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Ray 07-28-2011 08:04 PM

Black Tide on Animal Planet right now
 
It's a special about how people of La. dealt with the oil spill.
Not sure how it will be, but gonna watch it.

PaulMyers 07-28-2011 08:11 PM

I'm at work, you got a way to record it for me?

EVO

Ray 07-28-2011 08:18 PM

I can on the DVR. Not sure how to get it off the DVR and to a tape/disk.
When you get off and I am off, you can come see it here in Lake Charles.

"W" 07-28-2011 08:18 PM

I'm sure its a go green....poor people...let's get welfare and oil killed everything,I made 500,000 shrimping last year but can't find my trip tickets because the oil ate them,,,,, BP is the Devil,,,,, you killed 90 sea gulls out of 10 Billion on the coast..... Something in that range... So I will not watch it

Ray 07-28-2011 08:22 PM

They are not crying for money, yet.
They are showing how it was cleaned up.
Dispersants breaks it up so bacteria can eat it faster... ect.
They are showing a few tree huggers.
Just a few 1000 bbls. of dispersant in trillions of bbls. of salt water is very minor.
If they didn't use the dispersant, they would still be fighting the oil.

Ray 07-28-2011 08:24 PM

They are saying that the GOM seafood is the most tested seafood in the world right now. The seafood is clean.

Then I want to know why they don't test chineese and vietnamese seafood before coming into the U.S.

"W" 07-28-2011 08:25 PM

Only down fall...it did not kill off another 50,000 seas gulls

CajunSaint 07-28-2011 09:19 PM

All the dispersants did was make the sheen smaller? And not be as visible. Am I wrong? If I am please enlighten me! Ive been out of the loop for a long time.

"W" 07-28-2011 09:40 PM

Bacteria in the gulf ate it all up... Which took a week after it was shut down.....

CajunSaint 07-28-2011 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 295627)
Bacteria in the gulf ate it all up... Which took a week after it was shut down.....

Explain please???

boatdriver 07-28-2011 09:45 PM

Mixed feelings
 
This was a good show. I thought that these commercial fisherman were being honest, not looking for a handout. As one crabber stated, "$25,000. WHat good is that gonna do for me? Who's gonna pay me 10 years later when there aren't any crabs?" I agree with him. $25,000 is nothing in that time frame. But, on the other hand, he can go out and get another job, if needed. I really think BP paid the tip of the iceberg, so to say, and skipped town. It's there fault. I think they should make it right with the folks down there.

Austin(boatman's son) 07-28-2011 09:47 PM

watchin xgames but i did watch that for bout 10 minutes

Bluechip 07-28-2011 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boatdriver (Post 295631)
This was a good show. I thought that these commercial fisherman were being honest, not looking for a handout. As one crabber stated, "$25,000. WHat good is that gonna do for me? Who's gonna pay me 10 years later when there aren't any crabs?" I agree with him. $25,000 is nothing in that time frame. But, on the other hand, he can go out and get another job, if needed. I really think BP paid the tip of the iceberg, so to say, and skipped town. It's there fault. I think they should make it right with the folks down there.

I agree....

Top Dawg 07-28-2011 09:53 PM

Just saw what they were showing as oil contaminated mud was simply black marsh mud

booyagasha 07-28-2011 10:04 PM

people are still waiting for their money from bp, and what is bp saying? "to end all payments and future payments" it is nothing for a shirmper to pull in 100k a month, (well was)you do the math. truth of the matter is yes, bp oil spill did muck things up, and they sure as hell didnt make everything "whole" like they said.


i understand the saying," dont bite the hand that feeds you".....but damn

wetaline 07-28-2011 10:09 PM

that was a good show. hard to believe it's been over a year.

PaulMyers 07-28-2011 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray (Post 295577)
I can on the DVR. Not sure how to get it off the DVR and to a tape/disk.
When you get off and I am off, you can come see it here in Lake Charles.

Thanks Ray, that sounds great. I appreciate it.

EVO

"W" 07-29-2011 06:44 AM

their will be no long term effects on Crabs,shrimp or fishing due to this spill..........That is crazy!!! You probably cant even find any oil right now ....With hot summer waters it is gone.......

BP paid more than what was needed to the people who needed it...


I know a guide down there who said this year was the best inshore fishing ever ......

"W" 07-29-2011 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CajunSaint (Post 295628)
Explain please???

