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Asterisk-Rich 02-07-2012 04:52 PM

Core or Chronarch
 
Pros and Cons?

fishinpox 02-07-2012 05:04 PM

My core is great but I've had to have it rebuilt 3-4 times because I can't keep it out of tge water but very light and casts a mile, I can empty a spool on my 50mg with a cast, my chronarch 100d7 is also great very smooth and I've never had a problem with it but it is heavier than the core . If u get a chronarch order last years model tge 100d7 not tge new one , it is just a e7 curado painted white n black!

"W" 02-07-2012 05:20 PM

Core but have to take care of it.....light and hell of a reel

all star rod 02-07-2012 06:44 PM

chronarch 100d7.....
x2 in regards to what pox said.

boatdriver 02-07-2012 07:11 PM

Neither. Both new models are junk. Core corrodes in a year. New chronarch is a peice of s h i t. Had a handle fall off in 3 days. Core is severely overpriced, severely. Buy a citca. Cheap, then bring it to a shop, replace bearings; boom- a curado. But, of you can, but a chronarch 100d7, or 5. You can turn a 5 into a 7.

Armand16 02-07-2012 07:13 PM

get a lews tourny. you can get em on ebay NEW 119.00 free shipping.. reg 149.00

"W" 02-07-2012 07:18 PM

BD...what is the weight on the Citca?


My core 50mg are all over 2 years old and I had trouble with one ....and changed barring in all of them, my rod and reel is feather light... Taking a guess less than 2lbs

But I don't think you can get a lighter reel

Armand16 02-07-2012 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 389363)
chronarch 100d7.....
x2 in regards to what pox said.


not goin prem anymore?

"W" 02-07-2012 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armand16 (Post 389378)
not goin prem anymore?

We ran him out sports bar

Armand16 02-07-2012 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 389379)
We ran him out sports bar


what a shame that dude was kinda funny

boatdriver 02-07-2012 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armand16 (Post 389374)
get a lews tourny. you can get em on ebay NEW 119.00 free shipping.. reg 149.00

One of our guides has a Lew's reel. Loves it. Doesn't hold up to everyday use. But, the other major problem, no one around here works on them or has parts. Less than 9 months old and you can't turn the handle cause of corrosion.

boatdriver 02-07-2012 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 389376)
BD...what is the weight on the Citca?


My core 50mg are all over 2 years old and I had trouble with one ....and changed barring in all of them, my rod and reel is feather light... Taking a guess less than 2lbs

But I don't think you can get a lighter reel

I agree 110%. the core is the lightest on the market. One of mine was corroding near spring one the opposite side of the handle. It is actually making a hole. They need new bearings every year, in my opinion.

boatdriver 02-07-2012 07:34 PM

And I'm not sure of the weight of the citica. It's heavier than the core and Chronarch, but more comparable to a curado.

fishinpox 02-07-2012 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 389376)
BD...what is the weight on the Citca?


My core 50mg are all over 2 years old and I had trouble with one ....and changed barring in all of them, my rod and reel is feather light... Taking a guess less than 2lbs

But I don't think you can get a lighter reel

Dude 2 lbs for a rod n reel is a freakin brick! Try under 1 pound! Even 1/2 a pound!

"W" 02-07-2012 07:37 PM

Justed weighted my core with no string...5.51 oz... With a waterloo hp light 3.7oz

My whole rig is less than one pound...that makes a big difference when your throwing all day

all star rod 02-07-2012 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armand16 (Post 389378)
not goin prem anymore?

no...i just need to re up. ...btw, do not get the new chronarch....get the one per what pox said. I have it great reel

"W" 02-07-2012 07:39 PM

Citica is 7.5 oz

"W" 02-07-2012 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 389387)
Dude 2 lbs for a rod n reel is a freakin brick! Try under 1 pound! Even 1/2 a pound!

Took a guess....all my rod n reels are about 9.5 to 10oz

boatdriver 02-07-2012 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 389388)
Justed weighted my core with no string...5.51 oz... With a waterloo hp light 3.7oz

My whole rig is less than one pound...that makes a big difference when your throwing all day

That is super lite.

all star rod 02-07-2012 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 389388)
Justed weighted my core with no string...5.51 oz... With a waterloo hp light 3.7oz

My whole rig is less than one pound...that makes a big difference when your throwing all day

Weight...lol ....maybe you need to work out or limit quicker...

