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Hebert 10-18-2010 06:28 PM

Burn Ban..anyway around it?
 
I need to burn 5 acres of field so I can start my dirt work on it....I called the local fire dept to get permission to do it but they won't let me......but yet everyday I see fields being burnt around here....I know farmers are exempt from burn bans for agriculture purposes but it makes no sense that I cannot do the same on acreage that is completely disked around it with no house for atleast a quarter to half mile away...
are their any special permits I could buy? Is their anyway around this..other than straight out ignoring it and burning anyway? what are the penalty's/fines for burning now?

Chris Havoc 10-18-2010 06:50 PM

accidental fires happen all the time when its this dry.......dunno what else to tell ya...

longsidelandry 10-18-2010 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hebert (Post 200839)
I need to burn 5 acres of field so I can start my dirt work on it....I called the local fire dept to get permission to do it but they won't let me......but yet everyday I see fields being burnt around here....I know farmers are exempt from burn bans for agriculture purposes but it makes no sense that I cannot do the same on acreage that is completely disked around it with no house for atleast a quarter to half mile away...
are their any special permits I could buy? Is their anyway around this..other than straight out ignoring it and burning anyway? what are the penalty's/fines for burning now?

Idk but I'm sure they'll be alot higher now that they see it was done intentionally....

wtretrievers 10-18-2010 06:57 PM

You gonna have a dozer? Scrape where you house pad is going to be, pile what you scrap & save it to fill or spread later. Plus equipment running around on the rest will make quick work of it, unless its knee high

Hebert 10-18-2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wtretrievers (Post 200848)
You gonna have a dozer? Scrape where you house pad is going to be, pile what you scrap & save it to fill or spread later. Plus equipment running around on the rest will make quick work of it, unless its knee high

no I wont have a dozer.. I am hiring a guy to come in a build a pond.make pads,driveway and level the whole property...i've already bushhogged it.. just need to burn it....and running into this brickwall wanting to do it the right way...

longside.. a fine is a fine...I don't think there is a sliding scale for intentional or unintentional.......like I said.. the fields around me are being burnt everyday...if they aren't hurting anyone, I won't be either...I will take all precautions possible IF I decide to do it..

eman 10-18-2010 08:24 PM

the ban exemptions only apply to agriculture practices

wtretrievers 10-18-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by eman (Post 200898)
the ban exemptions only apply to agriculture practices

Just tell 'em you fixing to plant rye grass:grinpimp:

Salty 10-18-2010 08:36 PM

Not even aware of a "ban", I set some boxes afire a week ago in the back yard and burnt up a good portion of my (wife's) privacy fence. :cry: My daughter called 911 when she thought dad wouldn't be able to put it out. I got a swift lecture from the fire department but no citation.

2ndamendment 10-18-2010 10:20 PM

Go talk to the farmers near you and see what they are doing, to contain their burning to just their fields. They might have some helpful tips.

Marshrat 10-19-2010 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 2ndamendment (Post 200946)
Go talk to the farmers near you and see what they are doing, to contain their burning to just their fields. They might have some helpful tips.


Farmers and timber companies are exempt from the burn ban. Haven't figured that one out yet, because we have been fighting to keep the fires that a farmer had set away from the houses near by.


Warren

Finfeatherfur 10-19-2010 08:56 AM

I have a guy that just burned his millet fields last week for dove hunting. Made a pass with a disc, and lit the sucker, went fast and was contained, no problems. If you have equipment their (tractor w/ implements) to containt the area, they will not mess w/ you, at least around my parts. As stated, the farm practices are exempt and it is time to plant winter wheat, just FYI.

LaAngler 10-19-2010 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 200909)
Not even aware of a "ban", I set some boxes afire a week ago in the back yard and burnt up a good portion of my (wife's) privacy fence. :cry: My daughter called 911 when she thought dad wouldn't be able to put it out. I got a swift lecture from the fire department but no citation.

nice work :shaking:

Finfeatherfur 10-19-2010 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 200909)
Not even aware of a "ban", I set some boxes afire a week ago in the back yard and burnt up a good portion of my (wife's) privacy fence. :cry: My daughter called 911 when she thought dad wouldn't be able to put it out. I got a swift lecture from the fire department but no citation.

There is no way in he!! I would have posted that on this site!:*****::*****:

goldenrod 10-19-2010 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by salty (Post 200909)
not even aware of a "ban", i set some boxes afire a week ago in the back yard and burnt up a good portion of my (wife's) privacy fence. :cry: My daughter called 911 when she thought dad wouldn't be able to put it out. I got a swift lecture from the fire department but no citation.

that explaines your love for ou>>>:)

Finfeatherfur 10-19-2010 10:12 AM

:*****::*****::*****::*****:
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Originally Posted by goldenrod (Post 201015)
that explaines your love for ou>>>:)


Wag 10-19-2010 10:24 AM

I wouldn't burn right now, ban is for a reason.... if something did happen and it got out of control, you would be liable for damages.