Scientists Find Oil-Eating Bacteria Plentiful in Deep Gulf Waters



Oil-eating bacteria exist in significant quantities even in the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico, and may be breaking down submerged oil from the Deepwater Horizon oil leak faster than previously believed, scientists are reporting today.
The bacteria were found in a plume of microscopic oil droplets more than 3,000 feet below the surface, in the vicinity of BP’s blown-out well, by a group of scientists led by Terry Hazen, a senior ecologist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. Their presence may have been overlooked by other researchers because the variety found in the plume do not seem to be consuming much oxygen from the water column, unlike most oil-digesting bacteria, the scientists said.
In previous surveys of the plume, researchers measured dissolved oxygen levels in the water to determine bacterial activity.
“Conventional methods of estimating bio-degradation, which are based on oxygen levels, may overlook these bugs’ contribution,” the researchers said in a statement.
The discovery adds a new wrinkle to the debate over the fate of submerged oil from BP’s massive well blowout. In recent weeks, independent scientists sharply questioned a federal report estimating that the remaining oil from the spill was degrading quickly in the gulf. Federal scientists pushed back hard, asserting that their estimates were conservative and based on intensive field research and computer modeling.
The latest report, released early by the journal Science to coincide with a conference in Seattle, does not address the amount of oil that remains in the deep ocean or how much oil has been degraded by bacteria. But the findings do indicate that microbial communities in the deep waters of the gulf may be adapting quickly to the presence of oil and could play a major role in breaking down the oil plumes, which radiate for dozens of miles from the BP wellhead.

"W" 07-29-2011 06:49 AM

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Oil-eating bacteria proliferated below the surface of the Gulf of Mexico this summer, helping to break down and clean up an underwater oil plume that stretched miles from the Deepwater Horizon wellhead, according to a study released Tuesday by the journal Science.
The study is the latest update in the ongoing debate over what has happened to the bulk of the 4.9 million barrels of oil that spilled from the well, and it suggests that the oil may be disappearing relatively quickly from the deep-sea environment.
Just last week, researchers at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution confirmed that much of the oil from the spill ended up suspended in a deep-sea cloud near the wellhead, rather than floating to the surface of the water. They released the most precise map yet of a 1.2-mile-wide plume of microscopic oil compounds that floated 3,000 feet below the surface of the water.
But the map was based on data taken in June, before the well was capped. It didn't address what has happened to that underwater oil since the leak stopped, and how much now remains in the ocean. Oil-eating microbes are plentiful in the Gulf of Mexico, helping to break down oil from natural seeps. But no one is sure how fast that breakdown is occurring with the unprecedented amount of oil deep underwater in the Gulf, where the cold temperatures -- about 5 degrees Celsius -- could slow down the process.
In Tuesday's study, microbiologist Terry Hazen and his colleagues at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory looked at the amounts and types of bacteria in the oil plume at the end of May and beginning of June. They found that a type of oil-eating bacteria adapted to the cold water was twice as plentiful inside the oil plume as outside, and that these bacteria -- a newly-discovered species related to the Oceanospirillales -- made up 90 percent of all the bacteria in the oil plume. The researchers also found DNA and fatty acids in the water that are signs of oil breaking down.
They also found that the bacteria were breaking down the oil without depleting the oxygen level in the water as much as expected. That's an important wrinkle, because last week's study by the Woods Hole researchers found that the oxygen supply in the plume water remained high, avoiding the feared deoxygenated "dead zone" harmful to plants and animals. But the new study suggests that despite the fact that oxygen levels remained high in the water, the bacteria were still hard at work.
"The findings are consistent with each other -- which I think is pretty neat to see," says Richard Camilli, a researcher at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution and the lead author of last week's study.
The new evidence of oil-eating bacteria in the plume adds to the ongoing debate over how fast the deep-sea oil is disappearing. The federal government said earlier this month that such deepwater dispersed oil was biodegrading quickly, and that 75 percent of the spilled oil had been accounted for. Some outside researchers, however, have questioned that conclusion, arguing that the oil is biodegrading more slowly than the government scientists assume. Tuesday's study seems to offer some support for the government's findings.
In fact, Hazen says that he and his team have continued their monitoring throughout the summer, and that as of about three weeks ago the oil plume was no longer detectable.
"We've been out there continuously," he says. "Once the oil flow stopped on July 15, within two weeks we saw most of the plume disappear."
Ian MacDonald, an oceanographer at Florida State University, says that the new study is good news.
"It certainly shows that the microbial community can and is responding to this addition of oil to the deep water," he says.
However, he cautions that many questions remain unanswered -- such as what has happened to the methane released into the water along with the oil, what percentage of the total oil released ended up in this deep-sea plume, and the environmental effects of changing the deep-sea microbial community.

