You gotta point here.....and that is why invasive governmental bans on thought and activity should be resisted.

Lol i have little doubt that between all of our collective stubborness we will at least get to 420... probably much much further.

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Darnit we need a like button on this forum!!!!!

This was the best comment on the thread so far. Hands down.

I never thought I would get hooked........

Everyone was doing it...........

It started in fourth grade when I went from a private Christian academy to a public school when my dad lost his job..............

a kid on the playground showed it to me.....

wrapped in clear plastic...

Said he got it from his older brother...........

I was white and funny looking , I had never seen anything like it.......

He showed me how to use it it..........

I never ever could control my craving after that.......

The milky stringy goodness.............

Pretty soon I was stealing from my paper route money and sneaking off to the convenience stores to score some more.......

Then I branched out...........

Cheddar, Gouda, One time I ate Stilton Blue until I hallucinated and woke up in a weight watchers meeting wearing only one blue sock, a Florida gators seat cushion, and three pairs of contact lenses.............

Then I hit rock bottom.................

Lactose free, vegan cheese, soy cheese, almond cheese, nothing was taboo, My favorite was trading my moms dialysis coupons for the tinfoil wrapped "Guv-met cheese"..........

Finally I was arrested when I beat up the widower of a disabled WWII veteran with a sock full of hearing aid batteries and pawned his wheelchair to buy a lunchables..........

I only ate the cheese.........

I believe in gateways................

Thanks for listening to my story brothers..........................carry on.

Blame it on the Cheese!

This could have been Gouda!

Where's the paiute and toad likkin? Toad likkin is big round here. Piloscybin mushrooms? Hows about sprayin RAID onto a plate glass window scraping it off and smoking that. I come into contact with a bunch of interesting recreational drug techniques in my job here. Ever hear of a skittle party. Hows about huffing starter fluid or chainsaw gas. Freebasing Pufferfish sperm? Kids getting hit by cars because they are licking the exaust residue off off highway bumps? Electrical transformer fluid soaked cigarettes? Ketamine cupcakes? Hows about the old prison trick of fermenting one's poo and pee pee in a plastic bag and then huffing the methane gas? I bet some of you Roughnecks out there have made some PRUNO AKA cell wine.

I hate to admit it, but people will always seek enlightenment, entertainment and fun through beter chemistry.

And W,

If you are going to use meme's to make a point, don't pick the guys who became cultural icons and millionaires because they embraced weed. That right there is counterproductive, lol.

I have seen studies where they took a poll of high school kids and one of college kids about drug use, porn, and irresponsible sex. High school kids recorded higher on drug use and sex because they perceive it as cool and lie on the polls. In college, by the junior year irresponsible sex is bad and so is drugs but the porn is more accepted. By the time that they have taken the mandatory human sexuality classes the porn ranks at the top because it is now a socially accepted activity and they have been away from mom and dad for three years. Polls really prove nothing.

So this shows that 12th graders abuse pharmaceuticals more than marijuana? 39.4% pills vs 36.4%marijuana.

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Dang 3 hours of no commentary, I was becoming genuinely concerned that we might never reach the mystical post count of 420!


I can't see the picture that MG posted, so i have no idea what it is.

Careful hawg, can't use to much rational thought around here backed by scientific evidence. Someone's going to accuse you being a crazed meth freak at any moment.

Freebasing pufferfish sperm???? please tell me your joking right? because most of the rest of the stuff i have actually heard about before... but that would just be wrong.

lol

I think wife beaters should be a mandatory life sentence..........I hate those shirts.

Well color me impressed, After 20 pages of nonsense, you have finally linked a real study, that's both current, and in some senses supports your viewpoints that cannabis should remain illegal. Dang, it is true even a blind bird finds a worm every once in a while.

You did however omit some crucial portions of the study. Namely this chart and the fact that both Cigarette use and Alcohol use have been dropping. It's my position that these abuses are decreasing because they are legal, regulated, and thereby kept out of the hands of teens.

Thus again driving home the exact point, that legalization and regulation are the only way in which you keep drugs out of the hands of teens.

Thanks MG, didn't realize you had flipped sides and joined our liberalist cause.

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Correct. Graphs don't lie! ;)

Don't know about any of them you stated but, meth is a bad problem around here. Again don't know if it's cause drugs are illegal or not but I would bet it's high use in La. Too!!

