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biggun 07-18-2011 06:57 PM

School Board Leases.
 
Just got back from a committe meeting with the Vermilion Parish School Board.

Me and 5 friends were their to place a bid for a school board section So. of Pecan Island. Not even a full section about 465 acres.

The present lease holder had the proir 5 years for about $6,800/yr.

4 bids. Our's was read 2 nd. $15,500. The leassors had a partner (Member), bid against him. 31K.

The leasse holder bid $37,000. That's F ing CRAZY.

COULD NOT BELIEVE IT. Can any of you believe that Money!

Biggun

PaulMyers 07-18-2011 07:01 PM

Easy to believe if the hunting is any good. It's done got stupid!:eek:

Super Spook 07-18-2011 07:06 PM

Dudes with big checkbooks pay big money to consistantly kill birds. I would if I had the cheese. That is crazy though. Is that lease that good?

speck-chaser 07-18-2011 07:10 PM

company write off!!!!

PaulMyers 07-18-2011 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by speck-chaser (Post 288824)
company write off!!!!

Got to make money to write it off. Big money for that kind of write off.

Asterisk-Rich 07-18-2011 07:24 PM

if i had the money i would pay it...that area is prime!

wtretrievers 07-18-2011 07:30 PM

That's what's killing our sport for the middle class man.... Its all about the money!!!! These hunting shows aren't helping! Everyone wants to be like them.....kill big bucks & lots of ducks!

speck-chaser 07-18-2011 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulMyers (Post 288827)
Got to make money to write it off. Big money for that kind of write off.


Plenty of companies out there can easily fork out the g's for something like that to take a few customers on a few hunts.

BIGJ 07-18-2011 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wtretrievers (Post 288836)
That's what's killing our sport for the middle class man.... Its all about the money!!!! These hunting shows aren't helping! Everyone wants to be like them.....kill big bucks & lots of ducks!

This is so true. This is the first year in my life that I'm not in a hunting lease. Greed has taken the sportsmanship and fun out of it. I say let'em have it.

CajunSaint 07-18-2011 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGJ (Post 288841)
This is so true. This is the first year in my life that I'm not in a hunting lease. Greed has taken the sportsmanship and fun out of it. I say let'em have it.

Maybe the WMA's will be a little thinner??
Bigj Howed you guys do in GI our trip sucked too many problems to post...

Raymond 07-18-2011 08:31 PM

Should be an outstanding property but $ don't work considering it's only 465 acres. All the bottoms leases are in llc's to charge back those crazy dollas. Options are only pubic land and that isn't much of an option n my book.

BIGJ 07-18-2011 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CajunSaint (Post 288866)
Maybe the WMA's will be a little thinner??
Bigj Howed you guys do in GI our trip sucked too many problems to post...

Did good Thur. evening and Friday in the rain. Saturday and Sunday was a little slow. You should have passed by.

specktator 07-18-2011 09:26 PM

Big money down in PI. Doctors, lawyers, politicians, etc. My uncle's lease just came back up for bid. No telling what he paid. Might be the same lease u are talking about.

evidrine 07-18-2011 11:15 PM

Is it only some parishes that lease out school board property? Because I know for some places all you need is a permit to hunt it and pretty much anyone can get one.

Raymond 07-19-2011 07:32 AM

I have never witnessed any free hunting on any school board property in the state. Lease payments are used in each boards general fund. With the deficits most boards operate under I doubt any would allow users free access when they can get top dollar. Never have and never will enter the school board bidding wars, I have always believed this system is rigged.

Super Spook 07-19-2011 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 288883)
Should be an outstanding property but $ don't work considering it's only 465 acres. All the bottoms leases are in llc's to charge back those crazy dollas. Options are only pubic land and that isn't much of an option n my book.


Why do you say public land is not much of an option?? I know tons of people that hunt WMA's and do really well consistantly. Yes the hunting is a little more work, but usually produces plenty of quality ducks.

evidrine 07-19-2011 08:45 AM

St. Landy parish gives a permit to hunt school board property. Its free. You go to the office and fill out a sheet. Its not a big piece of land, but good location.

evidrine 07-19-2011 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Spook (Post 289084)
Why do you say public land is not much of an option?? I know tons of people that hunt WMA's and do really well consistantly. Yes the hunting is a little more work, but usually produces plenty of quality ducks.

Big deer come out of WMA's. It takes time to scout it and to know how to hunt it. I just feel safer knowing im on my own lease and who is there with me. I've climbed too many trees on WMA's to find out once the sun comes up that there is someone sitting a couple hundred yards away from me in another tree. When they are ready to go, they climb down, fire up a four wheeler down the trail, and make all kinds of racket on their way out. It can be good hunting, just takes time and patience.

Raymond 07-19-2011 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Spook (Post 289084)
Why do you say public land is not much of an option?? I know tons of people that hunt WMA's and do really well consistantly. Yes the hunting is a little more work, but usually produces plenty of quality ducks.

1. I duck hunt only,WMA,NWR's are not managed for the hunter to kill ducks on.
2. Pressure, the same idiots I see on the lake are on the refuge systems wandering around clueless.
3. At 45 I have done my time hunting public,if that is all there is I would rather sell my equipment and find another hobby.