booyagasha 07-29-2011 10:07 AM

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/eve...p-still-tries-
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/04/08-5
http://blog.al.com/live/2010/07/bp_b...tists_for.html
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/201...e-public-2302/

if you work/worked/will work for bp or its subsidiaries, of course you will take their side . understandable, you dont bite the hand that feeds you, but at the same time, don't chastised others that were affected , and have no other choice but beg for the pennies on the dollar that bp are paying

booyagasha 07-29-2011 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 295725)
their will be no long term effects on Crabs,shrimp or fishing due to this spill..........That is crazy!!! You probably cant even find any oil right now ....With hot summer waters it is gone.......

BP paid more than what was needed to the people who needed it...


I know a guide down there who said this year was the best inshore fishing ever ......

i like how you left out oyster purpose

Duck Butter 07-29-2011 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 295725)
their will be no long term effects on Crabs,shrimp or fishing due to this spill..........That is crazy!!! You probably cant even find any oil right now ....With hot summer waters it is gone.......

BP paid more than what was needed to the people who needed it...


I know a guide down there who said this year was the best inshore fishing ever ......

One year of good fishing is nothing. The future is what we need to look out for. Bacteria did not eat up all the oil, there is much of it on the bottom of the seafloor. No one really knows what is going to happen with that oil down there, so much is unknown when it comes to larval cycles of marine animals and what all crawls along the seafloor down there. Maybe we will not see any future effects from the oil, BUT its still there. Just be glad you were not affected by the spill, like the thousands who were

eman 07-29-2011 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 295725)
their will be no long term effects on Crabs,shrimp or fishing due to this spill..........That is crazy!!! You probably cant even find any oil right now ....With hot summer waters it is gone.......

BP paid more than what was needed to the people who needed it...


I know a guide down there who said this year was the best inshore fishing ever ......

Please tell me this guides name and where he fishes?

toodeep 07-29-2011 12:43 PM

does any one know if it will play again or not. just for the record there is still oil in the marsh around four bayou as of about a month ago when i was down that way that is not going anywhere.

Ray 07-30-2011 11:08 AM

I have been working offshore for 28 years. I agree with what some of BP says, and think some of it is bull****.
I support the oil industry, cause it supports the economy of where I live and around where I live.
But in my opinion, BP screwed up. They had a bad well design, they tried to cut cost cause they were over budget. The company rep. on the rig makes the final decisions, he made some bad ones.

I think some of the people interviewed from Grand Isle are looking for cash too.
I fished Grand Isle after the blow out, and while most of the area was still closed.
I saw sheens and oil on the water, but couldn't smell it. I didn't get harmed in any way.
Several times in my career, I have been covered from head to toe in crude, had to throw away my clothes and boots, it never harmed me yet.

There was one girl that said her ears were bleeding, one guy said he had growths on his face, others saying the lining of their lungs were damaged... I call crap.
The blowout was 50 miles East of SW Pass and they are 50 miles West of SW Pass.

I agree there was oil all over Grand Isle, but not enough to harm anyone that stayed out of it.

If my lungs are stilll good and my ears are not bleeding after all the crude and condensate I have had on me all these years, then no one on Grand Isle should have any damage either.

BP put monitors on their workers, over 40K monitors, and none picked up any damaging chemicals.

The light ends like benzene were withered off by the sun before it got to the beaches.

I think the show was good, they showed both sides, tree huggers and non tree huggers.

"W" 07-30-2011 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 295896)
One year of good fishing is nothing. The future is what we need to look out for. Bacteria did not eat up all the oil, there is much of it on the bottom of the seafloor. No one really knows what is going to happen with that oil down there, so much is unknown when it comes to larval cycles of marine animals and what all crawls along the seafloor down there. Maybe we will not see any future effects from the oil, BUT its still there. Just be glad you were not affected by the spill, like the thousands who were


Who was affected got paid....this is no long term effect and I touch and smell oil half a year...I pull oil samples daily and have for 11 years....Never got sick take a physical once a year and the only health problem I have is high cholesterol and if oil did that its Bush fault ....