All that graph states is kids are getting smarter by choosing the safer cannabis. Nice work in adding up the pharma ones. If it was really about safety and well being no one would get arrested for weed until all the meth was eradicated.
Rape kits sit back logged in evidence rooms because cops are too busy filling out paper work on drugs. If they had asset forfeiture and mandatory minimums for rapist I bet it would be different .

Abuse of pharmaceuticals is a real problem than needs to be addressed. But this analysis in the pills vs. marijuana is flawed.

If you add the "synthetic marijuana" to the "marijuana" you get 47.7% for marijuana, and if you add the percentages correctly for the pills you get 37.4%.

You do realize that fake weed only exist b/c real stuff is illegal right ?

Legal MJ would effectively eliminate synthetic pot. No one on this earth would chose the fake over the real. Unlike real cannabis the fake is really dangerous but a high % of people use just to get around a drug test. Furthering my point that drug test just make people use more dangerous drugs.

The fact that it is SYNTHETIC tells you that it is not marijuana.

You do realize fake weed is illegal also right?

I think the increased regulation of alcohol and tobacco have played an important role in reducing use by teens, both in showing teens that society believes they are dangerous and because their use has been more tightly restricted since the late 1980s.

Recall that the drinking age has been raised from 18 to 21 in most states over this period. This means that almost no high school students may legally buy alcohol, but it also raises the access bar because other parties supplying alcohol to teens need to be 21 to legally purchase. I would be curious to know if the libertarian-minded advocates of marijuana legalization are hoping to put the access age at 18 or 21. Your analogy argument with alcohol ("legalization would reduce teen access") is only valid if you intend to make the age of access 21. Drunk driving laws are also tighter and more strictly enforced, with much stiffer penalties for those under 21 driving under the influence.

Public smoking has also come under much tighter restrictions in the US over the past 20 years, and several states have raised their ages for legal purchase.

What's your point ?

All they do is change a molecule and BOOM not illegal.
They come out with new ones every week.

They believe its dangerous because Alcohol and tobacco are toxic and addictive.
It's not enforcement that slowed it down it's education.
Of course the legal age for cannabis would be 21 years of age no ones advocating recreational use for kids.

Prohibition has effectively created a new class of dangerous drugs way more dangerous then their counterparts.
Prohibition of booze created moonshine. Prohibition of drugs has spawned bath salts.

Wrong, you better read up on the laws!! It cover any synthetic type drugs.
Dont care how many chemicals you change its still illegal!!

Two voters in the poll have advocated reducing penalties for access to minors.

In post #281, Goooh wrote that weed being illegal for Tryann Mathieu (20 at the time Les Miles kicked him off the team) was the cause of his woes rather than the negative effects of cannabis on teenagers.

The inference that marijuana should not have been illegal for the 20 year old was clear.

Maybe some LSU fans did not realize that Tryann Mathieu was only 20 when Les Miles kicked him off of the team and when (two months later) he got into trouble with the law for possession.

All those who really think cannabis use should remain illegal for all teenagers can go ahead and positively affirm the statement:

The athletic and legal consequences for Tryann Mathieu were completely reasonable because he was only 20 at the time and cannabis use should have been illegal for him! He should have known better. I hope drug laws remain strictly enforced for teenagers!

Oh sorry. You are clearly more educated than I on this issue.
Even if they finally got the law written correctly it still changes nothing. People use it b/c of drug test. I know next you will come with. " they can test it now"
and you would be wrong. They test for JWH-018 and HU-210 thats 2 out of a couple hundred synthetic canabanoids on earth. They change the make up every week. The testing industry will never catch up.

"Cross-sectional studies have revealed significant associations between cannabis use and a range of measures of educational performance including lower grade point average, less satisfaction with school, negative attitudes to school, increased rates of school absenteeism and poor school performance....In particular, early cannabis use appears to be associated with the adoption of an anti-conventional lifestyle characterized by affiliations with delinquent and substance using peers, and the precocious adoption of adult roles including early school leaving, leaving the parental home and early parenthood."- The effects of adolescent cannabis use on educational attainment: a review

Look we can agree. Kids shouldn't smoke pot. After all those detrimental effects of weed made him a terrible football player.

you said weed was not addictive so now your saying it is Clampy?? Must be for someone to smoke a synthetic weed to void s drug test???

