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frogman 02-06-2012 07:27 PM

Express boats
 
thinking of buying used express bay boat . Any pros & cons

outcast 02-06-2012 07:57 PM

Dont buy the hd hull
Get the hyperlift hull

all star rod 02-06-2012 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outcast (Post 388906)
dont buy the hd hull
get the hyperlift hull

x 10000000000000000 x 1000000000000

"W" 02-06-2012 08:35 PM

Don't buy at all....get a fiberglass boat

jchief 02-06-2012 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outcast (Post 388906)
Dont buy the hd hull
Get the hyperlift hull


I agree. I had a 18' HD, it was rough.

fishaholic82 02-06-2012 08:50 PM

Go with a custom built hull. Will last twice as long. Xpress and any factory made aluminum boats are built with thin metal(1/8" or less)!

fishinpox 02-06-2012 08:55 PM

I had a hd20 xpress I renamed it hdwetarse/ sore back! If u plan on fishing open water prepare to suffer!

"W" 02-06-2012 09:00 PM

Yea xpress is pretty much junk....unless your just staying in a river with no wind....they scare fish in open water

wtretrievers 02-06-2012 09:01 PM

the wind will whip them around! You'll have to stay on the trolling motor!

bluewing 02-06-2012 09:23 PM

The welds will split over time.

1fastmerc 02-06-2012 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 388969)
Yea xpress is pretty much junk....unless your just staying in a river with no wind....they scare fish in open water

What about all the other people on here that has an xpress. You saying they all have junk?


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all star rod 02-06-2012 09:36 PM

I have x 22 with the hyper lift hull and it does well in a chop..it is .125" thick alum...sure it is not a hiney (but nothing is) but for the amount I fish a year (20 -30) times it is all I need plus I saved about 10k vs a glass boat. now if money did not matter or all you did was fish a lot I would get a glass boat.

mriguy 02-06-2012 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 389011)
I have x 22 with the hyper lift hull and it does well in a chop..it is .125" thick alum...sure it is not a hiney (but nothing is) but for the amount I fish a year (20 -30) times it is all I need plus I saved about 10k vs a glass boat. now if money did not matter or all you did was fish a lot I would get a glass boat.

Hate to say it, but I have to agree with ASR. I have a H20CC. Hyperlift hull rides WAY better than a HD.

all star rod 02-06-2012 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mriguy (Post 389014)
Hate to say it, but I have to agree with ASR. I have a H20CC. Hyperlift hull rides WAY better than a HD.

going sell mine tomorrow since w said they were junk....i had an hd, good boat for strictly marsh fishing.

fishaholic82 02-06-2012 09:51 PM

If you got the money I would check out Sportsman Fab in Morgan City. Mine is a 21x6 bay boat and I've been rough on it. It handles rough water well and last summer I had it 30 miles offshore. It floats in 11" of water and has no problem getting on step in 16" of water. It isn't as quiet and doesn't ride quite as well as a fiberglass boat but it will outlast any fiberglass hull, even a Haynie. Not hating on Haynies in fact if I were to buy a glass boat it'd be a Haynie its just hard for me to get away from the durability of an aluminum boat.

all star rod 02-06-2012 10:25 PM

to me, if the price was pretty much the same for a glass vs alum boat...glass all the way....as I mentioned for the amount I fish a year I am very happy with my x22b xpress...

weedeater 02-06-2012 10:31 PM

I am the proud owner of an junky X19 Xpress bass boat, I have fished in fiberglass boats, aluminium boats and even wood boats covered in glass and they all fish about the same..... no boat catches more fish then the other, it all comes down to how good of a fisherman you are.

"W" 02-06-2012 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 389040)
I am the proud owner of an junky X19 Xpress bass boat, I have fished in fiberglass boats, aluminium boats and even wood boats covered in glass and they all fish about the same..... no boat catches more fish then the other, it all comes down to how good of a fisherman you are.


Believe that in saltwater...... If you fish aluminum in rivers and lakes with no chop....great...I use my 15ft all the time in marsh...

When your in open water with chop aluminum boat (DON'T MATTER WHAT KIND) will scare fish and kill a bite....

I have seen it 10000000000000000000000000000000000 xs

"W" 02-06-2012 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outcast (Post 388906)
Dont buy the hd hull
Get the hyperlift hull

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchief (Post 388950)
I agree. I had a 18' HD, it was rough.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishaholic82 (Post 388956)
Go with a custom built hull. Will last twice as long. Xpress and any factory made aluminum boats are built with thin metal(1/8" or less)!

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 388962)
I had a hd20 xpress I renamed it hdwetarse/ sore back! If u plan on fishing open water prepare to suffer!

Quote:

Originally Posted by wtretrievers (Post 388972)
the wind will whip them around! You'll have to stay on the trolling motor!