DUCKGOGETTER 07-19-2011 11:44 AM

Raymond i'm just like you i'm done with hunting the refuges. Nothing wrong with it, cause i can remember pounding the ducks in sabine back in my younger days.

Super Spook 07-19-2011 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 289186)
1. I duck hunt only,WMA,NWR's are not managed for the hunter to kill ducks on.
2. Pressure, the same idiots I see on the lake are on the refuge systems wandering around clueless.
3. At 45 I have done my time hunting public,if that is all there is I would rather sell my equipment and find another hobby.


I understand your frustration with WMAs and finding a lease. I have been trying to find a decent lease since Rita and grew up hunting WMAs. I just hate to see people quit hunting because of all the obstacles that are presented to us now. Something good will come up eventually.

I gave up a lease in JB in 07 and ducks were nonexistant there for 4 years before that. They absolutely hammered ducks last year out there and several of those leases were leased by new leasees last year.

DUCKGOGETTER 07-19-2011 01:38 PM

I will never quit duck hunting for sure, and if all i had was to hunt the wmas i would if i couldn't find a lease.

Shawn Braquet 07-19-2011 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Spook (Post 289406)
I understand your frustration with WMAs and finding a lease. I have been trying to find a decent lease since Rita and grew up hunting WMAs. I just hate to see people quit hunting because of all the obstacles that are presented to us now. Something good will come up eventually.

I gave up a lease in JB in 07 and ducks were nonexistant there for 4 years before that. They absolutely hammered ducks last year out there and several of those leases were leased by new leasees last year.

Yes we did

duckfreak 07-19-2011 05:02 PM

Same Here
 
A couple of years ago I was able to participate on a section near FWC, the previous 5 yrs it was going for 5,000yr, so I Bid $6500.00. There were only two bidders myself and the previous leasers, they bid $13,000.00. I was like WTH:eek:. Too rich for my blood.

specktator 07-19-2011 05:49 PM

I know some guys that were paying $15000.00 (1000 acres or so) for a lease in PI. They crush the ducks. One of the best leases around. Land owner went up to $27000.00 on them the next year cause he knew people would pay it. And they sucked it up and pay it.

Montauk17 07-19-2011 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by specktator (Post 289619)
I know some guys that were paying $15000.00 (1000 acres or so) for a lease in PI. They crush the ducks. One of the best leases around. Land owner went up to $27000.00 on them the next year cause he knew people would pay it. And they sucked it up and pay it.

WOW!! That is insane!

all star rod 07-19-2011 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Montauk17 (Post 289624)
WOW!! That is insane!

Matter of Supply and Demand.......
If I had them money and killing a lot of birds I would pay it to!

southern151 07-19-2011 07:29 PM

I'll go buy it befor I spend that much! This is why I don't hunt down here. The most I ever paid for a lease back home was working cattle for a day or making weld repairs on farm equipment. There's no way I would pay what these dudes want!

J.D.L 07-19-2011 07:37 PM

If the state would manage what public habitat we have for ducks and/or allow access or even limited access to some of the better state owned lands, like White Lake, this "big money" duck hunting world we live in down here would be alleviated some...

wtretrievers 07-19-2011 08:05 PM

Ive seen blinds go for $10k a piece just south of Deer Park along the Ms river.....all doctors. That was probably 10 years ago. One of the blinds used to be Fred Parnells, some the BR folks will know who that is.

Marshrat 07-19-2011 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duckfreak (Post 289597)
A couple of years ago I was able to participate on a section near FWC, the previous 5 yrs it was going for 5,000yr, so I Bid $6500.00. There were only two bidders myself and the previous leasers, they bid $13,000.00. I was like WTH:eek:. Too rich for my blood.


I was told by someone that was bidding on some school board property that he and members of his group would each put in a bid. If there was no one bidding against them, the lowest bidder would leave his bid and the others would retract their bids. If others were there bidding on the same property, they would leave their bids in and hope the other bids would be read first so they would know which bid to retract.


Warren

Duck Butter 07-19-2011 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.D.L (Post 289664)
If the state would manage what public habitat we have for ducks and/or allow access or even limited access to some of the better state owned lands, like White Lake, this "big money" duck hunting world we live in down here would be alleviated some...

You have access to over thousands of acres of hunting all across the state for less than $50 a year. Kinda makes those rich folks that will pay $X to hunt in the same place every single day, look silly:spineyes:

shellman 07-19-2011 08:44 PM

Biggun the old lease owner has a monopoly on it and knows exactly what to bid on it.Just like all old conoco property between kaplan and guedan the trahans will continue to rule....

Ducktrickster 07-19-2011 09:11 PM

I was told that in vermillion parish the previous year's lease holder has the option to match the highest bid to keep the lease.

all star rod 07-19-2011 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 289696)
You have access to over thousands of acres of hunting all across the state for less than $50 a year. Kinda makes those rich folks that will pay $X to hunt in the same place every single day, look silly:spineyes:


If it were that easy, a lot of hunters would do it. You can have the public land and I will keep my 5K lease!


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