So if they are that hard up to smoke a fake drug for a high..."addicted"

Hey miss smalls. I really wish you would post what treatment site you are copying and pasting from.

I wanted McDonald's yesterday but they didn't have one close by so I got Burger King. #addicted.

yea kids should not smoke weed.

The quotes I post were found through Google Scholar and the National Institutes of Health. These lead me to scientific papers published in peer-reviewed medical and health journals.

Some people just don't like to drink.
If they can catch their buzz and keep their job they will but by calling it Synthetic MJ people assume its safe like real MJ. It's not synthetic pot it's nasty potpourri. This whole argument is for adults to legally have the right to chose a substance safer than alcohol.

Clampy loves Pot!!!

Puff Puff Give.....

You got one thing correct.

How's this for scientific papers
Smarter kids do drugs more !


http://www.scientificamerican.com/po...-more-11-11-22

LSD and Meth heads are great chemist

We can post counter acting studies all freaking day.
It boils down too should ADULTS be put in a cage for the use of a substance safer than booze ?
They answer is NO

As I'm sure W will point out again that weed is illegal.

"Availability of marijuana, which might increase if the drug were legalized, clearly has been shown to affect adolescents' use. Adolescents who have been offered marijuana are 7 times more likely to use it than are those who have not been offered marijuana. Similarly, those who report that marijuana is easy to get are approximately 2.5 times more likely to use it than those who consider it hard to get.

Some advocates for the legalization of marijuana argue that it is safer than alcohol. They suggest that increased use of marijuana by young people might have a positive effect if some adolescents switched from alcohol to marijuana (a substitution effect). This theory cannot be supported by recent studies on adolescent marijuana and alcohol use that incorporated the price of marijuana into the analysis. These studies conclude that an increase in use of marijuana by adolescents would result in an increased use of alcohol (ie, that the 2 drugs are economic complements).

From a public health perspective, even a small increase in use, whether attributable to increased availability or decreased perception of risk, would have significant ramifications. For example, if only an additional 1% of 15- to 19-year-olds in the United States began using marijuana, there would be approximately 190 000 new users." - Legalization of Marijuana: Potential Impact on Youth

From 1984 to 1996, the period during which Dutch prosecution of marijuana-related offenses became virtually nonexistent, marijuana use increased consistently and substantially until 1992 while decreasing or remaining stable in other countries. Among 18- to 20-year-olds, the proportion who reported ever having used marijuana increased from 15% to 44%, and the proportion who reported using it within the previous 30 days increased from 8.5% to 18.5%. Use among adolescents in the United States decreased steadily from 1979 to 1992. - - Legalization of Marijuana: Potential Impact on Youth

"There are currently over 1 million teenage cannabis dealers in the United States and almost 0 teenage alcohol dealers any policy that creates 1million teenage cannabis dealers is bad law"
- journal of common sense and reasoning

Hey MG if you need advice on how to use a burn handle ask W.

Not safer than booze

Psychomotor effects and driving Cannabis produces dose-related impairments in cognitive and behavioural functions that may potentially impair driving a motor vehicle or operating machinery. These impairments are larger and more persistent for difficult tasks that depend on sustained attention The most serious possible consequence of acute cannabis use is a road-traffic accident if a user drives while intoxicated.

The effects of recreational doses of cannabis on driving performance in laboratory simulators and standardised driving courses have been reported by some researchers as being similar to the effects when blood alcohol concentrations are between 0.07% and 0.10%. -- Adverse effects of cannabis

Yes we have established this. No kids and don't toke and drive. Jeez !

Not safer than booze

For over two decades, cannabis, commonly known as marijuana, has been the most widely used illicit drug by young people in high-income countries, and has recently become popular on a global scale. Epidemiological research during the past 10 years suggests that regular use of cannabis during adolescence and into adulthood can have adverse effects. Epidemiological, clinical, and laboratory studies have established an association between cannabis use and adverse outcomes. We focus on adverse health effects of greatest potential public health interest—that is, those that are most likely to occur and to affect a large number of cannabis users. The most probable adverse effects include a dependence syndrome, increased risk of motor vehicle crashes, impaired respiratory function, cardiovascular disease, and adverse effects of regular use on adolescent psychosocial development and mental health. - Adverse effects of cannabis