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HHenry1 09-13-2012 03:44 PM

Hunting Labs
 
Hey Fellas, does anyone know of anybody that would have some registered Lab pups for sale? I'd like a white one, but any color would do right about now. Thanks!

1234567 09-13-2012 04:08 PM

why do you want a white hunting dog?

malliegator 09-13-2012 04:24 PM

Once you go black....

HHenry1 09-13-2012 04:51 PM

Had a Brown and a Black, Want to try White now for a change. Gotta try all the flavors!

fullrutt 09-13-2012 05:28 PM

Red is the way to go...


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HHenry1 09-13-2012 05:40 PM

Never Seen a red lab before big daddy. I have seen an Irish Setter though. I would shell out the money for one of those if I could find one near here.

Loneshark 09-13-2012 05:53 PM

I never knew they had red labs either but they do. Also have silver.

cmcnabb 09-13-2012 05:56 PM

A white hunting dog is just one more thing to hide

mallardhead 09-13-2012 08:15 PM

Robert autemaunt has puppies and started labs in lake arthur al his puppies parents are hrch titled

fullrutt 09-13-2012 08:38 PM

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I never knew they had red labs either but they do. Also have silver.

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Top Dawg 09-13-2012 09:07 PM

No such thing as a silver lab. Black, yellow, and chocolate.

I make oil 09-13-2012 09:11 PM

John Wilson with Wax Lake Retreivers has some good puppies right now. (985) 397-0933

jldsc 09-13-2012 09:17 PM

i had to look it up myself...says theres red, charcoal and silver..

Spunt Drag 09-13-2012 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jldsc (Post 492435)
i had to look it up myself...says theres red, charcoal and silver..

Only colors registered wit your major Kennel Clubs are Black, Yellow, and chocolate. And Robert Authement is reputable and a nice guy to deal with.

Top Dawg 09-13-2012 09:28 PM

What most people call a silver lab, and some people breed them, is actually a mix breed. Weimaraner/lab.

jldsc 09-13-2012 09:30 PM

alright...so they can make the breed color but the kennel clubs dont accept those colors then...I had the same issue with getting AKC to accept some of the colors on my mini schnauzers...

jldsc 09-13-2012 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 492448)
What most people call a silver lab, and some people breed them, is actually a mix breed. Weimaraner/lab.

I was wondering, cuz some of the ones I looked at had a funny lookin head on a labs frame

Loneshark 09-13-2012 10:11 PM

AKC will register a silver(registered as chocolate) and red(registered as yellow) both of which are pure-bred.
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Loneshark 09-13-2012 10:16 PM

Speck-Chaser just got a silver.

fullrutt 09-14-2012 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Spunt Drag (Post 492437)
Only colors registered wit your major Kennel Clubs are Black, Yellow, and chocolate. And Robert Authement is reputable and a nice guy to deal with.

This is not true what so ever... A red lab is a thrown off gene from a yellow lab and is registered under yellow lab... It Is excepted with all major kennel clubs... Silvers which are more rare and have came from blacks/chocolates is registered as either black lab or chocolate labs... Now people started breeding blacks with W's to
Get that more deep silver but most od those silvers have been breed blacks to blacks thru good breeders that they are still registered blacks labs...


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Ducktrickster 09-14-2012 05:46 AM

Anyone trying to intentionally breed labs that will not adhere to the breed standard is not a good breeder.

Shawn Braquet 09-14-2012 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducktrickster (Post 492498)
Anyone trying to intentionally breed labs that will not adhere to the breed standard is not a good breeder.

amen

Top Dawg 09-14-2012 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by fullrutt (Post 492496)
This is not true what so ever... A red lab is a thrown off gene from a yellow lab and is registered under yellow lab... It Is excepted with all major kennel clubs... Silvers which are more rare and have came from blacks/chocolates is registered as either black lab or chocolate labs... Now people started breeding blacks with W's to
Get that more deep silver but most od those silvers have been breed blacks to blacks thru good breeders that they are still registered blacks labs...


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So what you're saying is there are only 3 kinds of labs. Black, yellow, and chocolate. We already knew this.

Shawn Braquet 09-14-2012 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 492501)
So what you're saying is there are only 3 kinds of labs. Black, yellow, and chocolate. We already knew this.

Kind of what I was thinking. So there is a red but it's registered as a yellow....doesn't that make it a yellow?? I'm hoping I'm missing something here.:confused:

Top Dawg 09-14-2012 06:14 AM

The red is just a yellow. People call them reds but they are yellow. Silvers are chocolates. Some yellows look red, some look yellow, some look white. But they are all yellow labs!

Shawn Braquet 09-14-2012 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 492506)
The red is just a yellow. People call them reds but they are yellow. Silvers are chocolates. Some yellows look red, some look yellow, some look white. But they are all yellow labs!

Dang now y'all got me thinking my red mini Dachshund is really a yellow lab. Wonder how he'll do in the duck blind. Think I'll just stick to the basic 3 colors. They've all done fine for me so far. :cheers:

Top Dawg 09-14-2012 06:50 AM

Lol

Loneshark 09-14-2012 06:51 AM

Back in pre school I learned my colors and I a can identify the difference between red and yellow and silver and black. To me the color they are registered as is irrelevant. I have a yellow lab now who's dad was Chocolate and mom was black. They had all three of the common colors (black, chocolate, and yellow) in her litter.

