Pot smokers be angry!!

Closed by original posters request.

I was finally able to read some of the content, in between naps of course, no offense MG.....

The thread is open again, easy on the personal attacks.

I am not Mathgeek's wife. Most southern gentlemen would say that "Miss" refers to a single woman.

It was AceArcher who referred to the phrase "aim small miss small" in post 62, not MG. The origin of my handle was from the movie "The Patriot".

In post 141, Clampy had a link to a page that supposedly had "evidence" of "Negligible consequences of using marijuana when pregnant."

Earlier in this thread, the lack of scientific support for pot regulation was noted multiple times. I have posted 7 quotes directly from scientific papers... not too much when you think about the number of replies in this thread. A respectful discussion can include scientific sources, personal experience, and whatever other contributions others may have to the conversation.

Here is 3 rebuttals to my " highly educated & better witted " friend
Hawgsquatch

Humbolt growers don't want legal weed because they would be out of biz. All the problems you listed are directly prohibition related. If they didn't have to hide in the forest and run from law enforcement They wouldn't have to carry guns and make pollution. Every other legal business is highly regulated why wouldn't the cannabis industry.


http://www.examiner.com/article/top-...a-dispensaries

Shame on these parents for abusing there son. The kid literally beats himself into walls and cannabis is the only thing that works. It's ABUSE not to give the kid the medicine.


http://www.kptv.com/story/20660400/m...-manage-autism



Down from 300 seizures a week to just 1
Abuse ?

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3734283

Uhh. Duh. Are these seriously your arguments to put adults in cages ?

No one is advocating pot use while pregnant. Those scientific papers you site or from an addiction centers of course drugs are bad. They need biz.

Try again smalls

Good, time for church.

Thought he was making fun until he started spitting scriptures, lmao

http://youtu.be/C-uftiQAODc

You are right, but in my defense I had been up for about 30 hours and was super stoned when I posted.

You guys may want to be more careful before posting material that might provide probable cause of drug use to enforcement agencies inclined to search homes and vehicles for contraband and to revoke business licenses for such things. Your IP addresses and real identities are likely easily discovered unless you are taking active steps (ie: tor, proxy servers) to preserve your privacy.

I haven't followed up every citation, but some of the material being discussed in support of dangers of cannabis has been published by the Lancet, New England Journal of Medicine, and the National Academy of Sciences.

My wife definitely supports my efforts in this discussion, providing many insights and scientific views, but alas, the Harvard PhD has not rolled up her sleeves and personally joined the discussion. "SaltyCajun" is often too "Salty" for her, but she enjoys vicarious participation through me and meeting folks at Calcasieu Point.

I am surprised that the forum which has appreciated scientific pastes and input in threads regarding the 15 trout limit in Big Lake, the overharvesting of oysters in Big Lake, and red snapper and tripletail discussions suddenly seem to be balking at a little science when the subject is drug legalization.

LMAO

All I got out of this whole thread is



PotHeads MaD!!!

Little FYI ; smoking is bad for you know matter what it is!!

You're missing the point ?
Just because something is dangerous gives no one the right to put you in cage for just having it in your pocket.
Football is dangerous
Drinking too much water can kill you.

The fact is a majority of people have smoked weed in there lives and know from experience its nothing when compared to everything else out there. Most people would like to have at least the option for something a little safer.

MG,

First off I don't smoke lot, and there are people on this site that will attest to that. I am a supporter of civil liberty, whether it benefits and opposing legislation that infringes on those rights, whether they benefit me or not. You can't claim to be for those same things, then pick and chose the things that benefit you. Liberty and Justice for ALL, not just devout Christians.

Secondly, you started bringing religion, morality, scripture, and theoretical statements into the discussion.

Lastly, lighten up a little bit. I was joking about being stoned.

Big government and the NSA already haveall this information, don't think for one minute they don't.

Libertarian-ism is about SMALL GOVERNMENT and GETTING OUT OF PEOPLE'S LIVES. Let people do what they want with their lives, not be dictated by laws that overreach the boundaries of personal freedom.

