cuts are needed to balance the market out of the US shale oil sector.” Even legendary oil man T. Boone Pickens believes Saudi Arabia is in a stand-off with US drillers and frackers to “see how the shale boys are going to stand up to a cheaper price.” This has happened once before. By the mid-1980’s, as oil output from Alaska’s North Slope and the North Sea came on line (combined production of around 5-6 million barrels a day), OPEC set off a price war to compete for market share. As a result, the price of oil sank from around $40 to just under $10 a barrel by 1986.

But the energy sector has been one of the only bright spots for the U.S. economy in recent years. If this sector starts collapsing, it is going to have a dramatic negative impact on our economic outlook. For example, just consider the following numbers from a recent Business Insider article…

Specifically, if prices get too low, then energy companies won’t be able to cover the cost of production in the US. This spending by energy companies, also known as capital expenditures, is responsible for a lot of jobs.

“The Energy sector accounts for roughly one-third of S&P 500 capex and nearly 25% of combined capex and R&D spending,” Goldman Sachs’ Amanda Sneider writes.

Even more troubling is what this could mean for the financial markets.

As I mentioned above, energy companies now account for close to 20 percent of the entire junk bond market. As those companies start to fail and those bonds start to go bad, that is going to hit our major banks really hard…

Everyone could suffer if the collapse triggers a wave of defaults through the high-yield debt market, and in turn, hits stocks. The first to fall: the banks that were last hit by the housing crisis.

Why could that happen?

Well, energy companies make up anywhere from 15 to 20 percent of all U.S. junk debt, according to various sources.

It would be hard to overstate the seriousness of what the markets could potentially be facing.

One analyst summed it up to CNBC this way…

“This is the one thing I’ve seen over and over again,” said Larry McDonald, head of U.S strategy at Newedge USA’s macro group. “When high yield underperforms equity, a major credit event occurs. It’s the canary in the coal mine.“

The last time junk bonds collapsed, a major stock market crash followed fairly rapidly.

And those that were hardest hit were the big Wall Street banks…

During the last high-yield collapse, which centered around debt tied to the housing sector, Citigroup lost 63 percent of its value in the following 60 days, Kensho shows. Bank of America was cut in half.

I understand that some of this information is too technical for a lot of people, but the bottom line is this…

Watch junk bonds. When they start crashing it is a sign that a major stock market collapse is right at the door.

At this point, even the mainstream media is warning about this. Just consider the following excerpt from a recent CNN article…

That swing away from junk bonds often happens shortly before stock market downturns.

“High yield does provide useful sell signals to equity investors,” Barclays analysts concluded in a recent report.

Barclays combed through the past dozen years of data. The warning signal they found is a 30% or greater increase in the spread between Treasuries and junk bonds before a dip.

If you have been waiting for the next major financial collapse, what you have just read in this article indicates that it is now closer than it has ever been.

Over the coming weeks, keep your eye on the price of oil, keep your eye on the junk bond market and keep your eye on the big banks.

Trouble is brewing, and nobody is quite sure exactly what comes next.

Goooh 12-27-2014 06:08 PM

Nice cut and paste, sure fire way to make certain nobody reads it.


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"W" 12-27-2014 06:11 PM

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Nice cut and paste, sure fire way to make certain nobody reads it.


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Here is the website you can google it up

Goooh 12-27-2014 06:22 PM

So the crash in 2008 was due to oil prices?

How about the crash in the 80's? Was it due to oil prices too?


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"W" 12-27-2014 06:32 PM

Late 2008 oil fell to $30 a bbl

And I'm sure you was still in high school but for most of us we lost thousands in the market and 401ks

Also unemployment was at a high

redaddiction 12-27-2014 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 734258)
Late 2008 oil fell to $30 a bbl

And I'm sure you was still in high school but for most of us we lost thousands in the market and 401ks

Also unemployment was at a high



I think what Goooh is trying to say is in 2008 the price of oil fell because of the economy downturn. And not, the economic downturn happened because the price of oil fell. Same thing is happening now. Oil is falling because of low demand around the world because of a global economic slowdown.

Goooh 12-27-2014 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 734258)
Late 2008 oil fell to $30 a bbl

And I'm sure you was still in high school but for most of us we lost thousands in the market and 401ks

Also unemployment was at a high


Wasn't there a housing bubble that burst and some weird things going on with banks too? It wasn't in my history books yet.


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Goooh 12-27-2014 06:47 PM

There is a slow down along with an unusual surplus of oil, the world is producing 92mil bbl/day and consuming 91.

Supply and demand baby




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"W" 12-27-2014 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 734262)
Wasn't there a housing bubble that burst and some weird things going on with banks too? It wasn't in my history books yet.


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Yep and what controls the market ?????



















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High oil prices high market
Low oil prices poor market



High oil prices more jobs
Low oil prices less jobs

Top Dawg 12-27-2014 07:38 PM

Market still pretty high and goin up

"W" 12-27-2014 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 734267)
Market still pretty high and goin up

right now because a lot of people are moving a ton of energy stocks into safe dividend stocks like MSTF, APPLE, and PG..

