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cricket 09-15-2012 03:31 PM

Taking bids on new A/C and spray foam insulation
 
I'm building a new home an I'm starting taking bids in on A/C and spray foam insulation. If you know someone who does either one please let me know. Or if you do either one please feel free to contact me at 337-304-0129. Name is Corey. Thanks.

ScubaLatt 09-15-2012 04:30 PM

who's your daddy, Cricket?

DannyI 09-15-2012 05:15 PM

Felice AC - "owner Mike Deville" 337-802-9393

Big Kahunaz 09-15-2012 08:12 PM

Buddy of mine will take care of ya!
Martin Insulation & Coatings

Address: 7219 Vermillion Drive, Lake Charles, LA 70605
Phone: (337) 274-6611

http://www.gmartininsulation.com/

swamp snorkler 09-15-2012 09:37 PM

Research how much tonnage you need on your AC if you go with the spray foam. From what I understand you have to undersize your unit to make it run more. Help to remove the humidity.

fishinpox 09-15-2012 10:46 PM

If u have combustible gas furnace, h20 heater in attic n u make it a sealed system by spraying foam on rafters make sure u know what u are doing for make up air damper and have someone engineer it . I suggest not doing the rafters but doing the ceiling joists and walls or do walls with rock wool and ceiling joist with foam if u wanna get close results for 1/2 the price. I build high end homes for a living and that is how I'm doing my personal home I'm currently building. Walls rockwool, between floors 12" batts, ceiling / attic floor open cell foam . Also if you foam rafters is a pain in the butt if u ever have roof leak

fishinpox 09-15-2012 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by swamp snorkler (Post 493255)
research how much tonnage you need on your ac if you go with the spray foam. From what i understand you have to undersize your unit to make it run more. Help to remove the humidity.

true to c certian extent.... Now a days hvac companies are overtonning every new house so theydont get call backs .. Problem is that causes system/ ducts to sweat badly , so by under tonning it all you will do is have a warm house . What you need to do is under ton it and use a variable speed 2 stage system so you can either slow the fan down or speed it up depending on humidity levels. In our new house i under ton it , upgraded to a 16 seer variable speed system . After we move in i have a engineer that will come tweak the system and fans so we cab get around 27-31% humidity . Temp is not what make syou uncomfortable in a house it is the humidity . Currently to stay semi comfortable st my house im living in we set it at 67* which is cold but if we go higher it gets muddy and warm . So with our new system the plan is to stay around 70-72* but only be 27-31% humidity.

cricket 09-16-2012 09:00 AM

What's rockwool. Never heard of it.

weedeater 09-16-2012 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cricket (Post 493359)
What's rockwool. Never heard of it.

That's what I was wondering along with how it compared to cellulose and how is it as far as dusting and compacting over time

PaulMyers 09-16-2012 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 493369)
That's what I was wondering along with how it compared to cellulose and how is it as far as dusting and compacting over time

Rockwool and Cellulose are the same, then there is the blown in fiberglass and sprayed in Urethane Foam or whatever it it.

fishinpox 09-16-2012 10:36 AM

Rockwooo and cellulose are not the same, rock wool is much denser when installed and less likely to sag in the wall. Also cellulose is flamable ( they say it's been coated with a fire retardant but at the end of the day it's news paper..... Flamable) . Blown Rock wool is way to go , only down side is u have to wait about a week for it to dry before u sheet rock , they suggest only waiting a few days but I've found it still damp after 2 days so I wait 5-7 days. I'm getting ready to insulate 2 houses in the next couple weeks if you'd like u can come watch the process

PaulMyers 09-16-2012 10:38 AM

My bad! :o

southern151 09-16-2012 10:39 AM

What is the cost difference in rockwool and say traditional fiberglass insulation going in your walls?

weedeater 09-16-2012 11:20 AM

Does it cause dust?

fishinpox 09-16-2012 01:41 PM

Cost is not quite double traditional batt insulation. Batt insulation is fine IF and only IF it's installed properly , and I have yet to see it installed properly in the past few years. As far as dust what dosent go in the wall gets vacuumed up n reused

cricket 09-16-2012 02:00 PM

Thanks for the info. I just want to make the right decision now not to regret it later. Still thinking of going with spray foam an be done with it. Got a bid yesterday on a 4 ton amana with heat pump. Two stage blower, 16 seer material and labor for 8k. Compressor has life time warranty and 15 years on labor. Not sure on amana though. Still gonna get a couple more bids but from what I hear thats a good price. Decisions, decisions.