If anyone on this website really wanted small government and more personal freedoms (what I read many times during the last election AND things that are discussed regularly), you'd have voted libertarian.

Btw - I am a Christian, raised in the church, homeschooled until 4th grade and spent the rest of my schooling in an Assembly of God. So don't jump to conclusions and start a charge to save my soul, I may just be wearing a nice outfit to the wedding than you my friend...

I think if your caught with weed it should be 5 year prison sentence 2nd time 15 years and 3rd time life


This will cut the pot going to kids and schools real quick

Here we go....

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LSU wouldn't have a college program then

or football team:rotfl:

I feel that way about driving drunk. Extreme? Yep

Do you ever drink and drive? If so don't throw stones in your glass house.

I've seen you post on here and facebook about being tired of paying for other people to live. I am asking you now, ARE YOU F*CKING SERIOUS?? You'd be paying to keep millions more alive in prison on your dollar. Your taxes would go up just to keep the prisoners fed, which would be millions upon millions.


Less money for you to spend! Still stand by your statement?

Like Casey said, same thing should be given to underage drinkers and people who drive drunk, public intoxication should carry a heavier fine as well as open container in vehicle, if that's truly your stance waltrip.



Can't tell if your post was serious or a huge troll attempt.

Some scientific papers show that driving while "high" or "stoned" on cannabis is comparable to a blood alcohol level from 0.07% to 0.1% (0.08% is the legal limit for drunk driving).

And the effects of cannabis and alcohol are approximately additive. Driving with a blood alcohol level of 0.1% + being high on cannabis amounts to an impairment comparable to a blood alcohol level of 0.17% to 0.2%.

My wife recently got some boating training from the Coast Guard. She tells me that since dual impairment (booze + drugs) is so commonly encountered, if anyone on the boat appears impaired, they will board and do a thorough search for illegal drugs (and if it's the coasties, you are on federal turf, and the coasties have tremendous search and seizure powers in comparison with other law enforcement.)

Got anything quantifying "stoned"?

What strain if pit was smoked? How long was it held in? How much was smoked? Was it consumed through a simple smoke or a mind blowing bong hit? How long after the time was the test done? How often did the person in the test smoke? We're they a veteran, or did they just smoke for the first time? How old were they? Did they have big lungs or small? Athlete or not? How long had they been awake? Was the person they compared to a veteran drinker? We're they drinking shots of whiskey or just beer? Or both?

Mathgeek your sense of being entitled to some warped double standard is outrageous.

I have given you more than sufficient links to both scientific studies as well as varying news source discussion on this matter (with a variety of sources spanning from such liberal pundits as Fox news, to the cato institute to published british & israeli papers on subject.)

Why are you surprised that this forum has gained a lack of appreciation for your scientific method. You went from providing sound discussion on the subject matters of triple tail, specks... etc... To your current posting which has been a catch all of biblical "proof" - mixed with links from HIGHLY biased sites. Here at the very tail end of the discussion, you have FINALLY offered a few link on a few studies that are marginally non biased. Yet you offered NO comment on the many articles, which were vetted and UNBIASED...

If your mind is not open to the possibility that your current position may need to be re-evaluated. Why should anyone else's in this discussion be open to change from you?

You have complained that others have been rude and made personal attacks on you. As best as i can tell it's actually you initiated making continued personal jibe's and attacks at others when it was not needed. In point of fact clampy even said something that could possibly have been construded as rude, and I kindly asked him not to take the discussion in that direction. He then did the right thing and publicly apologized to you. Rather than accept this you questioned his thinking, his motives, and whether he should even be "allowed" to have a discussion with the like's of you.

I posted a personal situation, to illustrate a point about the potential impact to me and my family that some medicinal use of the drugs contained in cannabis could have. I ASKED you in the MOST POSSIBLE professional way, to PLEASE not refer to my personal situation in any responses and reasoning that you might have.