Spunt Drag 09-14-2012 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by fullrutt (Post 492496)
This is not true what so ever... A red lab is a thrown off gene from a yellow lab and is registered under yellow lab... It Is excepted with all major kennel clubs... Silvers which are more rare and have came from blacks/chocolates is registered as either black lab or chocolate labs... Now people started breeding blacks with W's to
Get that more deep silver but most od those silvers have been breed blacks to blacks thru good breeders that they are still registered blacks labs...


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I'll repeat myself. The only colors recognized by major kennel clubs, are black, yellow and chocolate. I don't know what y'all are gettin at. I mean it's a fact, it's not my opinion. I knew salty was bad about opinions, but to take a fact and say its wrong is surprising. So and so has a silver lab that's registered, great, but it's registered as a chocolate. John Doe has a registered red lab, but it's registered as a yellow. :help:

Spunt Drag 09-14-2012 09:28 AM

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...36736F0603.jpg
Negro, Amarillo, y Chocolate

fullrutt 09-14-2012 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 492501)
So what you're saying is there are only 3 kinds of labs. Black, yellow, and chocolate. We already knew this.

Well yes but obviously some people do not understand colors or say a red or silver is a yellow or black lab... I know you older but wiser men know your colors...


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Top Dawg 09-14-2012 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by fullrutt (Post 492614)
Well yes but obviously some people do not understand colors or say a red or silver is a yellow or black lab... I know you older but wiser men know your colors...


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:help::eek:

Top Dawg 09-14-2012 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Spunt Drag (Post 492589)

Only thing red in that picture is that rocket!!!

noodle creek 09-14-2012 10:29 AM

I'll never have anything but a black; original, purest bred labs

Spunt Drag 09-14-2012 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 492619)
Only thing red in that picture is that rocket!!!

Duh! He was on the downwind side of that chocolate female. We've all been there

speck-chaser 09-14-2012 11:15 AM

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Yes, I have a new "Silver" Lab puppy. I got it from a reputable breeder who has been consitantly turning out silvers for 16 years now. For those of you who "think" you know that labs are bred with weimies to get this color, you need to do some more homework. They are still registered under the heading of chocolate,because the specifications state that colors can range from sedge to chocolate. Check with akc,they have done a good bit of research on these silvers.My puppies daddy was a Silver,and the mom was a factored silver chocolate. They had a litter of 8. 5 silvers and 3 chocolates. Soooo.... dont be hatin.lol The last pic is the baby daddy.

Feesherman 09-14-2012 11:37 AM

Specifically breeding for color is a huge disservice to the breed! Just like them short legged pig lookin labs at the dog shows!

Top Dawg 09-14-2012 12:07 PM

Yep. So have we finally narrowed it down that their are only chocolate, yellow, and black labs???

Top Dawg 09-14-2012 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by noodle creek (Post 492632)
I'll never have anything but a black; original, purest bred labs

This is also true. The black is the most superior color of the breed.

1234567 09-14-2012 12:10 PM

Post your pedigree of the silver lab if you dont mind.

Raymond 09-14-2012 12:29 PM

Have fun.

http://www.thelabradorclub.com/subpa...news.php?nid=3

jldsc 09-14-2012 12:32 PM

boy your pups dad is an animal and a beautiful dog...where could I get my hands on one like him??

bbrown 09-14-2012 12:37 PM

I knew a guy that had two silver lab puppies when he let his 2 chocolate littermates to close to each other when the female was in heat....I personally don't want a dog that takes a little sister twister to make.

I have taken bits and pieces of advice from Raymond Little on dogs and the major theme is "when you start breeding for a specific color and not for genetic traits you are getting exactly what you are paying for"

Top Dawg 09-14-2012 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 492688)

Cut and dry right there!!!

Feesherman 09-14-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bbrown (Post 492695)
"when you start breeding for a specific color and not for genetic traits you are getting exactly what you are paying for"

Pretty much exactly what I said.

Spunt Drag 09-14-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 492696)
Cut and dry right there!!!

Exactly! It's science! A simple Punnet square will tell you, labs have B, E, or b. They don't have any other pigments.

1234567 09-14-2012 01:23 PM

So really what he has is cross breed btw a Weimaraner and lab.
Some people just want to be different.

Top Dawg 09-14-2012 01:26 PM

And theres nothing wrong with that. But if you want a pure bred Labrador it's either going to be black, yellow, or chocolate.

Feesherman 09-14-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 492712)
And theres nothing wrong with that. But if you want a pure bred Labrador it's either going to be black, yellow, or chocolate.


Lot of folks out there like to be different from the norm and that is cool. Folks also don't like being taken down the river. So when they pay big money for a "silver" lab, they will argue all day long that their lab is really a lab. Even though it isn't. What is most concerning is that breeding for certain colors will be the downfall of some great blood lines. People want a groovy rainbow colored lab instead of good genetics. Who cares if it has bad eyes, and bad hips? The damn thing is rainbow! Gimme a high five bro!

Raymond 09-14-2012 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Feesherman (Post 492749)
Lot of folks out there like to be different from the norm and that is cool. Folks also don't like being taken down the river. So when they pay big money for a "silver" lab, they will argue all day long that their lab is really a lab. Even though it isn't. What is most concerning is that breeding for certain colors will be the downfall of some great blood lines. People want a groovy rainbow colored lab instead of good genetics. Who cares if it has bad eyes, and bad hips? The damn thing is rainbow! Gimme a high five bro!

Hater/Racist:D


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