"W" 02-07-2012 07:42 PM

Chronarc is one of the heaviest @ 7.6

"W" 02-07-2012 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boatdriver (Post 389393)
That is super lite.

Have a H&H 6'6 med light that is less than 4oz also...

all star rod 02-07-2012 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 389395)
Chronarc is one of the heaviest @ 7.6

the last model of the chronarch should have the same weight of the curado.....this is per the new body style that it has now.

boatdriver 02-07-2012 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 389397)
Have a H&H 6'6 med light that is less than 4oz also...

I had one of those same rods. It broke on the very first fish I caught. Out the wrapper. I flipped a 1.5 pound trout and the thing blew up in 3 prices. Junk. There's no backbone to it.

huntin fool 02-07-2012 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boatdriver (Post 389401)
I had one of those same rods. It broke on the very first fish I caught. Out the wrapper. I flipped a 1.5 pound trout and the thing blew up in 3 prices. Junk. There's no backbone to it.


Had a buddy break an H & H 3rd cast the other day.. Flipped a 3 lbs. bass in and like you said it exploded. I was laughing my arse off though.

inchspinner 02-07-2012 08:32 PM

waterloo hp light with 100d7=gold and cumara with core=platinum.....nuff said..

Asterisk-Rich 02-07-2012 09:15 PM

Thanks for all the input guys, I need one more setup to add to my arsenal and i will be good to go. I get my calcutta back tomorrow from the tackleshop in New Orleans. Loooking forward to trying out those abec7 bearings! I'm gonna be on the lookout for one of those Chronarchs. Im rough on equipment and i dont think i would be able to give the core the TLC it deserves.

SULPHITE 02-07-2012 09:20 PM

Dang you gonna catch some specks in NYC?? Or are ya back in gods country?

Asterisk-Rich 02-07-2012 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SULPHITE (Post 389429)
Dang you gonna catch some specks in NYC?? Or are ya back in gods country?

back in the boot biattch....



and i will be here until i have one of those "Hawg Walley's" hanging on my wall!

SULPHITE 02-07-2012 09:29 PM

Good deal bro! Good luck on big slimey

Salty 02-07-2012 09:40 PM

[quote="W"
My core 50mg are all over 2 years old and I had trouble with one ....and changed barring in all of them[/QUOTE]



[QUOTE="W"Core but have to take care of it.....light and hell of a reel[/quote]

Make up your mind.

"W" 02-07-2012 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salty (Post 389439)
Make up your mind.

??????????explain

Salty 02-07-2012 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boatdriver (Post 389373)
Neither. Both new models are junk. Core corrodes in a year. New chronarch is a peice of s h i t. Had a handle fall off in 3 days. Core is severely overpriced, severely. Buy a citca. Cheap, then bring it to a shop, replace bearings; boom- a curado. But, of you can, but a chronarch 100d7, or 5. You can turn a 5 into a 7.

I told W that before he ever bought one.

"W" 02-07-2012 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salty (Post 389442)
I told W that before he ever bought one.

I don't pay full price...I pay what you pay for a Curado..I get a core

Salty 02-07-2012 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 389449)
I don't pay full price...I pay what you pay for a Curado..I get a core


Unless you get 'em free....you paid too much.

"W" 02-07-2012 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salty (Post 389454)
Unless you get 'em free....you paid too much.

Got 2 of 6 free

all star rod 02-07-2012 10:19 PM

who cares...

Montauk17 02-07-2012 10:20 PM

H20 Mettle

"W" 02-07-2012 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 389466)
who cares...

U must..made u ask????? O"w"nd

Salty 02-07-2012 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 389464)
Got 2 of 6 free

Well, at least you only got screwed on 2/3 of 'em.

"W" 02-07-2012 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salty (Post 389473)
Well, at least you only got screwed on 2/3 of 'em.

I love my cores...light and I can throw them farther than I could my curado....just put ceramic bearings in 4 of them...the one I had corrode I sent back to Shimano and they sent letter back asking all kind of cap...sent them answers...sent another letter said it would cost 24.85 for shipping ...sent money and they sent me a new reel


Best reels I ever used so far

all star rod 02-07-2012 10:34 PM

got 8....6.5 were free.

Salty 02-07-2012 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 389479)
got 8....6.5 were free.

