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Raymond 02-10-2013 11:24 PM

Laffy Shooting
 
What's the story? 3 shot 1 dead and they have the homeowner who shot them.

meaux fishing 02-10-2013 11:58 PM

you mean all the STM kids? probably drug related. kid thats in custody is 18

Dink 02-11-2013 08:54 AM

Looks like kids were trying to steal something and got caught in the act by homeowners son. Kids fled, kid shot them in the car.......3 shots, and he hit all 3 killing one. Austin is the kid that was killed.

Shooter is arrested. 2 counts attempted first degree and 1 count first degree

specktator 02-11-2013 09:13 AM

I find it pretty odd that he only shot 3 times at a moving vehicle and hit all 3 of them. Hit the driver in the ankle?

BassAssasin 02-11-2013 09:17 AM

someone is lying, only a matter of time before someone spills the beans

Loneshark 02-11-2013 10:41 AM

Did they all go to school together?

meaux fishing 02-11-2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BassAssasin (Post 547711)
someone is lying, only a matter of time before someone spills the beans

yep thats why no details have been released yet

meaux fishing 02-11-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Loneshark (Post 547746)
Did they all go to school together?

the ones that got shot did I think is what they said on the news last night

Matt G 02-11-2013 10:51 AM

Put those 2 fifteen year olds in an interrogation room and the truth will be revealed eventually.

On a side note, three shots at a moving vehicle with a pistol and hit all three occupants..... Dude got an aim on him.

SULPHITE 02-11-2013 11:05 AM

SUPPOSEDLY......the shooter's house had been burgluarized 3-4 times prior....internet data so take it with a grian of salt....

bmac 02-11-2013 11:54 AM

There is a thread on tigerdroppings about it with alot of info. Still not many public facts yet though. So far it is looking like very bad judgement on the shooter's part, to include saying he only shot as a warning as they were driving away.

edit: In no way has anything definite been said though, so it could go either way when the facts come out. I was just saying what I was getting from the posts.

Finfeatherfur 02-11-2013 12:01 PM

http://theadvocate.com/home/5151634-...-one-teen-dead

Best article so far.

Big Flounder 02-11-2013 12:09 PM

Bad deal there!

SULPHITE 02-11-2013 12:15 PM

yeah we don't need to be on dateline again...

Matt G 02-11-2013 12:26 PM

http://www.bustedinacadiana.com/2013...fleeing-teens/

longcast 02-11-2013 12:48 PM

I bet those kids won't be breaking into vehicles again.

southern151 02-11-2013 12:56 PM

What a mess.

While I'm sure his sister is trying to help everyone understand the situation, I think she'd do best to not speak to anyone about this from now on.

Lake Chuck Duck 02-11-2013 01:03 PM

Very unfortunate. Where were these kid's parents at? 15 year olds riding around breaking in to cars at 2am. 4 lives ruined due to the the actions and poor decisions by all involved. Such a shame.

SULPHITE 02-11-2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lake Chuck Duck (Post 547838)
Very unfortunate. Where were these kid's parents at? 15 year olds riding around breaking in to cars at 2am. 4 lives ruined due to the the actions and poor decisions by all involved. Such a shame.

x2

Dink 02-11-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 547836)
What a mess.

While I'm sure his sister is trying to help everyone understand the situation, I think she'd do best to not speak to anyone about this from now on.

No doubt!

Lake Chuck Duck 02-11-2013 01:18 PM

When comitting crimes like burglary you always run the risk of getting shot at. That being said the 18yo has no right to shoot at a fleeing vehicle on a public road, he should have known better. It hasnt been said if the teens had a fire arm or not. I assume they didnt.

Finfeatherfur 02-11-2013 01:41 PM

Story around the office cooler here at my office in Lafayette is that these boys were trying to go meet some friends. Rumor had it that they were not trying to break into any vehicles at all, but one of them knew the house and the brother of the shooter. He also knew that beer was kept in an outdoor fridge, thus they were trying to score some suds.

If that is the case, how tradgic for all involved! - Hell, even I was trying to score some suds at 15. On another note, WTH is LPD charging this guy with 1st degree anyway. That does not seem like the right charge along with 2 counts attempted 1st degree. I didn't go to law school, or sleep at a Holiday Inn last night, but seems like manslaughter is more appropiate.

meaux fishing 02-11-2013 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Finfeatherfur (Post 547859)
Story around the office cooler here at my office in Lafayette is that these boys were trying to go meet some friends. Rumor had it that they were not trying to break into any vehicles at all, but one of them knew the house and the brother of the shooter. He also knew that beer was kept in an outdoor fridge, thus they were trying to score some suds.

If that is the case, how tradgic for all involved! - Hell, even I was trying to score some suds at 15. On another note, WTH is LPD charging this guy with 1st degree anyway. That does not seem like the right charge along with 2 counts attempted 1st degree. I didn't go to law school, or sleep at a Holiday Inn last night, but seems like manslaughter is more appropiate.

