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cajunforeman 06-24-2010 09:37 AM

Retriver Help
 
Just wondering if some of yall could help me out? My dog is 7 months now and I'm trying to put him on actual birds. He's currently having trouble picking up the birds by the body, he only wants to pick it up by the neck. He has been forced so if i put it in front of him he will do fine but when its on the ground he's not too sure about it. I've only been working on this for a day but I just wanted some pointers. Any help will be appreciated

Raymond 06-24-2010 09:49 AM

p/m me with your # I might be able to help.

cajunforeman 06-24-2010 10:11 AM

Thanks so much for your help!!! I will be in touch! Anyone that does something like that is a top notch person in my book. Great people on this site

Shawn Braquet 06-24-2010 10:23 AM

ducks? how big is the bird? have you tried sending him only 5 or 10 feet away and does he do the same?

cajunforeman 06-24-2010 10:27 AM

Yes, it was a mallard and he does it anytime the bird is on the ground. Raymond helped me out a lot so I'm going to give his thoughts a try this evening.

specktator 06-24-2010 10:29 AM

If he is picking up a bumper, try duct taping some wings on each side of the bumper to get him used to the feel of it in his mouth.

huntin fool 06-24-2010 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by specktator (Post 168243)
If he is picking up a bumper, try duct taping some wings on each side of the bumper to get him used to the feel of it in his mouth.


Mine would drag them by the feet....but with a bumper she'd do fine.

Fixed that by taping wing, just like you said.

specktator 06-24-2010 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 168244)
Mine would drag them by the feet....but with a bumper she'd do fine.

Fixed that by taping wing, just like you said.

Yep. One of my buddies had the same problem last year with a dog about 6-7 months also. Some will just start picking them up, others need a little coaxing by taping the wings. I told him to try this. Works like a charm.

cajunforeman 06-24-2010 10:40 AM

Thanks, I'll try that also

Raymond 06-24-2010 11:11 AM

See the Duck......Be the Duck

I am availible most afternoons, don't go to the field until atleast 7 due to the high heat.
Bring that hound over and let's see where he is in the program. Make sure you bring ice
and a couple cold ones for afterwards.

cajunforeman 06-24-2010 11:32 AM

I'll defiantly take care of that. I've been starting around 7 or 7:30 every afternoon that I can. I'm go to try those few things that you told me and then I'll give you a call so we can get together. Thanks again

cajunforeman 06-24-2010 11:34 AM

I also wanted to ask you if you know a guy buy the name of David from moss bluff? Thats where Shaq came from

huntin fool 06-24-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cajunforeman (Post 168283)
I also wanted to ask you if you know a guy buy the name of David from moss bluff? Thats where Shaq came from


I live in the bluff...David who?

cajunforeman 06-24-2010 12:11 PM

DEGATER

huntin fool 06-24-2010 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cajunforeman (Post 168300)
DEGATER


Yep, good friend of mine.

cajunforeman 06-24-2010 12:25 PM

He was a really nice guy. I hope that shaq turns out good so I can give some good reports on him.

Shawn Braquet 06-24-2010 12:58 PM

raymond do you still train in vinton or around lake charles? i NEED to get drake back into training mode so i can get his blinds down good, ever since i moved out of my house i have done ZERO training with him other than just throwing dummies and makin sure he doesnt brake and throwin doubles...all is good there just need to make sure his blinds and hand signals are still where they were during season, on the other hand I believe he is enjoying the break especially since its soo hot.

Raymond 06-24-2010 01:09 PM

Yes, I need to get off my A$$ and head to the Rhoads Ranch sat mornings for water work. It is hard to drag my butt out of the house without help though.:work:

Shawn Braquet 06-24-2010 01:19 PM

hear ya, give me a shout if im free i can help put some of dem cold ones back for ya

speckinabox 06-24-2010 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cajunforeman (Post 168305)
He was a really nice guy. I hope that shaq turns out good so I can give some good reports on him.


