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"W" 07-09-2014 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OnePunchRex (Post 705470)
You haven't learned by now that W is all talk, no action??? He knows everything about everything and is smarter than everyone, just lacks the male parts to actually do anything.

I did not see you there

O wait your the internet guy who hides !! Man your boy Adams was there waiting for you !!
Said we could watch

duckman1911 07-09-2014 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tjethro85 (Post 705469)
So, from what I'm gathering, they held a meeting just to hold one? Is anything being accomplished?

From what I gather that's what they do. They hold meetings so they can say they did. No different from DU or N W T F. Just a bunch of working people paying dues to some BS club that claims to care about their concerns. Reallity is a bunch of people paying dues to fund elaborate fishing and hunting trips for the higher ups.

LAfins 07-09-2014 09:52 PM

Left before they got to the oyster part of it. Everything before that was a waste if time.

"W" 07-09-2014 09:52 PM

Love this


We can get a 25 to 15 trout reduction with zero science
Triple limits with zero science

But can't stop oyster dredging with tons of science and data ??

Kind of like our president runs things

duckman1911 07-09-2014 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 705473)
I did not see you there

O wait your the internet guy who hides !! Man your boy Adams was there waiting for you !!
Said we could watch

Burn.....

T-TOP 07-09-2014 10:00 PM

Oyster graph plainly states the oysters are suffering since dredging started. The guy there was wl&f. It take legislature to change oyster regs.


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fishwater 07-09-2014 10:05 PM

I should have kept going west and gone to the camp rather than sit through that. Head cca guy said there was definite data from Mississippi but could not say where is was published. The oyster discussion was the best part imo. I took it that the game wardens just ticket for over fishing, if I get caught over the limit they can take my boat and license but not oystermen?

noodle creek 07-09-2014 10:09 PM

Who was who in there?

Oh and they admitted when limit changed in 05 that the trout populations were perfectly fine, and that it was a social issue.

jlincecum 07-09-2014 10:10 PM

its gonna take a few days for my blood pressure to come down. Did I actually call the COE lady stupid or did it just come across like that? all kinda fuzzy.

CPR and weirs big plan is to just wait on rain because anything else would takes years of planning and red tape, plus they dont own anything they just consult the "committee" pretty sure Chuck said that 68 times

Oysters - there is no way that map with the sonar'd "reef" areas is up to date.

fishwater 07-09-2014 10:12 PM

Whoever the guy that said I didn't come in here with a belt buckle on and and a cowboy hat I am not from Texas haha. He had a lot of good points

jchief 07-09-2014 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jlincecum (Post 705487)
its gonna take a few days for my blood pressure to come down. Did I actually call the COE lady stupid or did it just come across like that? all kinda fuzzy.



CPR and weirs big plan is to just wait on rain because anything else would takes years of planning and red tape, plus they dont own anything they just consult the "committee" pretty sure Chuck said that 68 times



Oysters - there is no way that map with the sonar'd "reef" areas is up to date.







Yes you did. LOL



I was the guy in the blue FD tshirt that asked about the commission minimum sack limit and the Washout growing so much.

neus 07-09-2014 10:17 PM

Yea, I liked the "I'm not from Texas guy". Educated and well spoken.

"W" 07-09-2014 10:25 PM

I like the map that the guy said of we take away the marsh and just leave land this is what we have

Hell my camp is not even on solid land it's on floating water as per those magic maps they all use

MathGeek 07-09-2014 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fishwater (Post 705484)
Head cca guy said there was definite data from Mississippi but could not say where is was published.

The triple tail data from Mississippi has not been published or peer reviewed, thus it was only hear-say from the CCA rep who represented it to LWC. And the data on triple tail was life history data from Mississippi waters. There were no life history data or stock assessments from Louisiana waters at all.

We wrote to LWC pointing out that there is available data on triple tail in Louisiana waters (collected by NOAA and other federal groups) and asking them whether the stock data from Louisiana supported imposing the limits. We received no response, and by all appearances, the data from Louisiana waters was not considered.

This is a great example of CCA claiming that their management positions have scientific support, when they do not.

Would it make sense to manage the Louisiana deer herd based on Mississippi data?

Reggoh 07-09-2014 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 705477)
Love this


We can get a 25 to 15 trout reduction with zero science
Triple limits with zero science

But can't stop oyster dredging with tons of science and data ??

Kind of like our president runs things


They did admit the 25-15 reduction was not based on the science... He said the fishery was in good condition.

David Cresson said the Tripletail limit was based on the studies of 1 man (i think Dr Harris) who is the premier guru on the subject. Based on his recommendations CCA petitioned for the change and it was passed.

There seemed to be a big push about the oysters. Its possible something positive could come from this meeting in that regard. Specifically with adding back habitat in the form of limestone/concrete/shells. Another part of the oyster issue that was stressed was the leasing. Good points made there.


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MathGeek 07-09-2014 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by noodle creek (Post 705486)
Who was who in there?

Oh and they admitted when limit changed in 05 that the trout populations were perfectly fine, and that it was a social issue.

Good to have 'em on record on that.

MathGeek 07-09-2014 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by T-TOP (Post 705482)
Oyster graph plainly states the oysters are suffering since dredging started. The guy there was wl&f. It take legislature to change oyster regs.


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Do you happen to remember if the graph included 2014 data?

jlincecum 07-09-2014 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 705498)
Do you happen to remember if the graph included 2014 data?


had some but wasn't complete. had their stock estimates

MathGeek 07-09-2014 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jlincecum (Post 705499)
had some but wasn't complete. had their stock estimates

Awesome, thanks.

Tjethro85 07-09-2014 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by noodle creek (Post 705486)
Who was who in there?

Oh and they admitted when limit changed in 05 that the trout populations were perfectly fine, and that it was a social issue.

If it's a social issue then it would benefit someone/something. Who/what the hell is benefitting from it?


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