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Smalls 10-28-2015 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cjleger337 (Post 777229)
No its not its number 8 on the list looks like the land in Nat****oches area.

???? Man you lost? Rockefeller is in Cameron. lmao!

meaux fishing 10-28-2015 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cjleger337 (Post 777229)
No its not its number 8 on the list looks like the land in Nat****oches area.

talking bout Rockefeller buddy, not kisatchie

Cjleger337 10-28-2015 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 777217)
Kisatchie being on that list has always confused me. Who the hell is duck hunting in Kisatchie? lmao!

Regardless, that is just the public lands they have done projects on. I don't believe they have only done 27 public land projects, and this list does not include Rockefeller either.

lol, I guess it would pay to finish reading your entire comment, the first time I read it I didnt see a thing about yall talking about Rockefeller.

C-Bass2mouth 10-28-2015 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 777217)
Kisatchie being on that list has always confused me. Who the hell is duck hunting in Kisatchie? lmao!

Regardless, that is just the public lands they have done projects on. I don't believe they have only done 27 public land projects, and this list does not include Rockefeller either.

There are def some people that shoot woodies out there with a lanyard slap full of Duck Commander calls..

jchief 10-28-2015 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Bass2mouth (Post 777239)
There are def some people that shoot woodies out there with a lanyard slap full of Duck Commander calls..

Voice of experience?
















































:rotfl:

boatdriver 10-28-2015 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 777218)
But there is still public hunting opportunity there nonetheless. You have every opportunity to put your name in the drawings, and first time applicants have a better chance than somebody that hunted there last year.

Agreed.

C-Bass2mouth 10-28-2015 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jchief (Post 777240)
Voice of experience?
















































:rotfl:

Well that's usually the starting point for people around here that have just started duck hunting. I would like to know what projects have been done for ducks out there though???

toodeep 10-28-2015 04:42 PM

[QUOTE=AubreyLaHaye458;777080]DU works more in Louisiana than in any other state in the Mississippi Flyway and has spent over $58 million worth of conservation work that has affected over 350,000 acres


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what are they conserving since not near the amount of ducks come down.

AubreyLaHaye458 10-28-2015 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458 (Post 777080)
DU works more in Louisiana than in any other state in the Mississippi Flyway and has spent over $58 million worth of conservation work that has affected over 350,000 acres





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what are they conserving since not near the amount of ducks come down.


Before I begin to answer this question in gonna need you to do a little reading on your own. Meaux posted a map of DU projects in the state not too far back and I listed them early on.


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toodeep 10-28-2015 04:51 PM

DU and CCA are on the same page in my book. you can scream and holler all you want

Top Dawg 10-28-2015 04:55 PM

I'ma go ahead and hunt the "DU project" at sabine and when I get caught i'ma just tell em I saw a map on the internet that said I could hunt it lol.

Feesherman 10-28-2015 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by toodeep (Post 777247)
DU and CCA are on the same page in my book. you can scream and holler all you want

^^^!!!

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AubreyLaHaye458 10-28-2015 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 777248)
I'ma go ahead and hunt the "DU project" at sabine and when I get caught i'ma just tell em I saw a map on the internet that said I could hunt it lol.


Just because it's a DU project doesn't mean it's huntable. DU isn't a duck blind leasing agency. It's a conservation organization. Didn't think I'd have to spell that out for ya


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Top Dawg 10-28-2015 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458 (Post 777253)
Just because it's a DU project doesn't mean it's huntable. DU isn't a duck blind leasing agency. It's a conservation organization. Didn't think I'd have to spell that out for ya


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Just goin by what the map says man.

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MarshRat89 10-28-2015 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458 (Post 777080)
DU works more in Louisiana than in any other state in the Mississippi Flyway and has spent over $58 million worth of conservation work that has affected over 350,000 acres





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what are they conserving since not near the amount of ducks come down.


Funny, we're killing around twice the amount of ducks we were 15 years ago. But the ducks don't migrate down anymore. You know why they killed so may ducks in "the good ole days"? They had areas to rest birds. Now with every section of the Marshes and fields leased up the birds have no choice but to raft up on large lakes and bays. They find ways to adapt to the pressure.
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But Ducks don't come down to Louisiana anymore
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cgoods17 10-28-2015 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by toodeep (Post 777245)


Funny, we're killing around twice the amount of ducks we were 15 years ago. But the ducks don't migrate down anymore. You know why they killed so may ducks in "the good ole days"? They had areas to rest birds. Now with every section of the Marshes and fields leased up the birds have no choice but to raft up on large lakes and bays. They find ways to adapt to the pressure.
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you kill all those grey ducks with that snow goose call?