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluewing (Post 389000)
The welds will split over time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1fastmerc (Post 389007)
What about all the other people on here that has an xpress. You saying they all have junk?


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weedeater 02-06-2012 11:12 PM

huge difference in HD hull and Hyperlift hull

H2OFwlKlr 02-06-2012 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 389081)
huge difference in HD hull and Hyperlift hull


Don't feed "The Troll"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shaking:

Salty 02-07-2012 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 388941)
Don't buy at all....get a wooden boat like me

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Captain Mike P. 02-14-2012 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frogman (Post 388894)
thinking of buying used express bay boat . Any pros & cons

Go check out my post from last year. Bought the h22B and have been impressed with it. Aluminum will last a life time in salt water, unless you plan on leaving it there. If your trailer, just rinse after use with fresh water.

simplepeddler 02-14-2012 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 389072)
Believe that in saltwater...... If you fish aluminum in rivers and lakes with no chop....great...I use my 15ft all the time in marsh...

When your in open water with chop aluminum boat (DON'T MATTER WHAT KIND) will scare fish and kill a bite....

I have seen it 10000000000000000000000000000000000 xs

You painting with a wide brush there "W"...........
Custom aluminum hulls like a Gravois, Gaudet's , Lifetyme, and others are not your average aluminum stamped out boat.

In fact more often than not, people do not see mine as alloy..........

But hey what do I know, I have a walk through windshield for goodness sake.

bjhooper82 02-14-2012 06:03 PM

If you want an Xpress go to H&M in crowley. His prices are the lowest in the state.

jchief 02-14-2012 06:05 PM

They are low, but be warned. They are not real customer friendly.

I bought 2 boats from him.

bjhooper82 02-14-2012 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchief (Post 392697)
They are low, but be warned. They are not real customer friendly.

I bought 2 boats from him.


Yeah, ive herd a few bad things about the owner also, but if you just want to save a few bucks and dont care, go see Tommy at H&M.

jdm4x43732 02-14-2012 06:19 PM

He has helped me out but he is the only one that can help you over there. Heard people dog them before but all I can say is they move a huge volume of boats at H&M.

all star rod 02-14-2012 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjhooper82 (Post 392698)
Yeah, ive herd a few bad things about the owner also, but if you just want to save a few bucks and dont care, go see Tommy at H&M.

I got my 1st xpress from tommy and he was a stand up guy. when I went from my hd to my x22 he did not do trade ins so I went to boats unlimted in br.

all star rod 02-14-2012 06:29 PM

btw, selling my xpress since spongebob "w" said they were junk....

mriguy 02-14-2012 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 392702)
btw, selling my xpress since spongebob "w" said they were junk....

X2, wish I would have known

weedeater 02-14-2012 09:34 PM

there is an Xpress dealer in Beaumont, TX that seems legit. I know a guy at work that bought from H&M at the boat show last yr but after I took him to Beaumont he wished he would have dealt with them insted.

all star rod 02-15-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 392806)
there is an Xpress dealer in Beaumont, TX that seems legit. I know a guy at work that bought from H&M at the boat show last yr but after I took him to Beaumont he wished he would have dealt with them insted.

Buddy of mine in SPET bought a duck hunting boat (xpress with pro-drive) from them and he was very happy. Matter of fact, they were cheaper than Tommy @ H&M from what he told me.

Hydro 02-15-2012 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 389072)
Believe that in saltwater...... If you fish aluminum in rivers and lakes with no chop....great...I use my 15ft all the time in marsh...

When your in open water with chop aluminum boat (DON'T MATTER WHAT KIND) will scare fish and kill a bite....

I have seen it 10000000000000000000000000000000000 xs



"W"ow, I guess I never "W"ill fish in salt "W"ater on a "W"indy day ever again...

Must have been "W"astin' my time all these years cuz "W" says so !!! :shaking:

Give me a break...

all star rod 02-15-2012 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydro (Post 393334)
"W"ow, I guess I never "W"ill fish in salt "W"ater on a "W"indy day ever again...

Must have been "W"astin' my time all these years cuz "W" says so !!! :shaking:

Give me a break...

spongebob "W" knows....once he said that I sold my boat X22 bay....heard all the xpress dealers in the the SW LA and SE TX area quit selling them due to spongebobs comment.

Hydro 02-15-2012 08:45 PM

Hanko's and Scullys will be the next to fall ...

Nutin' but glass-n-wood botes on dem salts' wattas :rotfl:

PUREBAY2200 02-15-2012 08:46 PM

Re
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydro (Post 393334)
"W"ow, I guess I never "W"ill fish in salt "W"ater on a "W"indy day ever again...

Must have been "W"astin' my time all these years cuz "W" says so !!! :shaking:

Give me a break...


Baahaahaahaahaa!!!!!!

PUREBAY2200 02-15-2012 08:48 PM

Re
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydro (Post 393341)
Hanko's and Scullys will be the next to fall ...