Ray 09-16-2012 02:21 PM

Everyone will be in the same ball park on the a/c system, if the units are comparable.
The higher the SEER, the higher the costs.
Lifetime on the compressor in not bad, but they will probably up the price to pay for one later in the life of the a/c.
In the past 5 years, air conditioning has changed so much, it's hard to keep up if you are not in the business.

Swlatiger 09-16-2012 02:42 PM

I had Chris Castile with C & C insulation do my attic with spray foam in May. I have 3500 sqft a/c'ed space and my electric bill last summer was running about $385 per month with last Sept being the worst ever @ $478. It hasn't been over $210 since. His number is (337) 302-4202.

cricket 09-16-2012 03:21 PM

That's a bad electric bill. If I saw one like that I'd kill myself. Lol. Thanks for the info I'll call him.

Swlatiger 09-16-2012 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cricket (Post 493559)
That's a bad electric bill. If I saw one like that I'd kill myself. Lol. Thanks for the info I'll call him.

Funny how before I bought my current money pit I would have said the exact same thing. My neighbor regularly has bills over $450, but he has a pool and a pool house...

weedeater 09-16-2012 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Swlatiger (Post 493609)
Funny how before I bought my current money pit I would have said the exact same thing. My neighbor regularly has bills over $450, but he has a pool and a pool house...

Where you live?

cricket 09-16-2012 04:55 PM

Entergy loves y'all. Lol

swamp snorkler 09-16-2012 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cricket (Post 493477)
Thanks for the info. I just want to make the right decision now not to regret it later. Still thinking of going with spray foam an be done with it. Got a bid yesterday on a 4 ton amana with heat pump. Two stage blower, 16 seer material and labor for 8k. Compressor has life time warranty and 15 years on labor. Not sure on amana though. Still gonna get a couple more bids but from what I hear thats a good price. Decisions, decisions.

I just read this to my neighbor who owns an AC company and he said that's a good price.

I
On our way to grand isle last weekend he quoted someone over the phone 4,000 for a 3 ton 13 seer. The most basic you could get.

pdar88 09-16-2012 05:55 PM

Call me before you do anything. I live in Bossier, La. I'm a H.V.A.C. Engineer. Not trying to sell you anything, but I can sure prevent you from making alot of Mistakes.
Paul 318-426-8425

Ray 09-16-2012 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by swamp snorkler (Post 493654)
I just read this to my neighbor who owns an AC company and he said that's a good price.

I
On our way to grand isle last weekend he quoted someone over the phone 4,000 for a 3 ton 13 seer. The most basic you could get.

$4000 is cheap, if that includes all the duct work.

Swlatiger 09-16-2012 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 493611)
Where you live?

In Jennings

Texxan1 09-16-2012 08:13 PM

Cricket,

What size house are you building?

I have a 1900sf house and we have a 2ton heat pump unit (lennox)(2 stage) and we have a fully encapsulated house with spray foam on the rafters, in the walls, and the underside (house is on stilts).

Our house gets FRIDGID, as the wife likes it at 68 inside..

4 Ton is way to much unless your house is over 3500sf.. You need to make sure the proper Manual J calculation is done.. Also, there are some other things to consider when doing spray foam... 1 penetration for plumbing vents, sealed eaves, no vents etc etc

Thomas

worm 09-16-2012 09:13 PM

I have the spray foam and love it only concern is if I have a leak in the roof my average eltric bill for 2100sf home is 100 dollars.

cricket 09-17-2012 04:55 AM

Hey quick question. If I go with foam does the plumber still stub out through the roof.

Swlatiger 09-17-2012 06:24 AM

I'm not an expert by any stretch but I would think yes. It'd be easier for them to almost finish before it's sprayed. You'd end up disturbing too much by trying to work up there after its done.

fishinpox 09-17-2012 06:49 AM

Yes

swamp snorkler 09-17-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray (Post 493687)
$4000 is cheap, if that includes all the duct work.


That was with the existing duct work


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