I have a female from the same litter. She picks up ducks with no prob. Has no trouble when we are alone but anyone or anything else is around and she has a little trouble. I tried to do what i can with her but i dont have enough room being in the city. Kind of hyper for a girl not going to lie.

cajunforeman 06-24-2010 02:18 PM

I don't think it will be a problem its just something i need to work more on

SULPHITE 06-24-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by speckinabox (Post 168346)
I have a female from the same litter. She picks up ducks with no prob. Has no trouble when we are alone but anyone or anything else is around and she has a little trouble. I tried to do what i can with her but i dont have enough room being in the city. Kind of hyper for a girl not going to lie.

she'll give ya a tongue bath when your not looking! :rotfl:

huntin fool 06-24-2010 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SULPHITE (Post 168349)
she'll give ya a tongue bath when your not looking! :rotfl:



Atleast she won't come and lean on you and piss on your boot...Buddies dog does that :*****:

cajunforeman 06-24-2010 02:22 PM

you got any pics of that pup? I wonder how much they look alike

Shawn Braquet 06-24-2010 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 168351)
Atleast she won't come and lean on you and piss on your boot...Buddies dog does that :*****:

hope you arent talking bout mine:eek:

speckinabox 06-24-2010 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SULPHITE (Post 168349)
she'll give ya a tongue bath when your not looking! :rotfl:


boy you aint a woopin

huntin fool 06-24-2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawn Braquet (Post 168357)
hope you arent talking bout mine:eek:


:*****::*****::*****:


Nah this lab is about as old as me...leans up on ya, and takes a leak.
Drake can do that? That's pretty awesome if he could.

speckinabox 06-24-2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cajunforeman (Post 168353)
you got any pics of that pup? I wonder how much they look alike


I have some on my laptop at home i will put on here. She is about 60# and her legs are starting to get taller.

cajunforeman 06-24-2010 02:30 PM

Check out the retrivers thread on the third page in this forum and you can see a few of him. I would put him pretty close to 60lbs and he just started getting taller in the past month

speckinabox 06-24-2010 02:33 PM

Almost a mirror image.

speckinabox 06-24-2010 02:35 PM

Sulphite has a video of her at about 3 months old where she was first getting in the water. Its pretty cool i will see if he will put it on.

SULPHITE 06-24-2010 02:37 PM

Hold on I'll see what I can do!

Woodduck Commander 06-24-2010 02:37 PM

im trying to get my dog broken of being distacted.. she gets a little excited and hardheaded if other dogs are around. she is about 7 months. she is a good dog, i just hope i can get her to be a great one

cajunforeman 06-24-2010 02:39 PM

He was not afraid of the water. I had my hip boots on and everything. Before I was even close to being ready he jumped in.

specktator 06-24-2010 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodduck Commander (Post 168375)
im trying to get my dog broken of being distacted.. she gets a little excited and hardheaded if other dogs are around. she is about 7 months. she is a good dog, i just hope i can get her to be a great one

I haven't seen many dogs work well together. Especially males. My dog will throw down with any dog trying to take his ducks. But as your dog gets older it will get better. Mine 7 years old and he is all about ducks. I think he likes it more than I do and I love it!

cajunforeman 06-24-2010 07:17 PM

Raymond, I wanted to thank you again. I did what u told me and within 10 minutes he had it down. I even did short retrives and he handled the bird with no problems at all

Raymond 06-24-2010 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cajunforeman (Post 168424)
Raymond, I wanted to thank you again. I did what u told me and within 10 minutes he had it down. I even did short retrives and he handled the bird with no problems at all

Let me know where to send the bill. I get New York attorney rates for Internet counciling.

cajunforeman 06-25-2010 07:28 AM

I heard they charge about a 12 pack an hour

Raymond 06-30-2010 10:15 PM

How is he doing this week Brent??

