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Hello Guy's new member here. I have been looking around at boats lately. Just finished paying child support to my ex and now it is time to reward myself to not killing her sorry ***!:D

I have pretty much decided on a Blue Wave Pure Bay 2200. I am going to get it with a 150 Yamaha 4 stroke. Any opinions on this boat/motor? I know the get the largest motor argument but is the additional expense worth it? Why? I am also planning on putting a 24v Motor Guide trolling motor on it. I considered the 36 volt but the dealer talked me out of it. He says the 24volt will be plenty and I agree. I fish for fun. If it is to windy for the 24 volt TM I don't want to be out there. I work offshore and mostly fish during the week to keep away from the crowds. I like to start early and don't fish past 1 or 2 in the afternoon usually so the 2 batteries should have plenty of juice.

The reason I chose this boat is because I like the liner boats. Plenty of storage I like the rear jump seats and in floor storage. According to the Yamaha bulletin this boat with this motor should run 53. Plenty fast enough for me. And it should be easy on fuel.

I have not committed yet and will likely wait until after Jan when I was told there will be better deals due to boat shows etc. So I have plenty of time to change my mind 10 times. Ain't boat shopping fun.:shaking:

That boat and motor would definitly be towards the top of my list in that price range.

i have a blue wave and love it wish i would have went with bigger though. i have the vbay 18.

now on the trolling motor i have a 24v and it is plenty for my boat but i have to say fishing the jettys some times with tide flowing hard or in small cuts i could use a little more power. so its not just the wind..... 24v will do everything you need but its easier to get what you want while you are financing than trying to come up with 1200 later.

First off,that is a really nice boat. But,I would go with the max hp for several reasons. Yamaha does performance tests, along with every other manufacture without real world loads. For example,most test are done with no trolling motor,one battery,half a tank of fuel,ect. Under a fishing load a 150 on that boat will burn just as much,or more fuel compared to the max hp rating. Another reason to go with the bigger motor is when you put 3 or 4 people in the boat,the holeshot will not be too good. Where are you planing on buying this boat?

I have a 19 ft. Cobia with a 150 Yamaha. Top speed is 50 mph, full fuel, full of fishing supplies, 1 big azzed Texan and 1 med. sized coonazz.
I cannot top 50 mph with less load. That is my top speed.

the 150 is not the motor i would go with think u should go with a 200 or bigger.

go with a 200HP.

:eek:

If you ever want to resale the boat it willl be alot easier with a 200 or more then a 150.

You remember huh...
Never thought you would get a ride like that did you.:D

Get the SHO

i like those bluewaves but iwould put nothing smaller than a 200 on a 22ft bay boat . I ran a guys boat for him last weekend it was a nautic star 22ft w a 150 4stroke it had a horrible hole shot and i had to run it wide open the entire time to get anywhere in a decent amount of time .. IMO i would get a 225 spend the xtra $ like you said you deserve it that way you dont have to run wide open to cruise at REASONABLE SPEED. ALSOGET THE HYDROLIC JACK PLATE AND TRIM TABS IF THE BUDGET ALLOWS FOR THEM. PM PUREBAY2200 ON HERE HE JUST SOLD HIS HE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE

If the boat is rated for a 200 and you have a 150 it is not a problem. However, if the boat is rated for a 250 then go with atleast a 200..... Blue Waves are very nice boats....
Note, go with a Yamaha.......do not let the dealer try to talk you into getting a CHEAP P.O.S. MERC OBAMAMAX......

Best bet, wait until the off season then find a good clean used rig with a 250 at a fraction of the price. You'll end up avoiding the initial hit with depreciation and the sales taxes since it's a casual sale.

That boat is badazz with a 225!!!! Fast fast!! All I can say is wow!!! But deffinatly get the optimax!!! So much lighter!!!

The cruising speed will be pretty good at a much lower rpm, plus when that swtorm is rollin up on you, you'll want that power!!!

Has anyone else ever heard of aboard owner wishing they had less power?????

The OBAMAMAX 225 is 497 in weight compared to the Yamaha SHO 225 which is 505 in weight........Also, the OBAMA MAX is a 2 stroke compared to the SHO which is a 4 stroke.....However, I bet OBAMA MAX will now have a fire sale due to the SHO......You will now be able to get the OBAMA MAX even cheaper then they were before.....

Drew c on THT is right.......you'll want the jackplate.......

If I remember right we got up in 1.6 ft of water with 4 guys on board in 2200's boat.......man, I loved that boat!!!

believe it or not Rene any new two stoke is probably more reliable than any 4 stoke and i guarantee 2 stokes have a better hole shot and more power

I beg to differ,that SHO is mean dude. Holeshot and acceleration is just as good or better. Suzuki four strokes also have alot of low and mid range power. Its hard to beat a oldschool carb 2 stroke for reliability,but the new four strokes have came a long way.

yeah i wasnt thinking bout the SHO...my bad:redface:

I came a long way to.......got her on the back of the head from about 4ft away!!!