AubreyLaHaye458 10-28-2015 05:23 PM

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you kill all those grey ducks with that snow goose call?


Shhhhhhhj. Trade secret.


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AubreyLaHaye458 10-28-2015 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 777254)
Just goin by what the map says man.

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Show me on the map where it says "hunting areas" or anything of the sort


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Top Dawg 10-28-2015 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458 (Post 777260)
Show me on the map where it says "hunting areas" or anything of the sort


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Read the map close. "I didn't think I'd have to spell it out for ya"

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AubreyLaHaye458 10-28-2015 05:27 PM

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Read the map close. "I didn't think I'd have to spell it out for ya"

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Put on your glasses


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Top Dawg 10-28-2015 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458 (Post 777263)
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Good u finally see it.

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Smalls 10-28-2015 05:37 PM

The Sabine DU project, at least the one I know of, is not within the huntable area on the refuge. The map is misleading in that regard, and I believe is not suggesting that all DU projects on public land are huntable, merely that they were completed on public lands that are at least in some form or fashion open to hunting.

Top Dawg 10-28-2015 05:39 PM

Thanks for clarifying that Smalls.

Smalls 10-28-2015 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by toodeep (Post 777245)
what are they conserving since not near the amount of ducks come down.

Well, unless Larry is lying, we had 2 million more birds in November 2014 than we had in Nov 2004. I don't know how good Larry's eye sight is, but I would assume good enough to not overestimate by 2 million.

So, yeah, there's that....

Smalls 10-28-2015 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 777268)
Thanks for clarifying that Smalls.

The terraces over around Green's Lake are the DU project. For some reason everyone got big on terraces, and very few of them ever amounted to much. I'm not as familiar with those as I am with some of the other DU terrace projects, but the ones I am familiar with were mildly successful. The area between the terraces did seem to become some what more shallow and less turbid, but no real development of SAVs to speak of. A few areas developed on some, but other than that, nothing. Its been a few years since I've been around some though. Mottled ducks seemed to like them though. Jumped a few off of terraces nesting in the marsh hay that had been planted.

Top Dawg 10-28-2015 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 777270)
The terraces over around Green's Lake are the DU project. For some reason everyone got big on terraces, and very few of them ever amounted to much. I'm not as familiar with those as I am with some of the other DU terrace projects, but the ones I am familiar with were mildly successful. The area between the terraces did seem to become some what more shallow and less turbid, but no real development of SAVs to speak of. A few areas developed on some, but other than that, nothing. Its been a few years since I've been around some though. Mottled ducks seemed to like them though. Jumped a few off of terraces nesting in the marsh hay that had been planted.

Oh I'm aware. I just think some aren't.

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Marque 10-28-2015 05:59 PM

Ive seen and killed more birds in the last two years than any other I have hunted. I'm not that old but I started when I was 7 so I hope that counts for something. But the last two winters were probably the coldest I remember as well. As good as the hunting was, the amount of birds in VBay, Marsh Island, Rockefeller, mind blowing. One morning I drove from the 4 mile to the point and didn't go 30 seconds without scaring up another flock. My brother flys over Marsh Island every day and he said every lake was black with birds. The sanctuaries were packed to the gills. I have to think that hunting pressure plays a bigger role in the mix than everyone would like to admit. High dollar leases are high dollar because they usually don't have 3 other blinds in gun range. Just because there aren't birds where you are hunting doesn't mean there aren't birds down here.

Louisiana has been third in rice production behind Arkansas and California, during my lifetime anyway. Over the years Arkansas has substantially increased its amount of acreage while Louisiana's decreased but that has nothing to do with DU. They could spend their entire budget creating and preserving wetlands in Louisiana but the ducks are never going to see it if they are fat and happy in Arkansas, especially during a mild winter. The last two winters where pretty chilly and I'd classify my last two hunting seasons a excellent to exceptional.

The problem isn't DU. The problem is there are too many hogs for the trough. Organizations like the CCA and DU survive because their members donate. More members means more money. Their survival is dependent upon getting more people to hunt and fish. There all ready too many as it is, thats why I don't have any desire to support either. I realize my point of view is completely selfish but I am not into community hunting and fishing. I am content to be an a$$hole.

youmyboyblue 10-28-2015 06:00 PM

Y'all make my head hurt.

redaddiction 10-28-2015 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Marque (Post 777272)
Ive seen and killed more birds in the last two years than any other I have hunted. I'm not that old but I started when I was 7 so I hope that counts for something. But the last two winters were probably the coldest I remember as well. As good as the hunting was, the amount of birds in VBay, Marsh Island, Rockefeller, mind blowing. One morning I drove from the 4 mile to the point and didn't go 30 seconds without scaring up another flock. My brother flys over Marsh Island every day and he said every lake was black with birds. The sanctuaries were packed to the gills. I have to think that hunting pressure plays a bigger role in the mix than everyone would like to admit. High dollar leases are high dollar because they usually don't have 3 other blinds in gun range. Just because there aren't birds where you are hunting doesn't mean there aren't birds down here.