Rather than respect my reasonable request, you stated something along the lines of "well if it were me and i were to love my mother (and I do) i would move her somewhere where i could access this lifesafing drug"

I found that statement INCREDIBLY rude and obviously it was intentionally meant to be rude on your part. You suggesting that i must not "love" my mother, you suggesting that in order for my mother to live a healthy life with all possible medical supports she should pack her bags.

That conduct is unacceptable, it's reminiscent of a child's temper tantrum when things are not going there way. One in which the child when things are going badly lashes out in every direction regardless.

It's rough equal would be, if i were to tell you, that it's nice that your wife wasted all her daddy's money to get her Harvard PHD, but since she never had to stand on her own to feet she wouldn't understand and / or even comprehend the discussion in front of her.

That statement would be unacceptable as well, seeing as I do not know you, your wife, her educational history, and / or her abilty to be self sufficient and comprehend a discussion. But If i made that statement it would roughly be equal to what you said about my mother. We would just need to add in the sadness of your wife is dying from a disease that can only effectively be treated / possibly reversed by the medicines contained in Cannabidoids.

FOR YOU TO OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND TALK ABOUT MY MOTHER WHEN YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE SITUATION IS UNACCEPTABLE. And really at the very least is deserving of an apology.

Based on your previous conduct in this thread, I don't expect that I will get one. Rather i think that you will think it's appropriate for you to continue with the Diahrrea coming out of your over=educated excuse for a brain. As you continue with that i suggest you reflect on exactly how effective your "browbeatings" have been.

There is an enourmous difference between educating / teaching, and insulting / lecturing. No one here is a "Student" of yours (well perhaps "W" has placed you on that pedestal). But until common courtesy, and full devotion to ALL the scientific studies return to how you choose to conduct youself, I doubt that you will find many more willing students.

Good day Sir, I am glad that you have shown me your "Character"

W... your talking about the current 3 strikes your out rules dude.... why do you think prisons are full to overflowing with nonviolent drug users. While violent person on person crimes are often plea bargained down?

I dont drink and drive ( have I in the past) yes, never caught or DWI

Alcohol was harder to get in school than pot and it was legal. Drug dealers don't card.

Pot = sensitive people drug!!


Lmao!!!! Just dont do it or sell it to kids and you have nothing to worry about??

I for the life of me, will never understand why a person (grown adult) would want to support the legalization of drugs


Never thought in my lifetime this would even be a topic of discussion. I never used a drug in my life and never plan on it. I live a very successful life with out it.

You never drink beer in your boat?:cool:

Maybe to help their parent not die of self imposed starvation from alzheimers....

Nah... couldn't be that... i'm just a pothead stoner who can't form a complete sentence..

wait.

didn't i say in an earlier post that i don't use the stuff.. Heck i barely ever even drink a beer.


NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'm just an oversensitive stoner DUUUUUUUUUUUUDE********>

I mean really there needs to be a new good stoner movie.. we really need to get some new stoner related catch phrases... Dude, and Stoner, and MAN... have seen far to much use in this function.

Of course not you silly pilgrim! and even if he did... don't you know thats not a drug?

Are you aware that alcohol, nicotine and caffeine are drugs?

This isn't a discussion about making it legal to sell heroin and crack at Walgreens (although adderall is legal and prescribed to children, and it's basically meth), it's about legalizing an herb that is harmless compared to the 8 oz lime a Rita's you love so much.

I never thought that so many grown men could be scare into thinking that something is so harmful, yet they have little evidence to prove it and turn a blind eye to the drugs they love so dearly - talk about embarrassing.

Here's an idea... let me respond to this the way that MG would if he were to disagree with you W.

The reasons "W" that you can't for the life of you "comprehend" why a grown adult would want to legalize weed.

#1 You are sorely lacking in the critical thinking skills and analytic abilities needed to review studies published in various scientific and medical journals.

#2 If you been educated at Princeton, Harvard and Yale like I and the good wife have been. Those curriculae's first order of business would have been to relieve you of your "short man" syndrome, and your mind would have then been able to accept some small portion of what I have learned and know to be unimpeachable fact.