No one go sick from this oil..only cash hungry people looking for a pay out


Like Ray..I have been covered head to toe in oil...even had it go in my mouth before...Never once got sick...and find someone offshore who has gotten sick because of oil smell or being around oil.....


No one can find any oil in the Gulf...Your not...its gone.....gone..gone....

And I dont know how they can blame BP for this because the BOP failed...so any mistakes above should of been stopped by this device


Here is the final video of the failure...So all what happened when and were could of been prevented by this device

http://www.deepwater.com/fw/main/Blow-Out-Preventer-(BOP)-1079.html

"W" 07-30-2011 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eman (Post 295898)
Please tell me this guides name and where he fishes?


He fished from Grand Isle to Burres and he is a member on this site...If he wants to say his name....He can..

He told me the fishing has been the best in 10years and shrimp are thick in the marshes.....He also said he spoke with several scientist that took his fish for sampling and also took shrimp...everything over the last year is clean and 100% safe with no harm....


Oil leaks in the gulf everyday by mother nature....Oil is earth....Get over it....its over and gone...

eman 07-30-2011 11:45 AM

Was nothing to do w/ the oil . I know plenty of guides in the G.I.area that say this year is not a bad year but is sub par from past years. Wondering who it was so i could see if he's doing something different. I been fishing the island for over 40 years and i promise you that the years around 2000-2003 were alot better than any in the last 6 years. I am not calling B.S. till i talk to this guide.

"W" 07-30-2011 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eman (Post 296424)
Was nothing to do w/ the oil . I know plenty of guides in the G.I.area that say this year is not a bad year but is sub par from past years. Wondering who it was so i could see if he's doing something different. I been fishing the island for over 40 years and i promise you that the years around 2000-2003 were alot better than any in the last 6 years. I am not calling B.S. till i talk to this guide.


I know this...He was down in Grand Isle a week ago when the winds were calm..He texted me several days with 75-100 trout by 9am-10am....

"W" 07-30-2011 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booyagasha (Post 295879)
i like how you left out oyster purpose


Oysters are man made and reseeded on that side of the state....they have been tested and passed also....The few beds that were covers with oil were taken out or removed ......

LA oysters are on the market

booyagasha 07-30-2011 12:37 PM

it doesnt make any sense to have studies when there is clearly a conflict of interest, in the studies , and in the claims process---bp has their hand in everything!! they made sure of that at the beginning and have even influenced politicians, and yes, even the coast guardies

"W" 07-30-2011 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booyagasha (Post 296439)
it doesnt make any sense to have studies when there is clearly a conflict of interest, in the studies , and in the claims process---bp has their hand in everything!! they made sure of that at the beginning and have even influenced politicians, and yes, even the coast guardies


Stop Smoking it..............all those links you posted are liberal tree hugger links.....

What about the seafood guy from Grand Isle who hired his own scientist from up north and they could not find anything...out of 100olbs of shrimp, over 500 crabs.....over 500 kinds of fish??? I guess BP paid them off behind the back.....

Get real....

Duck Butter 07-30-2011 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toodeep (Post 295986)
does any one know if it will play again or not. just for the record there is still oil in the marsh around four bayou as of about a month ago when i was down that way that is not going anywhere.


You see there 'W', there IS still oil:eek: There is oil along Pass-a-Loutre as well. There is oil on the bottom of the ocean also. Will we ever see it or will it affect us? Who knows!

I agree that much of this was very much overplayed and there are lots of people getting paid that shouldn't. The media tried to spin it every way they could to make it seem like the world was going to end, at first they reported barrels of oil, then that was not a big enough scare so they started saying gallons in order to make it a much bigger number to add to the shock and awe. Whatever the true number of gallons that were leaked out, it is a drop in the bucket of the GOM.

booyagasha 07-30-2011 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 296442)
Stop Smoking it..............all those links you posted are liberal tree hugger links.....

What about the seafood guy from Grand Isle who hired his own scientist from up north and they could not find anything...out of 100olbs of shrimp, over 500 crabs.....over 500 kinds of fish??? I guess BP paid them off behind the back.....

Get real....

and the links you posted...wait , you didnt post any links..u just copy and pasted...:work: first of all you clearly have a conflict of interest also, you're on the fricken other side of the state.very close to .texas almost...you can't tell me people aint' hurting, you can't tell me (not just oyster harvesters----shuckers also) but that probably dont mean sschat to you... my mom is a shucker and work definitely has slowed dramatically since the spill. remember, we know you're not trying to bite the hand thatfeeds you, but also remember this...closed mouths don't get fed, and in the case of bp, nobody got fed.


