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Ducktrickster 04-11-2014 08:51 AM

Is it possible to assemble a fishing rod where none of the components are foreign? I know at least some of the batson blanks are made in China.

BuckingFastard 04-11-2014 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducktrickster (Post 680041)
Is it possible to assemble a fishing rod where none of the components are foreign? I know at least some of the batson blanks are made in China.

agreed

Montauk17 04-11-2014 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducktrickster (Post 680041)
Is it possible to assemble a fishing rod where none of the components are foreign? I know at least some of the batson blanks are made in China.

Kistler KLX

BuckingFastard 04-11-2014 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Montauk17 (Post 680082)
Kistler KLX

nice, i wonder if they have any local shops that sell them....

bayouchub 04-11-2014 10:56 AM

They are sold directly thru kistler to keep price down. Best rod out there by a long shot in the $150-$200 price range.

MathGeek 04-11-2014 11:02 AM

Owning two American made trucks (a Ford and a Chevy) cured me of patriotic notions related to buying American. Getting half the service life for the same money is a bad deal. We've owned five Honda's now (three still in service), and I firmly believe that capitalism better serves US interests than buying American when American quality is sub-standard.

As far as rods go, I'm a dedicated Ugly Stik customer. We own at least a dozen and my first Ugly Stik (a birthday present in 2004 or 2005) is still in service. We like them because they last a long time and are hard to break even when seeing heavy use and hard service. Our main techniques are trolling and bait fishing, so weight and sensitivity are not as important to me as durability.

I've moved away from Shakespeare reels (to Shimano) due to durability issues. I've also moved from American made braids to Power Pro for quality reasons. Without doubt, Seaguar (Japanese) makes the highest quality fluorocarbon leader materials. But there is little need for fluorocarbon leaders in most LA waters due to the lack of clarity, so we've switched back to regular mono due to price concerns. We retie leaders frequently to maintain knot strength, so we use a lot of material.

Without doubt, the US still makes the best bullets, but my daughter recently switched to Lapua bullets due to lack of availability of US bullets. A few years back, we switched to Lapua brass because it is so far superior to US brass. No one in the family wants to buy a gun in a cartridge for which Lapua doesn't offer brass. Rem, Win, and Fed brass have all gone down hill quickly since 2000.

Buying American is not patriotic when it rewards poor quality. The free market is at its best when high quality is rewarded and poor quality is run out of business (or forced to improve).

BuckingFastard 04-11-2014 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 680098)
Owning two American made trucks (a Ford and a Chevy) cured me of patriotic notions related to buying American. Getting half the service life for the same money is a bad deal. We've owned five Honda's now (three still in service), and I firmly believe that capitalism better serves US interests than buying American when American quality is sub-standard.

As far as rods go, I'm a dedicated Ugly Stik customer. We own at least a dozen and my first Ugly Stik (a birthday present in 2004 or 2005) is still in service. We like them because they last a long time and are hard to break even when seeing heavy use and hard service. Our main techniques are trolling and bait fishing, so weight and sensitivity are not as important to me as durability.

I've moved away from Shakespeare reels (to Shimano) due to durability issues. I've also moved from American made braids to Power Pro for quality reasons. Without doubt, Seaguar (Japanese) makes the highest quality fluorocarbon leader materials. But there is little need for fluorocarbon leaders in most LA waters due to the lack of clarity, so we've switched back to regular mono due to price concerns. We retie leaders frequently to maintain knot strength, so we use a lot of material.

Without doubt, the US still makes the best bullets, but my daughter recently switched to Lapua bullets due to lack of availability of US bullets. A few years back, we switched to Lapua brass because it is so far superior to US brass. No one in the family wants to buy a gun in a cartridge for which Lapua doesn't offer brass. Rem, Win, and Fed brass have all gone down hill quickly since 2000.

Buying American is not patriotic when it rewards poor quality. The free market is at its best when high quality is rewarded and poor quality is run out of business (or forced to improve).

yea i drive a nissan and would only buy a ford if i went domestic. (bailout)... but on a small scale like rods and such, i prefer to go to the small guy and local if possible.

