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scott craft 01-21-2012 07:05 PM

Edge boats
 
Lake Area had two at the boat show. Very nice looking boats. I'd better start saving my pennies!

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PaulMyers 01-21-2012 07:20 PM

I'll have to go to their shop when my T/A is over and check them out.

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scott craft 01-21-2012 07:27 PM

They had a 1550 and 1650. Both were very nice.

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PaulMyers 01-21-2012 07:27 PM

Any idea on price?

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weedeater 01-21-2012 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulMyers (Post 379993)
Any idea on price?

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they werent real sure on price of boat only but the boat, 40hp Tohatsu motor and trailer was $10500-$11000 and he said that the 15x50 was running 44mph:eek: stock with one guy and still alittle over 40mph with 2 guys....realy nice lookin little boat. I looked at the Excel about 2 yrs ago and will say this is by far more finnished looking and a neat lookin design.

PaulMyers 01-21-2012 07:43 PM

Somebody needs to find out what the 1650 will do with the same motor. I don't want to wait until March to find out.

I think I'd be more interested in the 1650. Size does matter! :o

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weedeater 01-21-2012 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulMyers (Post 380000)
Somebody needs to find out what the 1650 will do with the same motor. I don't want to wait until March to find out.

I think I'd be more interested in the 1650. Size does matter! :o

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In this case I am not sure how much size will mater:shaking:, if you look at the boat it is wide up front and narrow towards back plus its sorta got a pad under it so when its up running it looks like it would be more like running a skiny boat....hope that makes some since

PaulMyers 01-21-2012 07:54 PM

Sure does, thanks.

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scott craft 01-21-2012 07:55 PM

I want a 1556 with a mercury four stroke on the back.

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weedeater 01-21-2012 07:56 PM

its defiantly unique lookin

PaulMyers 01-21-2012 07:57 PM

If I get one I want it all to come from Lake Area Marine. Plus I like the Tohatsu.

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weedeater 01-21-2012 07:59 PM

it really surprised me when he told us the speeds they were getting with that motor and set-up

scott craft 01-21-2012 08:10 PM

They are very fast boats.

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1fastmerc 01-21-2012 08:21 PM

I just want my boat. :-(


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PaulMyers 01-21-2012 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 1fastmerc (Post 380014)
I just want my boat. :-(


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I thought you had a boat, its a motor that runs that you don't have. :confused: ;)

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1fastmerc 01-21-2012 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulMyers (Post 380017)
I thought you had a boat, its a motor that runs that you don't have. :confused: ;)

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Something like that


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weedeater 01-21-2012 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulMyers (Post 380017)
I thought you had a boat, its a motor that runs that you don't have. :confused: ;)

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nice one Paul, I told him what to do but he don't listen

PaulMyers 01-21-2012 09:00 PM

I'm usually hard of hearing like that also!

My dad's graduation ring to the top of my head used to fix that, :o but unfortunately he is no longer with us.

I sure miss him sometimes though. :(

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1fastmerc 01-21-2012 09:09 PM

Huh. :-)


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redspeck82 01-22-2012 07:40 AM

The 1650 with the 40hp runs 38mph!

CajunChristian 01-22-2012 07:53 AM

Yep, they are nice boats. Yep, they are fast boats. I have the first 1556 they built, high 45" deck and bench seat across the back. Boat weighs 352 pounds empty. I run a 4 cylinder, 4 stroke, EFI, Merc with a 60 ecu. With me, a 12 gallon fuel tank, large starting battery, with my fishing prop, boat runs 52 mph, add aother 200# man, boat runs 49 mph. Handles like a pad boat, turns on a dime. Give me a day or two notice if you want a test ride....

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...US1/good-1.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0326.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/100_3142.jpg

jaclyn.renea 01-22-2012 09:02 AM

We missed the boat show this year. Sorry to have missed them.

Keywest18 01-22-2012 09:51 AM

Any idea when they'll have a price on just the hulls?

weedeater 01-22-2012 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegr8cody (Post 380140)
Any idea when they'll have a price on just the hulls?

call Lake Area Marine

Hydro 01-22-2012 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott craft (Post 380012)
They are very fast boats.