?
ps..oh yeah i worked the spill, and i seen and experienced the ludicrous/ridiculous attempt at "trying" to clean it up.what did you do?

Jordan 07-30-2011 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 296422)
He fished from Grand Isle to Burres and he is a member on this site...If he wants to say his name....He can..

He told me the fishing has been the best in 10years and shrimp are thick in the marshes.....He also said he spoke with several scientist that took his fish for sampling and also took shrimp...everything over the last year is clean and 100% safe with no harm....


Oil leaks in the gulf everyday by mother nature....Oil is earth....Get over it....its over and gone...


Buras !!!!!!!

Wide Open 07-30-2011 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 296432)
Oysters are man made and reseeded on that side of the state....they have been tested and passed also....The few beds that were covers with oil were taken out or removed ......

LA oysters are on the market

Since when r oysters man made?

Jordan 07-30-2011 02:39 PM

THey always have been.... you didnt know that ???


Whats wrong with you people. "W" is ALWAYS right !!!!!!!!!!!

Wide Open 07-30-2011 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booyagasha (Post 296489)
and the links you posted...wait , you didnt post any links..u just copy and pasted...:work: first of all you clearly have a conflict of interest also, you're on the fricken other side of the state.very close to .texas almost...you can't tell me people aint' hurting, you can't tell me (not just oyster harvesters----shuckers also) but that probably dont mean sschat to you... my mom is a shucker and work definitely has slowed dramatically since the spill. remember, we know you're not trying to bite the hand thatfeeds you, but also remember this...closed mouths don't get fed, and in the case of bp, nobody got fed.


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ps..oh yeah i worked the spill, and i seen and experienced the ludicrous/ridiculous attempt at "trying" to clean it up.what did you do?

X2! I was one of the first boats to work after the spill all the way from bay st. louis, to grand I , and saw more than what many could ever belive. Any body who thinks all that oil just dissapeared , is clearly mistaken. How much do you wann see, and when? I had High ranking CG officals on my boat for 30 days, who were scared ****leess at how much oil I could find in a days time, and more day after day. Barataria to Venice, all the way to breton sound has been my stomping ground for the last 27 yrs of my 30, on the water, and if you did not witness it with your own two eyes, you just dont know, and still dont. I honesty thought after last year, our estuary would not bounce back nearly as fast as it did, but its something ive never seen or dealt with befor either. No I dont think its comepletyely over, but am impressed with how well it is at the same time. There is definately still oil out there still, ive seen it on our beaches and in our marsh just as of 5 days ago, you just have to look. some is visable, and some has to be dug up. Come on out of your pond on the west side, and head this way if you wanna see some sad **** before you make false accusations. Im not trying to start problems, Im just stating cold hard facts boys and girls.

Wide Open 07-30-2011 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 296498)
THey always have been.... you didnt know that ???


Whats wrong with you people. "W" is ALWAYS right !!!!!!!!!!!

:shaking: They r reseaded in some places by man, but were here before a bunch of W's

"W" 07-30-2011 03:15 PM

Just because you worked the oil spill dont mean crap.....go find us some oil and show me where its on the bottom of the gulf??


Just like a show they aired a few months back

took that robot deal and went down 7000ft at the well site and said....WOW no life everything is dead and ........ But they did not go 100 miles over in the same 7000ft of water to find out that nothing lives in that 7000ft of water and it all looks the same

Funny how none of you heard or seen the oil in the gulf after Rita and Katrina.....It never affected anyone but yet we had more oil and chemicals in the gulf than this whole spill...It was just spread out farther... Plus with all the platforms that were lost...Do you know what is on a platform besides oil?????


And BP Paid more than it was worth to legit claims..


Hell we had guys in Big Lake who filed clams due to lack of business when all the other guide company had to turn people away due to over booked

Then you had guys who never paid taxes for 10 years who wanted to clam half a million dollars in lost profit but showed 7,000 the last 10 years

And all the "Im Sick" is crap.....


Yes somethings took a lick.....Stores,guides,seafood,commercial fisherman

These people were paid and could get jobs with BP....


If you work at Wal Mart you can not sue..because of BP oil spill....