I was wondering about that because isn't first-degree premeditated?

southern151 02-11-2013 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 547868)
I was wondering about that because isn't first-degree premeditated?

I've seen a lot of homicides start out as 1st deg and then get reduced to 2nd. As I was told, with 1st deg having the potential for the death penalty, it costs more to go that route than 2nd deg which is mandatory life sentence. Amazes me that it costs more to put one to death than it does to house them for the rest of their living days!:pissed:

Anyway, back on topic, I'm sure the charges will be reduced somewhat. I'd also bet that this young man will likely spend many years in prison for this. Is that right or wrong, I can't say. I don't know what all happened.

Bad deal, either way.

whunter29 02-11-2013 02:20 PM

Just my opinion but I don't feel the shooter deserves to be locked up at all if they were breaking into his truck. I understand that he was wrong for firing shots off at a fleeing truck but to wrongs don't make a right.

Dink 02-11-2013 02:30 PM

Seth is going down. And he should. There was no threat, he shouldve never pulled the gun out much less pulled the trigger

swampman46 02-11-2013 02:39 PM

...and as a side note...more fuel in the fire on the side of firearm opponents. :(

evidrine 02-11-2013 02:45 PM

Did they release the names of the kids that were shot yet?

Lake Chuck Duck 02-11-2013 02:47 PM

Also, this is what happens when you dont get help from police, people take matters into their own hands. Cars broken in to 4-5 times. Dont hear back from police on any of them. You arm yourself and try and fix the situation.

Not saying this is in any why the police's fault at all.

Lake Chuck Duck 02-11-2013 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by evidrine (Post 547884)
Did they release the names of the kids that were shot yet?

Busted in acadiana had the kid's pic up the other day and was saying where the were having a candle light vigil at.

Lake Chuck Duck 02-11-2013 02:55 PM

Austin Rivault is the kids name that passed.

Lake Chuck Duck 02-11-2013 02:56 PM

The 2 injured are William Bellamy and Cole Kelly.

whunter29 02-11-2013 03:11 PM

The kid be charged with 1 st degree murder in this case is exactly why we have so many criminals in today's world. They pay no consequences but yet the victim who fights back gets charged. Just another shinning example of what America has become!

OhSoEasy 02-11-2013 03:37 PM

I don't think violence is right, but I think everyone should be allowed to defend themselves and their possessions. If it really was his third or fourth time getting his vehicle broken into, I would have done the same thing. And I think his sister is just going to make things worse.

swampman46 02-11-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OhSoEasy (Post 547898)
I don't think violence is right, but I think everyone should be allowed to defend themselves and their possessions. If it really was his third or fourth time getting his vehicle broken into, I would have done the same thing. And I think his sister is just going to make things worse.

I agree in defending ourselves, however when the shooter chose to pursue, he was then on offense, not defense.

Dink 02-11-2013 04:53 PM

Lol!! Edit.....sorry

Reefman 02-11-2013 05:18 PM

Lets see.....One minor shot dead, two other minors wounded and the likelihood that the shooter will spend most of his life in jail.
and some of you think that this was justified? Justified over what? Beer, maybe a cell phone...or whatever.

Get a license# and turn them perps over to the police. So many young lives that have been destroyed here...shooting them as they were running away was not the right answer.

weedeater 02-11-2013 05:30 PM

I will agree with Reefman to a point but it is sad that this happened but its also sad that even if he caught them red handed and held them till police got there they would have just been released to their parents who evidently ain't doin a good job in the first place. I know this probably will turn out unjustified and the shooter will end up doin time and no the punishment for theft shouldn't be death but if they prove these kids were breaking into his truck then they should be beat on public TV and it be shown in every school of America that this is the punishment.
I had a 4wheeler stolen and my buddies horse stolen by some "miss guided" kids that cost us both money and time lost just to have them turned back over to their parents.... where's the justices in that, they should everyone of them be tried along with their parents and then anyone found guilty at the least beat and put on TV. When we began dealing REAL justice to kids and adults for crimes I bet people will think twice.

southern151 02-11-2013 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reefman (Post 547923)
Get a license# and turn them perps over to the police. So many young lives that have been destroyed here...shooting them as they were running away was not the right answer.

I would venture to guess the young man that squeezed the trigger is thinking the same right now. Too bad because, really, I can see his frustration but, in that, you have to learn self control. To me, that's the most important aspect of responsible gun ownership.

fishinpox 02-11-2013 05:42 PM

I used to have the attitude of " if you take my things or try to take my things , it's your azz". Well now a days I have a lot to lose if I go shoot someone trying to take my stuff. The only time I'd shoot is if someone was inside my home and I felt mine or my families life was threatened. The last thing I want is some thug democrats family trying to sue me because they wanted to steal from me to buy crack.... I will let the police handle it

Dink 02-11-2013 05:46 PM

Well......I know where one of the parents was......at home. His son stuffed his bed so his parents would think he was in there and snuck out......He was awoken by a knovk on the door......it was the police inforning him that his son was dead....