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It will be interesting to watch these lightweight performance hulls with the "go-fast guys" on the rivers :D

CajunChristian 01-22-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydro (Post 380175)
It will be interesting to watch these lightweight performance hulls with the "go-fast guys" on the rivers :D

It's really not a "lightweight" boat. I have double walls and a factory floor in mine. The 50" wide boats have 3 longitudinal ribs and the 56" wide have 5. I insisted on 5 ribs for strength. There is a steep learning curve to driving one empty. It ain't yer standard flatbottom, nail the throttle and go. The boat is finicky about the trim. If you nail the throttle and hit the trim, it starts chine walking, gets worse and worse till you have to chop the throttle. Way to run one without chine walking is to feed the trim slowly. Bump the up button, let the boat catch up, bump the up again, let the boat catch up. Takes a few trips to learn it, then it's all good. Here is the perfect example of how NOT to do it, too uch trim too quickly:

CajunChristian 01-22-2012 02:47 PM

FIRST: I am not their saleman, I am not sponsored by Edge, I just worked with them designing a boat the way I wanted an aluminum boat to perform. By performance, I mean a boat that runs fast, carries a load well, turns great, and the quality of workmanship. I paid for my boat, no favors there. I make ZERO, NADA, NOTHING if anyone buys their boat. They have several established dealers in Arkansas. Black Ops Duck Calls sells the Edge line with Black Ops trademarked camo paint job. Go to their website, they have dealers that can and will give you a price. That said, personally, I would rather deal with a local dealer in case problems arise. I have never known Lake Area not trying to keep a customer happy.
Edge has a website: http://www.edgeboats.com/
According to their website,
550 Retail Price: 4755.00 including aluminum trailer + prep, taxes, and shipping

NOW, note that is for the Edge with a dropdeck, not the standard deck we are accustomed to. All of the testing we have done, the 556 runs within 1 mph of the 550 with a 2 and/or 3 cylinder 25hp motor.
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flounder_smacker 01-22-2012 04:14 PM

they are light because they are made of .090 aluminum. 3/32 of an inch. if you run around a bunch of stumps prob not a good idea.

weedeater 01-22-2012 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by flounder_smacker (Post 380239)
they are light because they are made of .090 aluminum. 3/32 of an inch. if you run around a bunch of stumps prob not a good idea.

Alweld is .100 gauge on most of their new boats and Alumaweld use to be .080 along with most other makers..... if its made and braced right .090 should be fine or atleast as good as others

scott craft 01-22-2012 05:04 PM

If you run around a bunch of stumps a mud motor type hull is probably better. Compared to Jon boats in the same class edge boats will probably do pretty good. Definitely better than 0.80 boats.

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LaAngler 04-24-2012 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CajunChristian (Post 380121)
Yep, they are nice boats. Yep, they are fast boats. I have the first 1556 they built, high 45" deck and bench seat across the back. Boat weighs 352 pounds empty. I run a 4 cylinder, 4 stroke, EFI, Merc with a 60 ecu. With me, a 12 gallon fuel tank, large starting battery, with my fishing prop, boat runs 52 mph, add aother 200# man, boat runs 49 mph. Handles like a pad boat, turns on a dime. Give me a day or two notice if you want a test ride....


how fast would the 556 run with a tldi 50 with a 15 or 16 inch prop?

Salyfz 04-24-2012 12:08 PM

Has anybody run a tall transom 550 w/ a short shaft 25 3 cylinder Yamaha on a CMC T & T unit? I've heard of the 40/50 Tohatsu's running this setup. Just wondering how this would work with the Yamaha before I order my 550 w/ a short transom.

Coppertone 04-24-2012 05:47 PM

any pics?

CajunChristian 08-25-2012 07:31 AM

Just a FYI, Edge has changed the bottom design of their boats:cry: The manufacturer and I do not agree, but, it's his business, not mine. I have set up 3 of the newer design boats and am not pleased with the changes. Oh well, the Edge is now the fastest boat on the water,,,EMPTY!
Danny

jdaigle33 08-25-2012 10:42 AM

http://www.h2osportz.com/new-boats/
This website has a few new ones for sale to give yall and idea of price.

sniper3726 08-25-2012 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CajunChristian (Post 482718)
Just a FYI, Edge has changed the bottom design of their boats:cry: The manufacturer and I do not agree, but, it's his business, not mine. I have set up 3 of the newer design boats and am not pleased with the changes. Oh well, the Edge is now the fastest boat on the water,,,EMPTY!
Danny

What was their reason?

Does LAM sell them .?

CajunChristian 08-25-2012 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdaigle33 (Post 482768)
http://www.h2osportz.com/new-boats/
This website has a few new ones for sale to give yall and idea of price.