Ducktrickster 07-01-2010 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by specktator (Post 168396)
I haven't seen many dogs work well together. Especially males. My dog will throw down with any dog trying to take his ducks. But as your dog gets older it will get better. Mine 7 years old and he is all about ducks. I think he likes it more than I do and I love it!

You really need a chance to hunt with well trained retrievers. No offense.

specktator 07-01-2010 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducktrickster (Post 171653)
You really need a chance to hunt with well trained retrievers. No offense.

My dog has been professionally trained by "Water Dog Kennels" just outside of Nola. He picks up the ducks and brings them back to me. Thats all that matters. We not trying to win any field trial championships where i hunt, we just mash ducks! He has bloodtrailed deer and picked up 100s of ducks. I have never seen any dogs work well together IMO. But of course u have yours. Who would need to hunt more than one dog at a time anyway? Where i hunt u dont have room to hunt more than one dog.

Ducktrickster 07-01-2010 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by specktator (Post 171767)
My dog has been professionally trained by "Water Dog Kennels" just outside of Nola. He picks up the ducks and brings them back to me. Thats all that matters. We not trying to win any field trial championships where i hunt, we just mash ducks! He has bloodtrailed deer and picked up 100s of ducks. I have never seen any dogs work well together IMO. But of course u have yours. Who would need to hunt more than one dog at a time anyway? Where i hunt u dont have room to hunt more than one dog.

I'm not getting into a contest with you speck. I have no doubt that your dog does everything you want and more. In the end, that's all that matters. I have had my most enjoyable hunts hunting multiple dogs. I guess I just like to see good dog work. When you have a group of teal buzz and you knock down 6 or 7 it makes for a much quicker pick up with multiple dogs so that you can get back to hunting. That's just one example of when hunting with more than one dog would be convenient.

specktator 07-01-2010 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducktrickster (Post 171785)
I'm not getting into a contest with you speck. I have no doubt that your dog does everything you want and more. In the end, that's all that matters. I have had my most enjoyable hunts hunting multiple dogs. I guess I just like to see good dog work. When you have a group of teal buzz and you knock down 6 or 7 it makes for a much quicker pick up with multiple dogs so that you can get back to hunting. That's just one example of when hunting with more than one dog would be convenient.

My dog is by no means a perfectly trained dog, but he gets the job done. I will jump out the blind and start picking up the rest when that happens. We just hunt little potholes in the marsh and there usually isnt enough cover or room for more than 1 dog. Main need for a dog out there is to keep u from losing the ones that fall in the grass. I just know pretty much every dog (male especially) that i have been around would not work well with another dog. Maybe if u trained him to his whole life. Just ask Asterisk Rich about when u put 2 males around each other just at the camp! Asterisk almost lost his hand trying to break up a fight b/w my dog and a buddies'.:p

Ducktrickster 07-01-2010 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by specktator (Post 171797)
My dog is by no means a perfectly trained dog, but he gets the job done. I will jump out the blind and start picking up the rest when that happens. We just hunt little potholes in the marsh and there usually isnt enough cover or room for more than 1 dog. Main need for a dog out there is to keep u from losing the ones that fall in the grass. I just know pretty much every dog (male especially) that i have been around would not work well with another dog. Maybe if u trained him to his whole life. Just ask Asterisk Rich about when u put 2 males around each other just at the camp! Asterisk almost lost his hand trying to break up a fight b/w my dog and a buddies'.:p

All most people wat is a dog that gets the job done. Most problems, including aggression towards other dogs, can be fixed if the owner wants to fix it. Until then, enjoy your dog. That's what you have him for. Asterick, keep your hands out of dogfigts. LMAO.

cajunforeman 07-10-2010 03:35 PM

He's been doing great!! I got a new job so haven't been able to work with him everyday like I was. We've been really working hard on the whole marking thing but it's getting better every time. I still have your number so I'll give you a call one afternoon.


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