On another note.......

First year of the sho, right???

I wouldn't get one yet........remember first generation e-tecs?

Dude you cannot compare a sho to a etec,whats wrong with you? :D Yamaha has a great warranty,nothing to worry about.

Dude you cannot compare a sho to a etec,whats wrong with you? :D Yamaha has a great warranty,nothing to worry about. On another note,your a sick bastard. :*****:

Nothing to worry about????? There's nothing that warranty will do for you when your broke down in the middle of nowhere with no other boats around........

That can happen with ANY motor on the market. That is a chance you take when you leave dry land.:shaking:

One thing to check on......where's the gas tank in that boat???

There is no way that motor pushes that boat 53. My boss has the same boat with a 225 and it tops out at 56.

Thanks for the input on the motor. I am thinking hard about upgrading but with a 150 I am looking at 41k out the door. The boat is rated for a 250 if I go with the 225 for just $500 more and a few more pounds in weight I could go with a 250. I have thought about just buying the hull it getting a low hour 250 two stroke. I agree that the two strokes are better motors. I currently have a 2010 Carolina Skiff J16 with a 2009 Yamaha 2 stroke 50. I bought this because I prefer a 2 stroke. Less Maint etc. The only good thing to me about a 4 stroke is fuel economy but the HPDI's are nearly as good.

I have thought about looking for a rigged out late model boat but was told there are new laws about sales tax? I was told you will have to pay sales tax on used boats now the same as you do on used cars when you go to register. Is this true? If not a newer used boat would definately be the way to go. Hell the sales tax alone on this boat is $3038.00 The dealer I am talking to right now is Southern Outdoors. I bought my Carolina Skiff from them and they agreed to take it in trade so I won't have to sell it. The good thing about trading it is what they give me in trade is deducted from the price of the boat before sales tax and saves me some money. I am not going to do anything until around Jan Feb. I was told I could save a lot more money if I wait until then because that is when the boat show prices will be out. Also the told me I would likely get a better warranty on the motor then due to sales incentives.

Go on the Yamaha website on the tab performance bulletin. I just looked and they have this same boat tested with a 225 and 150 Yamaha four stroke. FYI, I find that their data is pretty accurate. When I bought my boat I looked at the data compared to actual since my was tested and I was impressed with how accurate it was.

500 more for the 225...do yourself a favor and roll with that man. Southern outdoors is good people.

Spec in a box that is what I thought. Here is a link to the Yamaha site with the performance data for both the 150 and 225. It says it will do 62 with the 225 which will back up what I have read on other sites. That is freaking flying on the water with a 225 I have read it will do close to 65 with a 250.

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/p...ay-f150txr.pdf

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/p...ay-f225txr.pdf

No $500 more from the 225 to the 250 it is $7000 more from a 150 to a 225/250. The 2200 Pure bay is a 21' boat it is not 22'. It is the same length and width as the Frontier 210.

Just remember the SHO 200, 225, and 250 all way the same so if you are rated for the 250 then why not get it at only 505lbs. I love mine so far but it is still new.

You will regret putting a 150 on that boat once you put your podanas,fuel,ice,and whatnot.
I would not put anything less than a 200. Read the performance report closer....they tested it in 35 degree weather with one battery and as light as possible. You would be lucky to hit 45mph with a 150 with a fishing load,and a terrible holeshot. I work at the prop shop in lafayette...we get people that buy underpowered boats all the time coming in wanting to fix the problem with a prop. It just wont happen.

Taxes........buy out of state, person to person sale and there wont be sales tax.......buy on consignment or from a dealer period and there will be!!!! And it ain't cheap!!! Can't even register it till you go to fed and local offices and pay them in cash or check.........I didn't know this till I bought mine on consignment(which you should NEVER do).......my dad got his person to person.......we learned alot in those 2 months.......

The 2009 22' Purebay with a 150 Suzuki will hit 47 top end.

As far as I know on a casual sale from an individual, you'll pay taxes on the trailer only. This includes out of state and in, call LDWF registration in BR and ask.

Paperwork is a little tricky bringing one from Texas because they are a non notary state.

La. was no taxes on a used boat till a few years ago.
You pay taxes on a boat under 10 years old now.
They get you when you register it.
You have to go thru 3 different offices to get all the
paperwork done.

source?