Like I said:

Quote:

I have set up 3 of the newer design boats and am not pleased with the changes.
Soooo, buy at your own risk, I can no longer endorse their product. That is the beauty of paying for your own stuff, you are not indebted to anyone to lie about their products.
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PaulMyers 08-25-2012 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sniper3726 (Post 482811)
Does LAM sell them .?

Yes they do and they have a few in stock.

scott craft 08-25-2012 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CajunChristian (Post 482813)
Like I said:



Soooo, buy at your own risk, I can no longer endorse their product. That is the beauty of paying for your own stuff, you are not indebted to anyone to lie about their products.
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What would you recommend now?

CajunChristian 08-25-2012 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott craft (Post 482825)
What would you recommend now?


Do you want speed or longevity, you can't have both now.
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CajunChristian 08-25-2012 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sniper3726 (Post 482811)
What was their reason?

Does LAM sell them .?


I have spoken with the designer of these boats for the past 2 weeks, begging him to go back to the original design. He seems to think the new design is faster, and it is, if the boat is totally empty. I just don't fish or hunt with an empty boat and don't know of anyone that does. He basically turned this boat into a single purpose race boat. With the new design, I'm talking about if you put ONE battery up front, you lose 10 mph. We tested it with a TLDI, a hot 3 cylinder 25hp Yamaha, and a very, very hot 40hp Merc. Same results with all those motors and about 10 different propellers.
These boats were originally desined for the guys in Arkansas that hunt flooded timber. I guess they all run empty boats, I don't, and neither do most of the guys I help with their rigs????
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jchief 08-25-2012 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CajunChristian (Post 482839)
I have spoken with the designer of these boats for the past 2 weeks, begging him to go back to the original design. He seems to think the new design is faster, and it is, if the boat is totally empty. I just don't fish or hunt with an empty boat and don't know of anyone that does. He basically turned this boat into a single purpose race boat. With the new design, I'm talking about if you put ONE battery up front, you lose 10 mph. We tested it with a TLDI, a hot 3 cylinder 25hp Yamaha, and a very, very hot 40hp Merc. Same results with all those motors and about 10 different propellers.
These boats were originally desined for the guys in Arkansas that hunt flooded timber. I guess they all run empty boats, I don't, and neither do most of the guys I help with their rigs????
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He won't do 2 models? He should still have the old molds.

CajunChristian 08-25-2012 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchief (Post 482864)
He won't do 2 models? He should still have the old molds.


He altered his old jigs to build the new boats, so he doesn't have the old style jigs. And he refuses to build both????? I just hope he is humble enough to admit a mistake and return to the successful model when sales begin to plummet.
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CajunChristian 12-16-2012 07:52 AM

Well folks, it appears that the builder has seen thge light. He is now building straight bottom boats again. I have seen 3 of his latest and they are rockets.
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Salyfz 12-16-2012 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CajunChristian (Post 528255)
Well folks, it appears that the builder has seen thge light. He is now building straight bottom boats again. I have seen 3 of his latest and they are rockets.
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Danny, what kinda speeds are you seeing out of the 556/TLDI combo? Loaded and empty?

CajunChristian 12-16-2012 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salyfz (Post 528314)
Danny, what kinda speeds are you seeing out of the 556/TLDI combo? Loaded and empty?

Have not set oneof the "new" Edge's up with a TLDI, yet. The straight bottom Edge's were running mid to upper 40's with one battery and fuel tank. The one I set up would run 42 with 2 men, gear, and trolling motor with batteries.
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AARON5082 12-31-2012 12:38 AM

I have a 2012 model and so far i'm not too impressed. I bought the 656 in October and it has been at Lake Area waiting for the Edge rep for almost 3 weeks due to 4 cracked welds in the floor. I must say that Lake Area has been awesome in helping to resolve the issue but now there hands are tied until the rep shows up.

Gerald 12-31-2012 01:17 AM

I would think that if you took a bunch of good quality pictures of the cracks and sent the picture to them, the problem could be resolved in a day or two.

I did this when I worked and had problems with plant equipment.

AARON5082 01-01-2013 12:41 AM

From what I understand, the service manager has already sent the edge rep pics of the cracks. They said he would be here next week to look at it personally. Thanks for the advise though.

CajunChristian 01-01-2013 12:51 PM

I can assure you, it's not Lake Area that is failing. The folks at Edge seem to be getting worse instead of better at their Customer Service. I have personally watched Gerald and Kyle sit for hours trying to talk with the Edge rep. At that really sucks, from what I'm told, they are now back to building their hulls as originally designed. The originals were rockets.
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