Finfeatherfur 10-19-2010 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Wag (Post 201031)
I wouldn't burn right now, ban is for a reason.... if something did happen and it got out of control, you would be liable for damages.


Your no fun..........no fun at all!!!!!!!!!!

R-T-GO 10-19-2010 10:52 AM

I like the Rye Grass Idea. BURN IT!!!!!!!!!

Fines cant be that Much.

adamsfence 10-19-2010 11:27 AM

my dads been burning brush piles for a week.....on about day number 4 this plane kept circling his place over and over. he said not long after allen parish sheriff came up and gave him a lecture no ticket. didn't do no good my dad was burning the next day. they ain't been back

Finfeatherfur 10-19-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by adamsfence (Post 201064)
my dads been burning brush piles for a week.....on about day number 4 this plane kept circling his place over and over. he said not long after allen parish sheriff came up and gave him a lecture no ticket. didn't do no good my dad was burning the next day. they ain't been back


I just love fiesty old men!!!!! That's how I'm gonna be!!! I will be the old fart calling the law when someone is speeding on my road, then kicking the law man in the knee when he comes talk to me about shooting old stray dogs!!! Shake his hand for me!

longsidelandry 10-19-2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Finfeatherfur (Post 201067)
I just love fiesty old men!!!!! That's how I'm gonna be!!! I will be the old fart calling the law when someone is speeding on my road, then kicking the law man in the knee when he comes talk to me about shooting old stray dogs!!! Shake his hand for me!

:*****::*****::*****:

Feesherman 10-19-2010 02:26 PM

You could say your lawnmower backfired and poof, it all bursted into flames.

Or, you could say an ember from them burning fields must have landed and caught your place on fire.

82whaler 10-19-2010 04:30 PM

Don't know about LA but over here in FL as long as your cooking there is nothing the authorities can do about a fire. So its a Hot Dog on a coat hanger wire.

wtretrievers 10-19-2010 04:41 PM

Do like my Dad did years ago:shaking: He let the ditch get grown up real bad & decide to burn it instead trying to cut it. The fire got away from him went up a telephone pole like it was dipped in gasoline!:eek: Someone called the FD & they arrived & put it out, he told them someone must have thrown out a cigerette:smokin:, the fireman said in three different spots:cool: fireman just shook his head got in his truck & left.

SULPHITE 10-19-2010 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wtretrievers (Post 201154)
Do like my Dad did years ago:shaking: He let the ditch get grown up real bad & decide to burn it instead trying to cut it. The fire got away from him went up a telephone pole like it was dipped in gasoline!:eek: Someone called the FD & they arrived & put it out, he told them someone must have thrown out a cigerette:smokin:, the fireman said in three different spots:cool: fireman just shook his head got in his truck & left.

"Must've been a heavy smoker!"

LaAngler 10-19-2010 04:49 PM

Years ago I was burning some empty corn sacks up in the tx hill country after filling feeders. The wind lifted a lit one out of my barrel and it landed in the tall dry grass. About 5 minutes later I was looking at 20-40 foot flames, ended up burning several hundred acres or more, including a barn.

I remember driving my truck through fire to get off of the property to safety.

wtretrievers 10-19-2010 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 201156)
Years ago I was burning some empty corn sacks up in the tx hill country after filling feeders. The wind lifted a lit one out of my barrel and it landed in the tall dry grass. About 5 minutes later I was looking at 20-40 foot flames, ended up burning several hundred acres or more, including a barn.

I remember driving my truck through fire to get off of the property to safety.

Made for a good shooting lane though! Didn't it?

longsidelandry 10-19-2010 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wtretrievers (Post 201166)
Made for a good shooting lane though! Didn't it?

Makes one helluva food plot!!

jchief 10-19-2010 05:39 PM

The agriculture burns are permitted provided the person has been to a school teaching them what they must do to burn.

There is no legal way around the ban that I am aware of.

As someone said earlier, if you are burning, ban or not, and the fire damages someone elses property you could be found liable for damages and also may be charged with arson.

rkent 10-19-2010 06:15 PM

Hire you a certified prescribed burner. We have burned almost everday since the ban was imposed.

Hebert 10-19-2010 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rkent (Post 201178)
Hire you a certified prescribed burner. We have burned almost everday since the ban was imposed.

good idea...what do you think one would charge for 5 acres? its completely disked up around... also there is chances of rain from sunday to wednesday so ban "should" be lifted next week..

aquaholic78 10-19-2010 08:04 PM

burn it at night dude

jchief 10-19-2010 08:09 PM

It is going to take a few inches to get this "drought" under control and it needs to be over a few days.

eman 10-19-2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hebert (Post 201180)
good idea...what do you think one would charge for 5 acres? its completely disked up around... also there is chances of rain from sunday to wednesday so ban "should" be lifted next week..

don't count on that w/o 5 " spread over a couple days


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