Not if out of state internet sale!!!!

what does the internet have to do with it? :cool:

I understand what Ray is saying to be true about taxes on a used boat now. I think you have to get a paper from LDWF then bring it to the DMV to pay the taxes. Then once you pay the taxes they give you a form you have to submit to LDWF along with the Notorized bill of sale before they will register your boat. It does no good to fake the price on the bill of sale because they will compare the price on the bill of sale to the NADA book value of the boat. If so, to me that takes a big insentive away to buy a used boat.

About performance, I am coming up to this boat from a J16 Carolina skiff with a 50hp Yamaha 2 stroke. The biggest boat I've owned prior to this was a H56 Xpress with a 115 Yamaha 2 stroke. It would run in the mid 40's which was plenty fast enough for me. Most of the motors I have owned in the past were 25's to 50's with lots of mud motors thrown in. I have not been much of a salt water fisherman and did not need a big boat with a big motor. How fast would I be going in a 20' boat with a 150? I remember a few years ago a 150 was a HUGE motor. Is the hole shot so bad with a 150 on this boat that I can't get someone up on ski's? I will give it a sea trial before I buy it. Another thing I will try to do before I buy is to see if the dealer can get me a deal on a last year model HPDI. I really do like them. I have found a few last model V-Max's on the internet but they are all short shaft motors.

I looked at the SHO's when I was pricing this boat but they are only 20'' shaft motors. I need a 25'' for this hull. The dealer did not advise it. In fact the Nautic star dealer told me that Nautic star will be packaging their boats with SHO's but he won't buy any that way because of problems with the short shaft motor on a Hydralic Jack plate. Something about it hitting the cowling on something. That was Ricky at Degate's Marine in Houma. Ricky told me it is a great motor but they are not really the right choice for a bay boat. I trust Degate's and Southern Outdoors. I have bought several boats and many motors from both places. They have always treated me right. I will not own any motor other than a Yamaha. I have owned White motors in the past and those Black ones too. But the Yamaha's have never let me down.......so far.

What kind of speeds are other people getting out of their boats? What size boat and motors are you running? How fast do I need to go anyways? Where does the cost and the performance equal out? All of these are questions I am asking while I look at my next boat. The way I work I probably won't run the motor on this boat more than 80 hours a year and that will be during the summer. During the winter I will be hunting with a few fishing trips thrown in on occasion. How do I justify the additional $7000.00?

I hope no one thinks I am arguing the advise given here. I expected to be told to get the larger motor I am just trying figure out if I NEED it and if the NEED justifies the additional cost.

The only HPDI, 25" shaft Yamaha now makes is a 200 H.P....

Take my word... Get the 225 sho or 4 stroke yammy.
I had that boat, came with a 150. Topped at 48. Burnt slot of fuel.
Upgraded to 4 stroke 225 yammy. 63 top speed and burnt less fuel cruising at 45.
Get a bobs jackplate also, 36 vlt trollin motor with the 62" shaft.
Trim tabs are a must.
U will love the boat!!

Thanks Purebay2200. Do you still have the boat? What was the hole shot like with the 150? I am being converted. That 225 is looking better and better.

My friend in Westlake bought a boat less than 10 years old.
It was documented with the USCG, so it didn't have to be registered in La.
La. then changed the laws, every boat in La. had to be registered, even if
it is documented. If documented, it has to have a La. registration sticker,
but not registration numbers.
When he registered it with the state, they hit him with a tax bill stating that
his boat was under 10 years old and he had to pay taxes on it to the state.
I didn't see it in writing, I am just telling you what happened to him. My
source is from someone who got hit first hand.

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The 150 is a good hole shot.
But this boat is made for speed.
And u will want the speed.
Cruising at 45 with a 225 4 stroke will burn less gas than a 150 4 stroke and a 150 2 stroke.... It's easier in the engine period.
Just make sure u get the big prop.
I ran a 21x 14 1/4. It was the yamaha reliance I believe. Topped around 58
Jumped up fast and ran fast.
My 19X 13 was my speed prop. Topped at 63.
I sold the boat last march. Still lookin for the next one, lookin at the ranger banshee xtreme.
But the purebay will b a great boat for any situation!!

Whatever brand you decide go for larger hp ..in long run you probably burn less gas and not have to run as hard ...good luck

Saw a NICE Blue Wave Purebay 2400 yesterday in Leeville. The guy who owns it told me he is thinking of selling it. I got his phone number I might just get his. I am not sure yet. That boat is HUGE. I don't know how easy it would be to fish alone. I know it is only 3 feel longer but is sure looks way bigger. Whatever I get I am now convinced and will be putting a 250 on it. Screw it, I deserve to get want. Thing about me is I want I cheap out sometimes. I am not going to cheap out on this.

Since you 'make oil'...you should be able to afford it. :rolleyes: ;)