Moving out of aggressive into sit and hold mode and let Div pay you until energy stocks show some come back

Goooh 12-27-2014 09:00 PM

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High oil prices high market

Low oil prices poor market







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"W" 12-27-2014 09:53 PM

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Good graph but I'm going to size it up better in last 15 years this was were oil made it's climb in history

We never saw $100 bbl oil until 2008 but the climb started in late 2002 or 2003 when we started seeing $50 ,$60 , $70 , 80 and 90 bbl oil

Once we saw this power surge on the oil industry it has become black gold and started having much move power to the market as you see on your chart

The gap closed as oil became the most valued commodity to the US

Goooh 12-27-2014 11:20 PM

Gas prices
 
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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 734290)
Good graph but I'm going to size it up better in last 15 years this was were oil made it's climb in history



We never saw $100 bbl oil until 2008 but the climb started in late 2002 or 2003 when we started seeing $50 ,$60 , $70 , 80 and 90 bbl oil



Once we saw this power surge on the oil industry it has become black gold and started having much move power to the market as you see on your chart



The gap closed as oil became the most valued commodity to the US


Very impressive job cropping that graph, and interpreting it. Did you even read it? We had $100 bbl oil way before 2008, but you cut that part out.

I never knew it got its nick name of "black gold" in the last 15 years


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irokcj5 12-28-2014 12:11 AM

Yeah, Flatt and Scruggs invented Black Gold.��

PUREBAY2200 12-28-2014 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 734298)
Very impressive job cropping that graph, and interpreting it. Did you even read it? We had $100 bbl oil way before 2008, but you cut that part out.

I never knew it got its nick name of "black gold" in the last 15 years


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Hahahaha
W showing off those GED skills with graph reading and history facts!!

Man this thread is Winning!!

PotLikinisAhabbit 12-28-2014 12:59 AM

Goooh got my side hurting lol.

"W" 12-28-2014 07:47 AM

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Very impressive job cropping that graph, and interpreting it. Did you even read it? We had $100 bbl oil way before 2008, but you cut that part out.

I never knew it got its nick name of "black gold" in the last 15 years


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O really please show me where oil has hit over $100bbl before Jan 2008

I have all day Mr oil guru

Lmao

Dude like I said you were i high school when I started in the oil business

"W" 12-28-2014 07:54 AM

HEY GOOO made it real easy for you MR Oil GURU of 2 years

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=1st+time+oil+hit+%24100+a+barrel

"W" 12-28-2014 11:16 AM

Guess I put Gooh and Edwards to rest !!

Edwards one good thing about cheap oil , you can buy your sickers for your truck , ice chest , tackle box lot cheaper now !

Goooh 12-28-2014 11:27 AM

Lmao, hook sets so hard....


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Goooh 12-28-2014 11:30 AM

The best part is W recruited at least 3 people to triple check that graph on his birthday.


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"W" 12-28-2014 11:41 AM

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Lmao, hook sets so hard....


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You mad mad mad

Because I just mad you look full retard


Go play with what ever you play with but when it comes to my job which I deal with oil and gas sales every day
I will make you look stupid

Mr oil hit $100 way before. 2008
Lmao

Goooh 12-28-2014 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 734327)
You mad mad mad



Because I just mad you look full retard





Go play with what ever you play with but when it comes to my job which I deal with oil and gas sales every day

I will make you look stupid



Mr oil hit $100 way before. 2008

Lmao


L M A O, you're a genius


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alphaman 12-28-2014 01:55 PM

1.99 in lafayayette university and I10

Goooh 12-28-2014 02:00 PM

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You mad mad mad



Because I just mad you look full retard





Go play with what ever you play with but when it comes to my job which I deal with oil and gas sales every day

I will make you look stupid



Mr oil hit $100 way before. 2008

Lmao


You don't sell Sh**

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"W" 12-28-2014 02:26 PM

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Lmao, hook sets so hard....


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The best part is W recruited at least 3 people to triple check that graph on his birthday.


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L M A O, you're a genius


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You don't sell Sh**

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You know when you "WON"

Dude keeps making post after post to try and play his stupid off

Lmao
Hey man been waiting for you to show me where oil was $100 before 2008

Com on dude !!!

PUREBAY2200 12-28-2014 02:36 PM

W tell us what part of your job is sales involved?

It's gotta suck to wake up every morning and have to use training steps just to take a piss standing up u little short phuck.
I hope that GED education you have can provide for you when ur *** is let go Bc a robot takes ur job!

Goooh 12-28-2014 02:38 PM

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You know when you "WON"



Dude keeps making post after post to try and play his stupid off



Lmao

Hey man been waiting for you to show me where oil was $100 before 2008



Com on dude !!!


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"W" 12-28-2014 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 734343)
W tell us what part of your job is sales involved?

It's gotta suck to wake up every morning and have to use training steps just to take a piss standing up u little short phuck.
I hope that GED education you have can provide for you when ur *** is let go Bc a robot takes ur job!


I thought the oil dropped to 30$/bbl in 2008 because that's the year edwards boat got repossessed , so between the lack of him purchasing gas to run all over the place to find birds he had marked on his GPS and the sudden halt of sticker purchases ( since the plastic was a product of petroleum) . Edwards single handled screwed us

PUREBAY2200 12-28-2014 02:44 PM

O here we go with more great stories.... Tell me how that happened but I was still fishing in my boat in 2009

Lol
Nice try midget

fishinpox 12-28-2014 02:44 PM

Omg

"W" 12-28-2014 02:45 PM

So Edwards what is your job ?

Sitting in the side lines in under armor cloths the school gives you to act like a coach ?

Lmao !!!

Love how you try to get into conversation about oil and jobs when your a substitute teacher

PUREBAY2200 12-28-2014 02:47 PM

http://www.hireamidget.com/jobs.htm
W put me down as a refrence, I'll put in a good word for Ya!

PUREBAY2200 12-28-2014 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 734348)
So Edwards what is your job ?

Sitting in the side lines in under armor cloths the school gives you to act like a coach ?

Lmao !!!

Love how you try to get into conversation about oil and jobs when your a substitute teacher


Ur right W... U "sail" oil and gas and I'm a substitute teacher.
Lol

Ur knowledge is unlimited.

"W" 12-28-2014 03:00 PM

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