I ain't gonna try to figger out that %. Pretty good, tho.

fishinpox 02-07-2012 10:50 PM

I'm pretty rough on my gear so here is my thought ...and I have owned all 3 of these reels
Curado E7 = best bang for your buck, very durable, very smooth, cast far ( not as far as the core 50mg)I very rarely clean them and I've never had a problem with them. I still have the first E7 I bought when bass pro received the 1st shipment of them when they changed em ( maybe 5 yrs ago?)

Chronarch d7- very very smooth casting and on the retrieve, a little heavier than the curado but it feels more solid build than the curado with less play in the handle,and like it has more cranking power slightly larger than the curado and core50 . I've waded with this reel I've surf fished with this reel ( and the curado) and have submerged it in saltwater. never had to replace any parts but i have had it cleaned/serviced .

Core 50mg - Ive had it rebuilt a few times, very light, casts very far but not as smooth as Chronarch but about the same as a curado E7. Same if not more "play" in the handle as curado. Reel was ok until I waded with it and dunked it. I rinse it but like w said you really need to baby it . If I only freshwater fished I'd own all cores but I rarely fish freshwater so I'd buy a curado E7 or Chronarch d7 b4 I'd buy another core 50 mg

mikedatiger 02-07-2012 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 389486)
I'm pretty rough on my gear so here is my thought ...and I have owned all 3 of these reels
Curado E7 = best bang for your buck, very durable, very smooth, cast far ( not as far as the core 50mg)I very rarely clean them and I've never had a problem with them. I still have the first E7 I bought when bass pro received the 1st shipment of them when they changed em ( maybe 5 yrs ago?)

Chronarch d7- very very smooth casting and on the retrieve, a little heavier than the curado but it feels more solid build than the curado with less play in the handle,and like it has more cranking power slightly larger than the curado and core50 . I've waded with this reel I've surf fished with this reel ( and the curado) and have submerged it in saltwater. never had to replace any parts but i have had it cleaned/serviced .

Core 50mg - Ive had it rebuilt a few times, very light, casts very far but not as smooth as Chronarch but about the same as a curado E7. Same if not more "play" in the handle as curado. Reel was ok until I waded with it and dunked it. I rinse it but like w said you really need to baby it . If I only freshwater fished I'd own all cores but I rarely fish freshwater so I'd buy a curado E7 or Chronarch d7 b4 I'd buy another core 50 mg

Great review. I would love to put a Core on my Laguna but I constantly hear mixed reviews, and IMO for a reel at that price there should be no doubt it will hold up. The Curado E7 is comparable to an AK - it's not sexy or the lightest but you can beat the crud out of it and know it's still gonna work.

I won a new Citica a few months ago and have been pleased with it thus far, for what it is. It won't outcast my tuned Curados but it's extremely smooth, at least for now...

bayouchub 02-07-2012 11:08 PM

curado 50e

fishinpox 02-07-2012 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayouchub (Post 389492)
curado 50e

I remember when they first came out shimano over packed em with grease and supposedly had a recall on them. I noticed when I'd loosen the spool knob all the ay , take off all the breaks and just try to spin the handle it would only make a few turns compared to any other shimano would spin for a while. Have u noticed this? Or see any difference than a 200e7's casting ability

bayouchub 02-07-2012 11:46 PM

Thats true about the spool spin out of the box. If you clean the spool shaft it helps a lot. My 50e's cast and perform as good as my cores. Only differences is core has mg frame, two bearings in handles, aluminum drive gear, and a 7:1 ratio. Where the 50e has al frame, brass gears, no bearings in knobs, and a 6.4 ratio. 50e cast much better than 200e7, esp with lighter baits.

fishinpox 02-08-2012 12:19 AM

Might have to get one

Salty 02-08-2012 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 389494)
I remember when they first came out shimano over packed em with grease and supposedly had a recall on them. I noticed when I'd loosen the spool knob all the ay , take off all the breaks and just try to spin the handle it would only make a few turns compared to any other shimano would spin for a while. Have u noticed this? Or see any difference than a 200e7's casting ability

Ask bayouchub how free the spool is on a Curado BSF that I have. I ain't never seen a reel free spool like that...and that's with no line. But, in reality....it really doesn't mean a whole lot as far as the casting distance of the reel.


BTW, that was a good review of those reels and I agree with all of it.


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