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cajunsorc 12-29-2011 02:41 PM

Need EVERYONE'S Advice please help
 
I had posted on this site back in October that the farmer I lease from had a couple of blinds available. I had several replies from interested parties and both blinds were leased. The individuals that leased one of the blinds have been great---no issues and really get along with everyone and are very sportsmanlike hunters. The other individual is where my search for advice stems from. I spoke on several occasions with these people and told them that the farmer didn't like people that created issues for other hunters in the area. I spoke with this person(referred to as "SPORT" for the remainder of this story) on several occasions and politely asked them to quit shooting at the ducks so high(50-60+yds) and to let them work in closer. "SPORT" was shooting into bunches the first pass at 50yds and maybe crippling 1 instead of waiting for them to get "right" and killing 4 or 5. "SPORT's" response was "how do you know they will come in?" I explained that you don't ever really know but they are coming and squating in my decoys (less than a mile from his) and we are killing multiple birds out of each bunch. I also tried to explain to "SPORT" that each bunch you shoot at will not come back to the field for the rest of the season and by shooting em high you are really just "educating" lots of birds. I tried to explain to "SPORT" that if he worked the birds in close (like most "HUNTERS" do) he would have better success and better hunts. He totally disregarded me and continued to shoot at anything that would pass within 60yds. I also had to explain to "SPORT" that I respected his calling of birds and didn't try to pull birds from him that he was trying to work and that his staying on his speck call while I had specks decoying was beginning to frustrate me and asked if he would show the same respect to me I was showing to him(this he did stop doing). Early last week one of my lease partners (with Hunting Fool as a guest) were in my blind hunting and witnessed first hand "SPORT" shooting at every bunch of geese that flew over them (100-150yds high) and in turned flared several bunches of ducks that were working our blind. I contacted "SPORT" thinking surely he wasn't there-to which I recieved a voice message from "SPORT" as follows: "yeah, we were hunting this morning. Shot at a bunch of geese high. It was fun. Hope we didn't mess yall up too bad." My level of frustration has reached a boiling point. Then to top it all off, on Christmas morning, they shot into several bunches of specks that were 100-150yds high while my partners were working ducks at our blind flaring several bunches. I gave my partner "SPORT's" cell number and he sent him a text (it read "you should stay home if you don't know how to hunt")to which "SPORT" responded by firing 3 shots in the direction of our blind and promptly left the field shooting several more times toward our blind as they walked out of the field. Now, I feel like I am the one responsible for "SPORT" being able to secure a lease and that a little bit of respect and sportsmanship go a long way. This farmer has recieved several complaints from other hunters on adjacent property owned by another farmer. This situation has caused some tension between me and the farmer which I have never had since I started hunting there in 1992. Please advise as to what I should do and what my next step should be as my attempts to be polite have not been taken seriously. Also, "SPORT" is a member of this site and out of respect I have not revealed his identity. PLEASE HELP.:confused:

jdm4x43732 12-29-2011 02:50 PM

SPORT needs an a$# whipping. He would have learned not to shoot at someone on purpose who is holding a gun also. These people can shoot back.

I'm not a great hunter or fisherman by no means, I have alot to learn but if someone is trying to help you out, don't be a ***** to them. It is more than likely for your own good. shame on yall for not meeting him at the truck..

biglaketiger 12-29-2011 02:50 PM

I'd have to refund Half of sports money and part ways with him, no sense in letting him ruin the relationship you have with the farmer or for neighboring leases. There is really nothing else you can do in my opinion.

Armand16 12-29-2011 02:50 PM

next year, lease his blind out to me. problem solved

until then not much you can do unless you want to kick him out and refund him the pro rated amount for the rest of the season

mallard matt 12-29-2011 02:57 PM

get his add kicked out of the lease after this year and let me lease it he sounds like a worthless sob who doesn't deserve to hunt in a area around other Hunters sorry to hear about your problems there's plenty of good apples in this world and plenty of rotten one.And what.com you do with a bad apple?through it out

Micah 12-29-2011 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by biglaketiger (Post 368824)
I'd have to refund Half of sports money and part ways with him, no sense in letting him ruin the relationship you have with the farmer or for neighboring leases. There is really nothing else you can do in my opinion.

This.

Hard to believe someone could be so childish!!!!

southern151 12-29-2011 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Armand16 (Post 368825)
next year, lease his blind out to me. problem solved

until then not much you can do unless you want to kick him out and refund him the pro rated amount for the rest of the season

Exactly what I would do. If he throws a fit, get LDWF or a law agency involved. If he has fired shots in your direction intentionally, that is all the more reason you need to have him removed. Sad to see someone, especially from here, be such a fool!