"W" 07-30-2011 03:19 PM

OIL IS AN NATURAL SUBSTANCE FROM THE EARTH....BOTTOM LINE

Fumes from your car is more dangers than Crude Oil

"W" 07-30-2011 03:21 PM

Newser) – Everyone seems to be calling the Deepwater Horizon spill the worst environmental disaster ever, but rumors of the Gulf’s death may be greatly exaggerated, writes Michael Grunwald of TIME. While there could be long-term ramifications from the spill, the damage so far actually looks pretty modest. It’s killed less than 1% as many birds as the Exxon Valdez spill, for example, and the region’s fish and shrimp have so far tested clean. As for Louisiana’s marshes, the spill affected only about 350 acres of wetlands that were already disappearing at a rate of 15,000 acres a year thanks to oil and gas industry pipelines. One LSU professor likens the spill to “a sunburn on a cancer patient.” This is lighter crude than the Exxon spilled, experts explain, and Mississippi river currents are keeping it off the coast. “We're not seeing catastrophic impacts,” says one marine scientist. “There’s a lot of hype, but no evidence to justify it

"W" 07-30-2011 03:26 PM

Love this Guy...he tells it right

Oil spill tragedy: tragically over-hyped


By John Stapleton IV
Online Editor

Give us a break already with the anti-BP oil spill diatribes. Without getting into the idiocy of blaming the owner of a rig for the operators' actions (like blaming McDonald's when you dump their coffee in your own lap), the whole outrage being generated by liberal media is unjustifiably deafening – there's oil spilling into the Gulf of Mexico people, not the Great Barrier Reef.
First and foremost, let's be honest: It's not devastating an intricate marine ecosystem. The Gulf has been so saturated with oil spills over the last fifty years that most people won't even swim in it, let alone eat from it. This goes double for nature, leaving the Gulf to the scavengers. So, it's not annihilating pods of humpback whales, it's killing sea gulls, and no one likes sea gulls anyway – they're like the pigeons of the sea. This limits its lethal range to roughly…jellyfish.
What exactly is the problem with fewer seagulls and fewer jellyfish? If anything, it's making the Gulf of Mexico more appealing, which is a pretty hard thing to accomplish in and of itself. This cesspool of oceanic wasteland is about as essential to our ecosystems as your un-flushed toilet water is to making a glass of lemonade.
Remember the last time you ate ANYTHING from the Gulf of Mexico? Of course not – there's nothing (safe) to eat there because the only things that thrive in the Gulf are oil companies. Ironically, the media hangs itself with its own rope by announcing that all the Gulf's seafood will have to be tested for safety – for decades – because of this spill, the irony being that if THIS spill makes seafood unsafe, the LAST spill makes it entirely inedible, and that would kind of prove my point.
If I hear one more pusillanimous liberal tell me this is the largest oil spill ever I'm just going to run towards the nearest living thing and beat it to death with a gas pump. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reports that Deepwater Horizon is belching a maximum of 19,000 barrels of oil per day, which puts the spill at roughly three quarters of a million gallons to date.
That's a lot of money floating around, but doesn't even come close to the LAST Gulf spill – the greatest accidental oil spill in the history of mankind – which NOAA assessed to be spewing over 30,000 barrels of oil into the Gulf every day – and not just every day, but every day for NINE MONTHS. The reason you never heard of Ixtoc I is because: A, it happened a lot closer to Mexico than Louisiana; and B, it dwarfs the Deepwater thing. Which makes the reporting media look like the bunch of sensationalist fear-mongers that they actually are.
This oil is LITERALLY more biodegradable than any of the stuff we turn it into and ESPECIALLY less harmful to the planet than the chemicals we're using to "clean it up." The media is telling people that BP has single-handedly destroyed the planet. Grow up. Much, much larger quantities of oil have been spilling into our waterways for centuries – waterways we actually eat from – and guess who's not dead yet? Us.
We live in America. We buy stuff – stuff that is largely comprised of petroleum-based products. Don't boycott BP, boycott all the companies that thrive on their petroleum. Stop wearing make up, smash your cell phone, give away your laptop, and trade your "eco-friendly" Prius in for a bicycle – with no tires.
Of course THAT won't happen, no one wants to sacrifice their OWN stuff, but you'll march around the BP station to protest the company that makes all of these products possible.
Look, as soon as someone figures out how to make a fully-functional Macbook out of leaves and hemp, let us know. Until then, stop being such a hypocrite. If you bought anything at all in the last decade that didn't grow out of the ground, you paid for BP to be here. Allowing BP to continue drilling is like choosing the lesser of two evils (if only one choice was actually evil): Would you rather have cheaper everything? Or more jellyfish?
Here's my point: if the liberals are right, and oil spills kill sea-life, then there hasn't been anything swimming in the Gulf for twenty years, so let's drill it. If the conservatives are right, then we need Gulf oil to make our economy affordable, so let's drill it.
In either case, it seems there is complete agreement that this Deepwater Horizon spill – while cataclysmically messy – will have the ecological impact of the thylacine extinction. Unless you want to pay $8 per gallon or start drilling off Santa Monica Pier, the drilling of this figurative sea of oilrigs (and recently, this literal sea of oil) needs to continue.
We can't fix the Gulf and it's not worth fixing anyway, but we need to insist that oil drilling stay limited to the Gulf. Essentially it comes down to this: since we can't stop consuming, we can at least STOP from making EVERY coast into the same mess by insisting we stick to drilling the Gulf.