Louisiana has been third in rice production behind Arkansas and California, during my lifetime anyway. Over the years Arkansas has substantially increased its amount of acreage while Louisiana's decreased but that has nothing to do with DU. They could spend their entire budget creating and preserving wetlands in Louisiana but the ducks are never going to see it if they are fat and happy in Arkansas, especially during a mild winter. The last two winters where pretty chilly and I'd classify my last two hunting seasons a excellent to exceptional.

The problem isn't DU. The problem is there are too many hogs for the trough. Organizations like the CCA and DU survive because their members donate. More members means more money. Their survival is dependent upon getting more people to hunt and fish. There all ready too many as it is, thats why I don't have any desire to support either. I realize my point of view is completely selfish but I am not into community hunting and fishing. I am content to be an a$$hole.


This pretty much covers it all.....Top Dawg and Aubrey, yall can PM each other if you want to keep on going. LOL

BGcoreg 10-28-2015 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MarshRat89 (Post 777210)
I haven't read all the post yet, No sense either. It's just the typical anti DU guys who always get on these post. They come with far fetched rumors, and statements with no facts or data to support them what so ever.

First off DU puts millions into coastal conservation each year. These public coastal projects not only provide wintering grounds for ducks, but also protect the marsh that serves as the vital nursery for all the seafood we love including crabs, shrimp, trout and reds.

DU has stepped up and footed the bill for plenty of these projects where the state has failed to do so. We are losing our Marsh fast!! Point blank if we lose our coastal marsh we lose our way of life.

Let's talk about private land for a second. Yes, DU helps farmers through the rice stewardship program helps private marshland owners install levees and structures to manage water levels. And yes, this typically provides those land owners with substantially better hunting.

What you're missing here is it also provides better hunting for all of us. Point blank without key management of these lands the ducks will find somewhere else to go. By managing these private lands we are holding more birds per acre an area. You think the only one that benefits is that one landowner?? It's proven fact all the hunters surrounding have higher success rates as a result.

But let's jump back to seafood though. Just as public waters serve as vital nurseries for our fish and shrimp, so do many private marshes. Louisiana is 2nd in the nation for fundraising. They would be stupid not to invest back in this state.

This past year 82% of the money raised went directly back to conservation efforts. 3% went to administration and human resource and 15% went to raising all that money.

http://www.ducks.org/media/_global/_...lFactSheet.pdf


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Not testing your knowledge or questioning anything, I'm just curious if you have a link to those coastal marsh projects or maybe where they are working at specifically

BGcoreg 10-28-2015 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 777248)
I'ma go ahead and hunt the "DU project" at sabine and when I get caught i'ma just tell em I saw a map on the internet that said I could hunt it lol.


Do you know where the DU project at Sabine is? Or what it is specifically

MarshRat89 10-28-2015 08:12 PM

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you kill all those grey ducks with that snow goose call?


That's for the spoonies.


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Top Dawg 10-28-2015 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BGcoreg (Post 777286)
Do you know where the DU project at Sabine is? Or what it is specifically

According to the DU website, yes I know where it's at.

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BGcoreg 10-28-2015 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 777289)
According to the DU website, yes I know where it's at.

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I tried to find it, help me out here .

Top Dawg 10-28-2015 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BGcoreg (Post 777290)
I tried to find it, help me out here .

It's west of burton ditch. The terraces

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MarshRat89 10-28-2015 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BGcoreg (Post 777282)
Not testing your knowledge or questioning anything, I'm just curious if you have a link to those coastal marsh projects or maybe where they are working at specifically


I had some work sheets at one point. I'll working on getting a link tomorrow.


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BGcoreg 10-28-2015 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 777291)
It's west of burton ditch. The terraces

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Thanks

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Originally Posted by MarshRat89 (Post 777292)
I had some work sheets at one point. I'll working on getting a link tomorrow.