Ratdog 04-11-2014 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 680098)
Owning two American made trucks (a Ford and a Chevy) cured me of patriotic notions related to buying American. Getting half the service life for the same money is a bad deal. We've owned five Honda's now (three still in service), and I firmly believe that capitalism better serves US interests than buying American when American quality is sub-standard.

As far as rods go, I'm a dedicated Ugly Stik customer. We own at least a dozen and my first Ugly Stik (a birthday present in 2004 or 2005) is still in service. We like them because they last a long time and are hard to break even when seeing heavy use and hard service. Our main techniques are trolling and bait fishing, so weight and sensitivity are not as important to me as durability.

I've moved away from Shakespeare reels (to Shimano) due to durability issues. I've also moved from American made braids to Power Pro for quality reasons. Without doubt, Seaguar (Japanese) makes the highest quality fluorocarbon leader materials. But there is little need for fluorocarbon leaders in most LA waters due to the lack of clarity, so we've switched back to regular mono due to price concerns. We retie leaders frequently to maintain knot strength, so we use a lot of material.

Without doubt, the US still makes the best bullets, but my daughter recently switched to Lapua bullets due to lack of availability of US bullets. A few years back, we switched to Lapua brass because it is so far superior to US brass. No one in the family wants to buy a gun in a cartridge for which Lapua doesn't offer brass. Rem, Win, and Fed brass have all gone down hill quickly since 2000.

Buying American is not patriotic when it rewards poor quality. The free market is at its best when high quality is rewarded and poor quality is run out of business (or forced to improve).

Well said but I need to add that I read about Duce rods. I understand they have a new factory location that was in broussard la. .
I too use quite a few forien made items. But when I can buy US things that are well made or put together here I do.
Subaru TriBeCa ,made in il.
Crawfish from local production.
I'm 45 and have had a Mazda ,ford,Subaru ,gmc,chevy ,vw,and all had there issues.
The best tea I drink comes from china, about 15 grand worth now.
Some of the best old world tech. For several items I use are forien.
My coffee 3 grand so fare I get from Kenya .
But all said I believe in home grown business the small kind. If they all get killed off then the quality of things we all need and use will be out of our hands. And to believe that I can help an on tree pur newer by getting a item wether good or as this thread suggests crap. I will buy it and asses its worth my self. And to me if I place whatever , need, nostalgia , patrotic ,support ,or what ever angel I look at it. That me. But I just can't stand watching as a co.'s credibility ,reputation,and product are trashed. Doing that is not the right way to go about it.
I guess the big question here is does anyone really want to see Duce rods go away.
I for one don't and hope that any small co.in south Louisiana struggling to survive does we need them
It just seems from this thread that some thik we could with out them.
I still say it would be nice to get a custom rod and them that got a rod and broke it then might it not be a good idea to put out and get a bigger stronger rod.and have the option to have it made stronger as u get what u pay for...right.
I have bean known to use a wrench as a hammer.and I equate this to a light action pole to land a 35ld red. I have also broken hevey rods with braid on snags. It's all up to the user. And it was not Duce that broke the rods.its the individule useing it.and then they come here like they think it's Duce fault.
Says a lot about how people think.and I just don't understand.sorry but I remember every rod I broke. It's a shocking thing but I also rember what I did to brake it . It was my dissing to take that action and put my rod in a situation that I knew would result in its death. If you bought a duc rod and you broke it it's not Duce fault. Get over it.
Now if the rod you bought just fell apart and it was becouse it had a defect.i understand refund but it's more than likely not Duce fauld it fell apart. Not that I am saying no one to blame but yes the people that built it not the co.s fault the workers. So yes a refund from them or replacement. But don't take down the co keep it alive .

Dang sorry guys I'm not all hear right now I hope I got across my thoughts but right now it's hard to think. Got a broke tooth and my orajell is running low.

I'm just pissed that what for all said Duce is a good co. Custom rods and all. It seems that that point is not comming threw. Only issues with people that work there.

Dang I got more to say but it looks like I better stop I just can't seem to get out whati want to say.

Ducktrickster 04-11-2014 01:27 PM

Duce Rods
143 Industrial Pkwy, Lafayette, LA 70508
(337) 889-3351


Call them or swing by the office. I'm sure they can give you the most accurate information.