DUCKGOGETTER 12-29-2011 03:01 PM

First the so called sport is a sorry pos and needs to be let off that lease and part ways with him. And i'm sorry, but if he would've shot my way i think i would have stomped a mud hole in his arse.

huntin fool 12-29-2011 03:01 PM

It's ridiculous. I'm talking geese that would probably drop down with a few clucks, but instead he feels the need to sky blast them, short stopping them for working Cajun's blind. When my buddy said it was bad, I didn't think it was until I witnessed it. Out of the 7-9 flocks of geese, I seen them cripple 1 snow. Its unreal.

DUCKGOGETTER 12-29-2011 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh Boy (Post 368828)
This.

Hard to believe someone could be so childish!!!!


X2

DUCKGOGETTER 12-29-2011 03:03 PM

And also if he has to skybust then he obviously doesn't know how to hunt. This will make it's way to the gillnet for sure.

Lake Chuck Duck 12-29-2011 03:04 PM

Nothin you can do if he isnt leasing from you. I imagine the land owner can do what he wants to the guy if complaints are high. Perhaps Sport will see this thread and decide to quit being a douche.

We face the same problem with a certain well know ex-politician "Sport" that always calls birds within a mile of him. Even when we have working our blind he is steady whalin on that goose call. Makes me want to punch him right in the suck hole.

huntin fool 12-29-2011 03:04 PM

Let's try and keep this out in the open. So keep it clean.

DUCKGOGETTER 12-29-2011 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 368837)
let's try and keep this out in the open. So keep it clean.


i agree it's just frustrating to read something like this, and that a so called sportsman will act like this over a duck/goose.

cajunsorc 12-29-2011 03:08 PM

I am just so shocked at this guys behaivior. I worked hard to build a relationship with the farmer and have never had issues. I haven't seen this type of stuff before except when I used to hunt in Sabine 20 yrs ago. I just don't understand.

Lake Chuck Duck 12-29-2011 03:09 PM


Here is my rant from last season.

DUCKGOGETTER 12-29-2011 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cajunsorc (Post 368842)
i am just so shocked at this guys behaivior. I worked hard to build a relationship with the farmer and have never had issues. I haven't seen this type of stuff before except when i used to hunt in sabine 20 yrs ago. I just don't understand.


it takes all kinds to make the world go round

Lake Chuck Duck 12-29-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cajunsorc (Post 368842)
I am just so shocked at this guys behaivior. I worked hard to build a relationship with the farmer and have never had issues. I haven't seen this type of stuff before except when I used to hunt in Sabine 20 yrs ago. I just don't understand.

This guy must have grown up learning how to hunt in Laccassine Reserve lol

DUCKGOGETTER 12-29-2011 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lake Chuck Duck (Post 368846)
This guy must have grown up learning how to hunt in Laccassine Reserve lol


LOL!!!!!

RAGINJROB 12-29-2011 03:20 PM

Think you should probably just ignore him for rest of season. Don't fuel the fire by confronting him. Obviously he has taken it as insult.

Also, if you can see him firing shots in your direction.... the blinds are waaaay tooooo close. Seems like farmer has too many blinds leased out.

Just my 2 cents

cajunsorc 12-29-2011 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAGINJROB (Post 368850)
Think you should probably just ignore him for rest of season. Don't fuel the fire by confronting him. Obviously he has taken it as insult.

Also, if you can see him firing shots in your direction.... the blinds are waaaay tooooo close. Seems like farmer has too many blinds leased out.

Just my 2 cents


Blinds are about 3/4 of a mile apart. Not too close if people know how to hunt.

LPfishnTIM 12-29-2011 03:26 PM

sounds like behavior problems, you can't reason or change the man, give him a pro rated refund and press charges on him for aggravated assault. sounds harsh, but his malicious ways of throwing a fit are criminal and in some way need to be dealt with for society's safety.

cajunsorc 12-29-2011 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LPfishnTIM (Post 368853)
sounds like behavior problems, you can't reason or change the man, give him a pro rated refund and press charges on him for aggravated assault. sounds harsh, but his malicious ways of throwing a fit are criminal and in some way need to be dealt with for society's safety.

My lease partner that was in the blind when he pulled this nonsense is a Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Deputy. LOL

redaddiction 12-29-2011 03:32 PM

He sounds like a lost cause. But maybe give it one more shot and invite him to hunt with you in your blind and show him first hand how it is done. Then just maybe, he'll realize what is the right way to hunt.

