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ScubaLatt 04-07-2012 11:01 AM

need Suzuki help
 
Who works on small (25hp) Suzuki motors in the moss bluff area? I recall some discussion a while back about a guy who specializes in them.

Problem I am having: Electric start wont work. Slight short click every once in a while when I turn key. Battery 100% good. had it tested at o'reileys this am.

Thing is that it started 3 weeks ago before I took it off boat to have it repainted. I am dumbfounded and frustrated.

any suggestions?

cmcnabb 04-07-2012 11:02 AM

Check solenoids

ScubaLatt 04-07-2012 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmcnabb (Post 416312)
Check solenoids

where?

cmcnabb 04-07-2012 11:09 AM

There should be a wire coming from the starter to the solenoid. The solenoid has 2 terminals. More than likely, it's where your clicking is coming from

cmcnabb 04-07-2012 11:13 AM

1 Attachment(s)
It should look something like this. You can get a new one at oriellys, any 12 v starter solenoid should work

ScubaLatt 04-07-2012 11:13 AM

going look.

cmcnabb 04-07-2012 11:15 AM

Arc it with a screwdriver by placing it between the two terminals connecting them. If it turns over then, just replace the solenoid and you should be good

ScubaLatt 04-07-2012 11:18 AM

found it. what now? jiggled it and tried to cross the connectors witha screwdriver. nothing. did get more clicking when turned key after i messed with it.

Ray 04-07-2012 11:18 AM

Tap on the starter with a small hammer while trying to start.
The solenoid may be stuck. Or the bendix is not engaging.
If that don't work, then remove the wires from the starter and
solenoid and clean them real good. Make them shine before
re-installing.

ScubaLatt 04-07-2012 11:19 AM

did hammer trick. nada.

Ray 04-07-2012 11:22 AM

Pull the starter and get it checked. If shorting out the solenoid don't work, it may be the starter.
Shorting should put 12 volts straight to the starter.
Does the starter get hot when trying to start it?
If it gets hot, it may be froze up.
If it stays cold, it may have open windings.

ScubaLatt 04-07-2012 11:24 AM

all connections are as clean as a whistle. had the starter serviced before duck season by Jake in Carlyss. he told me that the "fins" on the starter may have a few bad spots. but it worked 3 weeks ago!!!!!!:headknocker:

ScubaLatt 04-07-2012 11:24 AM

if lake area marine was open i'd go buy me a new 40 hp tohatso dfi!

ScubaLatt 04-07-2012 11:27 AM

starter is not getting hot.

Ray 04-07-2012 02:22 PM

That is not good. You can have them rebuilt.
Not sure if you can still get a new one for the old 3 cyl. Zuki.
You ruled out the solenoid when you bypassed it.
You checked out the battery wire? Try using jumper cables from the battery to the starter, bypassing the solenoid.

CajunChristian 04-08-2012 06:14 PM

Give me a call, I'll troubleshoot it tomorrow for you, no charge:D. Should take about 5-10 minutes:work:.
337-499-6801
Danny

davidkyle323 04-08-2012 06:55 PM

Check the ground wire on the battery and where it ties to engine block

scott craft 04-08-2012 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CajunChristian (Post 416838)
Give me a call, I'll troubleshoot it tomorrow for you, no charge:D. Should take about 5-10 minutes:work:.
337-499-6801
Danny

Definitely go this route. Danny is good and honest.

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Gerald 04-08-2012 09:56 PM

Just now read this.......let me know tomorrow if you are still trying to figure out the problem and I will come over to take a look.

There has been several good suggestions of things to check..... one of them should be your problem, and not hard to fix at your house.

CajunChristian 04-09-2012 06:17 AM

Thank You Scott. I don't think he can much cheaper than free:eek:
D

PaulMyers 04-09-2012 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CajunChristian (Post 417056)
Thank You Scott. I don't think he can much cheaper than free:eek:
D

Danny, I need 2 deals like that. 1 on a 25 and 1 on a bigger motor.

scott craft 04-09-2012 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CajunChristian (Post 417056)
Thank You Scott. I don't think he can much cheaper than free:eek:
D

For sure! I know first hand how frustrating it can be trying to fix an outboard when you have limited knowledge.

CajunChristian 04-09-2012 04:34 PM

It was exactly what I thought it was, bad battery cables. Took volt meter and checked battery, 12.5 volts, then load tested battery..12.5 volts, then at solenoid 12,5 volts, then hold volt meter on positive side at solenoid and turn key to start, voltage drops to 0. Battery cables do break down with all the motion of steering an outboard. Built a new set of cables with 6 gauge multistrand, back in business. Easy way to check it if you don't have a good volt meter. Take a set of jumper cables and connect positive to battery, connect other end of jumper cable to hot side of solenoid, then engage solenoid with key switch. If it spins over, the positive cable is broken down. Do the same with the ground side of the jumper cables. You are basically bypassing the battery cables on the motor using jumper cables.
D

Ray 04-09-2012 05:02 PM

I said that farther up. To use jumper cables to check the battery wires.
Last thing you wanna do is pull a good starter.

CajunChristian 04-09-2012 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray (Post 417322)
I said that farther up. To use jumper cables to check the battery wires.
Last thing you wanna do is pull a good starter.


Sorry, I didn't meant to steal your thunder:D Yep, I don't like removing good parts:eek:
D

Ray 04-09-2012 05:49 PM

You didn't steal anything. I suggested it as an easy way to see if it was anything other than what was checked already.
Them battery cables corrode under the connectors. Corrosion is the worst thing for electrical and electronics.
It usually makes for bad connections. You can't see it, but it gets between connectors and it can screw with your mind trying to find an unseen prollem.

thibodeauxba 04-17-2012 02:28 PM

If you find that hooking your starter up directly to the battery doesn't work (bypassing solenoid), then Eric Hardesty can rebuild your starter at Iowa alternator and Starter for pretty cheap. He does very good work. 337-582-3450

ScubaLatt 04-17-2012 08:49 PM

Many thanks to Danny! He diagnosed and fixed my problem within 2 hours. Most of that time was me running around moss bluff and finally lake charles to get 6 ga wire and battery terminals. I sure do appreciate Danny and would recommend him to anyone who needs motor work. I will definately call him again and have stored his number in my cell phone!

Thanks, Danny!

Keywest18 04-17-2012 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray (Post 417371)
Them battery cables corrode under the connectors. Corrosion is the worst thing for electrical and electronics.
It usually makes for bad connections. You can't see it, but it gets between connectors and it can screw with your mind trying to find an unseen prollem.

reminds me of working at advanced audio and having to deal with those glass cylinder fuses. I hated them things, theyd always go out in the ends where you cant see them.....


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