OhSoEasy 02-11-2013 06:08 PM

I believe he shouldn't have shot at a fleeing car and I'm not happy with anyone dying. I think the situation is horrible for all involved. I do see from what his sister said as to why he would want to take matters into his own hands.

meaux fishing 02-11-2013 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reefman (Post 547923)
Lets see.....One minor shot dead, two other minors wounded and the likelihood that the shooter will spend most of his life in jail.
and some of you think that this was justified? Justified over what? Beer, maybe a cell phone...or whatever.

Get a license# and turn them perps over to the police. So many young lives that have been destroyed here...shooting them as they were running away was not the right answer.

Agreed...I have had stuff stolen from me and at the time I was pissed and said I would kill a mfer but Id like to think Im more level headed than that. Unless you are in fear of your safety or your familys saftey there is no reason to shoot at them. You can say stop Ive got a gun or I could possibly even see firing a shot at the ground to make them stop, but being a responsible gun owner means not just shooting randomly. I mean what if he misses them but the bullet goes through a window of a house and kills a truly innocent person. Stuff is replaceable no matter the value peoples lives are not

Matt G 02-11-2013 06:30 PM

No doubt according to the law it was a bad shoot. However, it is hard to say what any of us would do in that situation considering the circumstances. After numerous break-ins and numerous reports ignored by LEO, whose to say this wouldn't have eventually escalated into a home invasion or worse. I'm not saying he was justified, but people can only take so much. It's sad that a kid died, but don't think they're all innocent because they are just 15. 15y/o's today aren't the same as 15 y/o's just 10 years ago. You play stupid games you win stupid prizes.

SULPHITE 02-11-2013 06:33 PM

Quote:

You play stupid games you win stupid prizes
Bingo

bmac 02-11-2013 06:45 PM

Well considering the shooter is now facing perhaps the rest of his natural life in prison, it would be a good idea for him to have known whether he was within his rights to shoot or not. It occurs to me that some gun owners may not know exactly what situations call for firing a weapon.

budndawn 02-11-2013 06:57 PM

It is simple, you cannot put property above a life. I can understand the frustration but thats where responsibility and self control comes into play. Hind sight is always 20/20.

FF_T_Warren 02-11-2013 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt G (Post 547946)
No doubt according to the law it was a bad shoot. However, it is hard to say what any of us would do in that situation considering the circumstances. After numerous break-ins and numerous reports ignored by LEO, whose to say this wouldn't have eventually escalated into a home invasion or worse. I'm not saying he was justified, but people can only take so much. It's sad that a kid died, but don't think they're all innocent because they are just 15. 15y/o's today aren't the same as 15 y/o's just 10 years ago. You play stupid games you win stupid prizes.

Yep. You put yourself in a bad situation, and bad things are likely to happen.

Country Boy 02-11-2013 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finfeatherfur (Post 547859)
Story around the office cooler here at my office in Lafayette is that these boys were trying to go meet some friends. Rumor had it that they were not trying to break into any vehicles at all, but one of them knew the house and the brother of the shooter. He also knew that beer was kept in an outdoor fridge, thus they were trying to score some suds.

If that is the case, how tradgic for all involved! - Hell, even I was trying to score some suds at 15. On another note, WTH is LPD charging this guy with 1st degree anyway. That does not seem like the right charge along with 2 counts attempted 1st degree. I didn't go to law school, or sleep at a Holiday Inn last night, but seems like manslaughter is more appropiate.

My aunt is friends with the mom of the boy that was driving the car also he is the one that was shot in the ankle, she also told me they were just trying to get some beer, he had called his mom and told her he was shot and friend was gone in back seat also told her he was going home but she told him go to hospital and would meet him there.

whunter29 02-11-2013 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 547926)
I will agree with Reefman to a point but it is sad that this happened but its also sad that even if he caught them red handed and held them till police got there they would have just been released to their parents who evidently ain't doin a good job in the first place. I know this probably will turn out unjustified and the shooter will end up doin time and no the punishment for theft shouldn't be death but if they prove these kids were breaking into his truck then they should be beat on public TV and it be shown in every school of America that this is the punishment.
I had a 4wheeler stolen and my buddies horse stolen by some "miss guided" kids that cost us both money and time lost just to have them turned back over to their parents.... where's the justices in that, they should everyone of them be tried along with their parents and then anyone found guilty at the least beat and put on TV. When we began dealing REAL justice to kids and adults for crimes I bet people will think twice.

That's the way I feel man


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