Nutin' but glass-n-wood botes on dem salts' wattas :rotfl:

W is gonna saw off a part of his transom and beat u down with it!!!

Hydro 02-15-2012 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PUREBAY2200 (Post 393344)
W is gonna saw off a part of his transom and beat u down with it!!!


"W"hatever... Just finally got a bellyfull ...

"W" 02-15-2012 08:54 PM

So yall think aluminum boats catches the same as fiberglass on a windy day or even light chop???? Not talking about a crew boat..bay boat or flat


Popped a new bag of popcorn

PUREBAY2200 02-15-2012 08:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydro (Post 393346)
"W"hatever... Just finally got a bellyfull ...

Haha..... W is more full of ch!t then a port-a-potty on canal st during MARDI GRAS!!

SULPHITE 02-15-2012 08:58 PM

Keep this thread about express boats

"W" 02-15-2012 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SULPHITE (Post 393355)
Keep this thread about express boats

Ok....they catch 75% less fish in saltwater
Buy a Haynie

PUREBAY2200 02-15-2012 09:06 PM

Yea, an aluminum boat with a true bart boat hull with not scare off fish..... I have not seen any fish swim away when I fish with my bro in law.
We catch bass, trout , reds n the shallows & have run out into Breton sound.
No issues with not catching fish in the wind:)

PUREBAY2200 02-15-2012 09:07 PM

Bay boat hull.... Damn auto text.

Hydro 02-15-2012 09:09 PM

Original poster asked if Express boats were good or bad... Most people answered wet, rough, welds crack, good, bad, ugly, ect... These are things I would want to know if in the market...

Somehow, you took this as an opportunity to slam, drag, bash and humiliate any and all aluminum boat owners on the site in normal "W" fashion...

No matter what the topic; rods, nets, reels, bildge pumps, light bulbs or hemorrhoid cream, you go on the same offensive and attempt to bash everyone else's stuff...

ckinchen 02-15-2012 09:18 PM

This is not a compare fiberglass to aluminum thread, stay on topic or infractions will be handed out. W unless you have owned or ridden in an xpress there is no need to post on this thread.

Now back to the topic. I owned an hd 20 a few years ago, great boat in rivers and the marsh, it killed me with any chop. Pros are it will last a lifetime, run shallow and us cost effective. Cons to me are that it is loud with any chop and not a great boat in open water with 10 knots or more facing you. Good luck with your decision.

"W" 02-15-2012 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckinchen (Post 393387)
This is not a compare fiberglass to aluminum thread, stay on topic or infractions will be handed out. W unless you have owned or ridden in an xpress there is no need to post on this thread.

Now back to the topic. I owned an hd 20 a few years ago, great boat in rivers and the marsh, it killed me with any chop. Pros are it will last a lifetime, run shallow and us cost effective. Cons to me are that it is loud with any chop and not a great boat in open water with 10 knots or more facing you. Good luck with your decision.

Let's see......yes...buddy of mine L T had one...fished with him a few times

Loud
Wet
Beats the hell out of you in chop
Real noisy when fishing out of it
It spliton him a few times

He sold it and bought a Champion

all star rod 02-15-2012 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckinchen (Post 393387)
This is not a compare fiberglass to aluminum thread, stay on topic or infractions will be handed out. W unless you have owned or ridden in an xpress there is no need to post on this thread.

Now back to the topic. I owned an hd 20 a few years ago, great boat in rivers and the marsh, it killed me with any chop. Pros are it will last a lifetime, run shallow and us cost effective. Cons to me are that it is loud with any chop and not a great boat in open water with 10 knots or more facing you. Good luck with your decision.

I had the hd also and was not good for a chop that is why i got rid of it and got the one with the hyperlift hull....big difference between the two. Kind of like comparing a fiberglass with a v hull to a flat bottom hull like a carolina skiff....

Keith_Stone 02-15-2012 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckinchen (Post 393387)
This is not a compare fiberglass to aluminum thread, stay on topic or infractions will be handed out. W unless you have owned or ridden in an xpress there is no need to post on this thread.

Now back to the topic. I owned an hd 20 a few years ago, great boat in rivers and the marsh, it killed me with any chop. Pros are it will last a lifetime, run shallow and us cost effective. Cons to me are that it is loud with any chop and not a great boat in open water with 10 knots or more facing you. Good luck with your decision.

That just about sums it up. I had a xpress CC, it was all of the above. Originally bought it because of overall cost and fished alot of shallow marshes where open water and wind were not a very big factor. However if you are ever caught out in open water and the wind and chop pick up, it is a very rough and wet ride..I alos got mine from H & M Marine in Crowley. They had good prices and I never had any trouble when I brought it in for maintnenace.

So in the end it is probably what is most important you, they are a good product for an aluminum boat, but jst like any other boat aluminum or glass, they will all have their own benefits and their own downfalls...


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