I just don't understand some people. To me, the thrill of the hunt is always working the birds in closer and not the kill itself. He's missing out on the best part of duck and goose hunting.

Best of luck.

"W" 12-29-2011 03:43 PM

Biggest problem is Blinds are too close if your flaring ducks from blind to blind......


2nd...He is an idiot but if he paid the lease....He can shoot black birds all day for that matter




Were I hunt.... We have two blinds that are leased out on the farm........ when they shoot we can barley hear them and with a south or north wind...we never hear them at all....

Shawn Braquet 12-29-2011 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 368878)
ok was it you or the farmer that leased it out. If it was you have 1/2 of his money and a release form for him. Go pick up his decoys the afternoon before and meet him the next morning. Give him all his stuff and tell him not to come back or he will be charged with trespassing. Cased closed cause if you dont stop the BS right now you will also be looking for another spot

true dat

Raymond 12-29-2011 05:38 PM

Who is it?????
Long Spoon Regards

Asterisk-Rich 12-29-2011 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn Braquet (Post 368894)
true dat

And a good spot isn't easy to come by.

SaltyShaw 12-29-2011 05:52 PM

Punch him in his dumb *** mouth and send him packing, like everyone else said a good place is hard to come by dont let one ignorant fool ruin what you have worked hard for. On that note id be interested if you need some one lol

meaux fishing 12-29-2011 06:17 PM

kick him out and lease it to me for the rest of the season

cajunsorc 12-29-2011 06:33 PM

The farmer leased it directly to him on my recommendation and I recommended him after having several conversations with him. After talking with him, it was clear he knew the right way to hunt. So, now I know that he was full of &*%$ and that he just talks a good game but acts like an @$$. The location of the blinds is not the issue as with a wind from his direction he can't hear me and vice versa. And we have had birds flare from shots from 3+ miles away if the wind is from that direction. I don't mind birds flaring if he is making legitimate shots at birds but the shooting of everything that passes after I have talked to him politely considering I got him in the lease.

meaux fishing 12-29-2011 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cajunsorc (Post 368917)
The farmer leased it directly to him on my recommendation and I recommended him after having several conversations with him. After talking with him, it was clear he knew the right way to hunt. So, now I know that he was full of &*%$ and that he just talks a good game but acts like an @$$. The location of the blinds is not the issue as with a wind from his direction he can't hear me and vice versa. And we have had birds flare from shots from 3+ miles away if the wind is from that direction. I don't mind birds flaring if he is making legitimate shots at birds but the shooting of everything that passes after I have talked to him politely considering I got him in the lease.

I would just let the farmer know you were wrong about him and that you are very sorry for any problems he has caused. And you are no way connected to the guys behavior. Tell him that you had several conversations about it with the guy and cant think of anything else to do but dont want it to affect your relationship with him(the farmer).

meaux fishing 12-29-2011 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadly D (Post 368931)
Keep your cool and dont do what I would have done or would do

x2

huntin fool 12-29-2011 07:16 PM

He doesn't post much, so I doubt he sees. But it'd be nice if he read all of this. Maybe he'd get the hint.

duckman444 12-29-2011 07:22 PM

Part of me says owell to bad to sad u r SOL. He paid his dues he did not lease from u so he can hunt however he pleases. If he wants to paint hisself silver and sit in his boat flapping his arms and hollers quack all u can do is sit back and say who woulda thought it.

The other half of me that hunts The Wax says kick his *** or kick him out the club. Quit being nice no matter what people say being nice gets u nothing. Give him a pro rate and kick him like a case of crabs. He sounds like a idiot who came fresh off a WMA and has no ethics or manners. This is just my 2 cents.

huntin fool 12-29-2011 08:05 PM

Sorc, reading his post on here, he acts like its such a burden to hunt that blind. Also doesn't look like they been killing. Not near as good as yall for sure.

cajunsorc 12-29-2011 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 368962)
Sorc, reading his post on here, he acts like its such a burden to hunt that blind. Also doesn't look like they been killing. Not near as good as yall for sure.