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And thanks

Spunt Drag 10-28-2015 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marque (Post 777272)
Ive seen and killed more birds in the last two years than any other I have hunted. I'm not that old but I started when I was 7 so I hope that counts for something. But the last two winters were probably the coldest I remember as well. As good as the hunting was, the amount of birds in VBay, Marsh Island, Rockefeller, mind blowing. One morning I drove from the 4 mile to the point and didn't go 30 seconds without scaring up another flock. My brother flys over Marsh Island every day and he said every lake was black with birds. The sanctuaries were packed to the gills. I have to think that hunting pressure plays a bigger role in the mix than everyone would like to admit. High dollar leases are high dollar because they usually don't have 3 other blinds in gun range. Just because there aren't birds where you are hunting doesn't mean there aren't birds down here.

Louisiana has been third in rice production behind Arkansas and California, during my lifetime anyway. Over the years Arkansas has substantially increased its amount of acreage while Louisiana's decreased but that has nothing to do with DU. They could spend their entire budget creating and preserving wetlands in Louisiana but the ducks are never going to see it if they are fat and happy in Arkansas, especially during a mild winter. The last two winters where pretty chilly and I'd classify my last two hunting seasons a excellent to exceptional.

The problem isn't DU. The problem is there are too many hogs for the trough. Organizations like the CCA and DU survive because their members donate. More members means more money. Their survival is dependent upon getting more people to hunt and fish. There all ready too many as it is, thats why I don't have any desire to support either. I realize my point of view is completely selfish but I am not into community hunting and fishing. I am content to be an a$$hole.

30 and 3 or bust.

"W" 10-28-2015 09:13 PM

In other News

Dallas Cowboys lost 4 games straight
Saints are 1 game better than Cowboys
My Bears suck

LSU is beast mode going into Nov 7

I didn't read non of this but figured you guys needed an update

Marque 10-28-2015 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunt Drag (Post 777300)
30 and 3 or bust.

I'm stumped? I even googled it. I went to school in Kaplan, you're gonna have to help me out.

AubreyLaHaye458 10-28-2015 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Marque (Post 777305)
I'm stumped? I even googled it. I went to school in Kaplan, you're gonna have to help me out.


30 day season. 3 duck limit.


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Marque 10-28-2015 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458 (Post 777308)
30 day season. 3 duck limit.


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Ah ha. I think I'd rather go bass fishing.


Here's a question for those of you who keep up with all this $hit. Why is the limit on Specklebelly's only 2? Seems like there are a hell of a lot of them for it to be so low. I know they are really only in this fly way does that have something to do with it?

southLA 10-28-2015 10:07 PM

Perfectly fine with me. Keeps the pressure lower. In regards to the speck limits

Marque 10-28-2015 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by southLA (Post 777311)
Perfectly fine with me. Keeps the pressure lower. In regards to the speck limits

I disagree. Specks are going to want plowed ground or very little water 7 out of 10 times. I don't see all the duck hunters dropping their water for an extra goose or two. 3 specks would be nice. I pretty much set up just for geese, when its just me and a partner sometimes we are done 10 min after we started.

Lake Chuck Duck 10-28-2015 10:24 PM

Dont quote me on this but I believe there was some discussion prior to this season on bringing it up to 3, but it didnt pass.

Marque 10-28-2015 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lake Chuck Duck (Post 777314)
Dont quote me on this but I believe there was some discussion prior to this season on bringing it up to 3, but it didnt pass.

Sometimes you eat the bar, sometimes the bar eats you.

ScubaLatt 10-28-2015 11:00 PM

True or False:

Louisiana harvests more ducks annually than all of Canada?

Go...

Top Dawg 10-28-2015 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marque (Post 777310)
Ah ha. I think I'd rather go bass fishing.


Here's a question for those of you who keep up with all this $hit. Why is the limit on Specklebelly's only 2? Seems like there are a hell of a lot of them for it to be so low. I know they are really only in this fly way does that have something to do with it?

Because our greedy, crooked commission would rather go against the ppl of our state. Arkansas and Missouri will both have 3 speck limits this year. And actually California winters tons of specks and their seasons and limits are VERY liberal. On ducks also.

B-Stealth 10-28-2015 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ScubaLatt (Post 777318)
True or False:

Louisiana harvests more ducks annually than all of Canada?

Go...

California

B-Stealth 10-29-2015 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScubaLatt (Post 777318)
True or False:

Louisiana harvests more ducks annually than all of Canada?

Go...

Louisiana, looks like we smoke down about 1,000,000 more birds than the Canadians.
2012-2013 Season
Louisiana about 2.3million
Canada about 1 million

But I don't have much faith in the Canada vs La numbers or any harvest data for that matter.

If I read the harvest data correctly:
1-Louisiana
2-California
3-Arkansas
4-Texas

Source:
https://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/p...and2013-14.pdf


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