BuckingFastard 04-11-2014 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducktrickster (Post 680136)
Duce Rods
143 Industrial Pkwy, Lafayette, LA 70508
(337) 889-3351


Call them or swing by the office. I'm sure they can give you the most accurate information.

hahaha perfect

Ratdog 04-11-2014 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducktrickster (Post 680136)
Duce Rods
143 Industrial Pkwy, Lafayette, LA 70508
(337) 889-3351


Call them or swing by the office. I'm sure they can give you the most accurate information.

Broussard I thought.
New factory.
Face book works but web sight down.

Ratdog 04-11-2014 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckingFastard (Post 680141)
hahaha perfect

No answer left message

BuckingFastard 04-11-2014 01:51 PM

dang

Goooh 04-11-2014 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ratdog (Post 680145)
No answer left message


On par

BIG RED 1983 04-11-2014 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ratdog (Post 680121)
Well said but I need to add that I read about Duce rods. I understand they have a new factory location that was in broussard la. .
I too use quite a few forien made items. But when I can buy US things that are well made or put together here I do.
Subaru TriBeCa ,made in il.
Crawfish from local production.
I'm 45 and have had a Mazda ,ford,Subaru ,gmc,chevy ,vw,and all had there issues.
The best tea I drink comes from china, about 15 grand worth now.
Some of the best old world tech. For several items I use are forien.
My coffee 3 grand so fare I get from Kenya .
But all said I believe in home grown business the small kind. If they all get killed off then the quality of things we all need and use will be out of our hands. And to believe that I can help an on tree pur newer by getting a item wether good or as this thread suggests crap. I will buy it and asses its worth my self. And to me if I place whatever , need, nostalgia , patrotic ,support ,or what ever angel I look at it. That me. But I just can't stand watching as a co.'s credibility ,reputation,and product are trashed. Doing that is not the right way to go about it.
I guess the big question here is does anyone really want to see Duce rods go away.
I for one don't and hope that any small co.in south Louisiana struggling to survive does we need them
It just seems from this thread that some thik we could with out them.
I still say it would be nice to get a custom rod and them that got a rod and broke it then might it not be a good idea to put out and get a bigger stronger rod.and have the option to have it made stronger as u get what u pay for...right.
I have bean known to use a wrench as a hammer.and I equate this to a light action pole to land a 35ld red. I have also broken hevey rods with braid on snags. It's all up to the user. And it was not Duce that broke the rods.its the individule useing it.and then they come here like they think it's Duce fault.
Says a lot about how people think.and I just don't understand.sorry but I remember every rod I broke. It's a shocking thing but I also rember what I did to brake it . It was my dissing to take that action and put my rod in a situation that I knew would result in its death. If you bought a duc rod and you broke it it's not Duce fault. Get over it.
Now if the rod you bought just fell apart and it was becouse it had a defect.i understand refund but it's more than likely not Duce fauld it fell apart. Not that I am saying no one to blame but yes the people that built it not the co.s fault the workers. So yes a refund from them or replacement. But don't take down the co keep it alive .

Dang sorry guys I'm not all hear right now I hope I got across my thoughts but right now it's hard to think. Got a broke tooth and my orajell is running low.

I'm just pissed that what for all said Duce is a good co. Custom rods and all. It seems that that point is not comming threw. Only issues with people that work there.

Dang I got more to say but it looks like I better stop I just can't seem to get out whati want to say.

I don't think the rods were custom what they had in stock is what they had they would not build you a rod to your specifications like jchief and I don't think the rods were lacking just their customer service if you can post on sc all of the fun stuff your doing then why could they not keep up with the customer service and they should change the name cause Duce has a bad rep for customer service going to take a lot to wash it away

jldsc 04-11-2014 02:38 PM

Did ratdog just have a multi paragraph conversation with mathgeek!!! ***!!???


Sent from an Apple Tree..

BIG RED 1983 04-11-2014 02:42 PM

I think so

MathGeek 04-11-2014 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jldsc (Post 680155)
Did ratdog just have a multi paragraph conversation with mathgeek!!! ***!!???

Holding that big black drum, ratdog must be my brother from another mother!

Ratdog 04-11-2014 04:58 PM

What is da paragraph


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