He hasn't been doing as well as we have because we let the big bunches get in tight and shoot em at 15 yds which results in 4 to 8 birds out of each bunch. And 3 or 4 bunches and we are close to 20 birds a hunt which as you know our average per hunt is 17. He shoots at bunches at 50-60yds which results in maybe 1 bird out of each bunch therefore he is only killing 3 or 4 birds per hunt. The birds are there....they have been there all year......you know Nate and you know exactly what we have been killing. This guy is in the same area as me so if he's not killing something is wrong with what he is doing. He just doesn't understand. We are close to 400 birds this year in about 22 hunts. i dont think he has killed 50 this year. You would think he would figure it out. Especially with me holding his hand and walking him thru it.

cajunsorc 12-29-2011 08:14 PM

I haven't mentioned who it is but if he continues to do what he has been doing I will post his identity so everyone will know and won't fall into the same trap I did.

all star rod 12-29-2011 08:20 PM

If this idiot screwed me this bad, I would expose this dip c h it on who it is....he could screw over someone else on the site.

Raymond 12-29-2011 08:26 PM

Chalk it up as a lesson learned and let him know the last day of season that it is his last day. Make sure he gets all his $hit out while you are onsite so if he returns the law will handle it from there on out. Might want to interview more closely next time since it can't be too hard to figure out if someone is a sport fairly quickly.

Good Luck

I am looking for a blind 2012

geralddct 12-29-2011 08:29 PM

Raymond I hope you get his blind that would be nice.

nguidry 12-29-2011 09:24 PM

Go drill a hole in his blind. Any size will do. Keep him wet and miserable.

cmcnabb 12-29-2011 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cajunsorc (Post 368852)
Blinds are about 3/4 of a mile apart. Not too close if people know how to hunt.

Your exactly right. Give my old man a call, he has dealt with a few bad situations.

For the people who think 3/4 of a mile is too close, think about this. The guy knew where the blinds were before he leased it so if he thought it was too close, he should have never leased it. Secondly, I have hunted closer than that for specklebellies and had great success. I just measured it out, .49 mile apart. I have hunted it and killed limits of specks and about 7 blues and snows, and my dad was across the road and killed over 40 geese! So like Doug said, if they have any sense at all it shouldn't be a problem

longcast 12-29-2011 09:56 PM

Man hunting is as bad as fishing. I guess it's better I just have one hobby. Man to shoot at a person over a game animal to me is crazy. I try and make it a purpose to try and not piss off the guys in the area I'm fishing.

cajunsorc 01-01-2012 10:46 AM

Sport didn't show on friday and we had a great hunt....able to work several big bunches of ducks within 15yds and decoyed a speck to 20 yds and 3 snows worked in to about 20-25yds. He was in the blind on Saturday but with the fog it was tough to see birds farther that 30yds and we had a decent hunt. He didn't show again this am and we had another decent hunt working several bunches in real tight and that is what I like about hunting!!

He has seen this thread and has contacted me wanting to talk about things. But after talking with him numerous times and him continuing to do the same things-I told him I had wasted enough of my time and breath over this and had nothing left to say.

Hopefully things will continue to improve but if not I will post his screen name for all to see. Thanks for all of the comments and advice.

I would like to add that the blind south of me that I mentioned in my original post was leased by cajunforeman and geralddct and they have been great in their actions and sportsmanship. The farmer is very happy with these two and I wanted to let everyone know that these two are STAND UP guys and just great representatives of sportsman. Thanks guys for keeping me hopeful that not all people are like "SPORT".

SaltyShaw 01-01-2012 11:08 AM

Thats good to hear man!

Hydro 01-01-2012 11:55 AM

I would do whatever it takes to stay in good graces with your land manager/farmer...

We lost a real good lease (10 sections, duck and deer, lower Terrebonne Parish) years ago due to poor sportsmanship/business practices with a couple of club members and have not hunted since...

By the time we found out what had gone down, it was too late to square things away with the lease owner... Ended up selling the camp, generator barge, mudboats, ect to the "new guys"...

cajunforeman 01-01-2012 08:35 PM

No problem Cajun..we've enjoyed our spot thus far this season and we hope to have many more great seasons out there. We enjoy hunting and the crew I run with realize it's not all about killing. If we get to be out there, watch a few sunrises and watch our dogs run we are usually pretty happy.

Duck Butter 01-02-2012 08:37 AM

Yep, chalk it up to a lesson learned. You can't control how people 'hunt'. It is perfectly legal to shoot at a duck 100 yards high or even 1/2 mile high, nothing you can do. Let it ride out this season and try and keep your good graces with the farmer (sounds like you have a good spot and good spots are very few and far between). Too many good friendships and good places have been lost over a silly duck.

jdm4x43732 01-02-2012 09:16 AM

Keep him occupied
 
I'd go and dump some fire ants in his blind on a afternoon before he is expected there the next morning. That should keep him busy enough for a while. :shaking::grinpimp: You could at least get one good hunt out of the deal without him sky busting birds, he'll be head down in the blind smashing ants:*****:


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