#3 Additionally although i do know that you took some time to reference some very valid studies on this matter, I don't think they merit any discussion by someone as obviously intelligent as myself.

please note that my Alter / Ego MissAimsSmallMissesSmall also agrees with me in every thing i do and say, She's is not quite as intelligent as me, however she is much more brilliant than any of you.


So go eat some cake "W" , do let the knowledgeable folks continue this discussion.

Oh and forgot to mention;

#4 As is said in the good book Thisisn'tapplicabletothisdiscussionicles 19:12 and god spoke and he said "You shall not listen to anyone other than Mathgeek, and of course his Harvard Educated wife!"

Would you want a guy in your company smoking weed? Would you allow him to smoke weed? Would you trust his judgment skills? ( Hey Dude whats up)


LMAO, im old school i guess and dont think weed should be legal in any aspect of the term!!

Newsflash... probably half the guys in your company do smoke weed, in addition half of the other half are probably abusing medically prescribed opitates.. .... but they are like.... well sorta really safe duuuuude...

in retrospect the percentages are probably reversed.. prob half are on prescribed opiates, and half of the other half are dope fiends who live such henious lives... you have not even figured out that they smoke occassionally.

Would you trust your company if anyone drank alcohol or pops pills? :help:

I would say Zero at my company is on weed!!! If they are they must get by DOT drug test plus hair samples

And im sure there is no magic pill to get past that!!

No but there is a magic shampoo.

Bwahahahahaha! What fantasy world do you live in:rotfl:


And NO ONE iin the oilfield smokes weed or meth:rotfl:



and why didn't you answer the question about drinking on your boat?:cool: Its just as illegal

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Im sure every one of you would love to see your daughters (or sons) doing this

W, do you ever drink beer on your boat?

1st off my company don't cover the "oil field"

And we have a real strict drug policy and we have had guys in passed caught but I put my career on it...your not getting passed our drug screens
So next question?


I dont drink in my boat at all

100 of people will tell you they never ever seen me drinking and driving a boat!!! Never

Next Question??

OMG young girls made the unbelievably bad decision of smoking something not as harmful as alcohol,cigarrettes, or possibly toothpaste.

It's such a shame that they are destined now to become meth addicts, whores, and generally shameful people. It's just to bad that they won't be able to form a coherent thought anymore. If only we could do something about it like legalize the product, regulate it, Thereby taking the money out of the black market which provides it to underage girls.... ahhhhh if only if only we could do that... but alas those things are impossibru!!!!

WoW Parent of the year=^


Rather see kids smoke weed than drink beer!! You need a great Adult Parent award!!!

I have an idea! Let's register all of the drug users like sex offenders. It would be voluntary. Registrants would give up the right to vote, own guns, social security and medicaid, food stamps and any other public assistance. They don't need drivers licences and they are intelligible for treatment at Emergency Rooms unless they have their own privately owned insurance. Emergency respondents would be allowed to refuse them service. They would also be required to purchase their own liability insurance to be employed in any manner. In exchange they get complete immunity from any drug prosecution ever and free drugs supplied by the guvmet. Anyone currently in prison on drug charges could get out by registering. Failure to maintain a registration status once started would make the registrant subject to be hunted down for a bounty. Commission of any crime while a registrant (including failure to register) would be a mandatory capital sentence, and registrants would waive their constitutional rights to a jury trial. All trials and execution of sentence would be carried out by tribunal within thirty days of arrest. Anyone requesting commutation of a capital sentence could automatically receive such commutation by forfeiting US citizenship. They would then be "contracted" out to other countries as laborers, etc. The drug problem in this country would solve itself in ninety days.

This is a big government solution and I am in no way serious about it but I wonder how many drug addicts would sign right up?

You realize alcohol is a drug right? And the comment about drinking in your boat is BS. I remember a report you posted a while back. Said you got your limit or trout now you were working on your limit of these...and you had a pic of a salty grub on a jighead hooked to a miller light can.

Do ut fir alcohol too... Oh, wait. That might impact you, never mind.