Wide Open 07-30-2011 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 296508)
OIL IS AN NATURAL SUBSTANCE FROM THE EARTH....BOTTOM LINE

Fumes from your car is more dangers than Crude Oil

:rotfl:Damnit boy u sure get worked up huh!

eman 07-30-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 296429)
I know this...He was down in Grand Isle a week ago when the winds were calm..He texted me several days with 75-100 trout by 9am-10am....

In the good years most of the guides i know are cleaning their limits of 100 fish when we get back to the dock w/ our 75 trout at 9 am.
grand isle is not like big lake . a limit of fish is fairly easy for anyone who knows how to fish. If you know 3 spots to fish on any wind a limit is easy.
Live bait makes it even easier. A limit doesn't impress anyone at the cleaning tables but a limit of 2-3 lb trout is something.
Most of the guides down there take 4 guys out and catch a quick limit of
12 -14" trout and the sports are happy . I will take the word of guides who lives on the island and fishes G.I. every day over one who lives over on the east side and fishes it ocassionally.

booyagasha 07-30-2011 03:32 PM

w' come to this side and attend a town hall meeting. and tell these people what you telling us..I DARE YOU..the .west side is way more friendly bob than the east side..i can promise you that

Wide Open 07-30-2011 03:33 PM

I dont have the equipment nor the funds to search the ocean floor, for oil , but if you wish to see oil for yourself head to N. Barataria or the beaches of Barataria, its still there. Good luck on this one no more time for it. Im out for the evening!

"W" 07-30-2011 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by booyagasha (Post 296516)
w' come to this side and attend a town hall meeting. and tell these people what you telling us..I DARE YOU...west side is way more friendly bob this the east side..i can promise you that


NO....I seen them on you tube and it sounded like the biggest welfare run since Katrina...

There is one guy one here.....he post often who is from your side....He attended 3 meetings.....

and in a hand basket this was his reply

Dude..I cant go to anymore....Its like Katrina all over again but instead of government its BP fault....Half never worked and dont carry there own insurance and now they all sick but live 40 miles inland
its is a sicking to see our people fight for money they never had or need..but just to get it because it free.......
all of the commercial fisherman wanted 3 times what they made or showed last year! Wanted to throw up ...
Sad that trash will come out of the waters for free money instead of waking up getting on a boat and working for you money.....



He will read this and he can chime in....I have seen them on youtube and Im not a welfare person so I dont need to attend

"W" 07-30-2011 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by booyagasha (Post 296489)
you're not trying to bite the hand thatfeeds you, but also remember this...closed mouths don't get fed, and in the case of bp, nobody got fed.


One more thing...Your right dont bite the hand that feed you
So every

Crabber
Oyster man
Shrimper
Fisherman
Needs to get on his knees at night and than God for "us oil people"

Which with out "US" oil people they would not have a job to make money for
Who gives them gas and diesel for boats? What do they put in their trucks to get back and forth to work? How is their catches moved for sale?

With out "US Oil People" there would be no Seafood unless you caught it from the road ditch by walking their

And How come the So Called Seafood Hunters want to bash BP but yet I fly over them all the time to witness them dumping there bilge in to the same waters they turn around and catch in.....
(anyone who flys in the Gulf has witness this 100 times)


SO BEFORE YOU SAY....Dont bite the Hand that Feeds you..... Remember Oil feeds all of us!! So with out OIL the rest is irrelevant


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