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ford42 09-17-2012 06:02 PM

Looking for a new autoloading shotgun, advice please!
 
Im looking for a new semi-auto shotgun, im coming from a BPS(12ga). What i will be hunting most is, pheasant and hoping to get into goose and duck. I also shoot a lot of clays... I'm Leaning toward the browning Silver Hunter, but also considering beretta A300. Is it worth to stretch my budget for the Maxus?

Let me know what you think, I AM OPEN TO OTHER SHOTGUNS.

Thank you,
Adam

SULPHITE 09-17-2012 06:04 PM

i would go for a lighter weighted shotgun being as pheasant hunting usually requires a bit of walking

meaux fishing 09-17-2012 06:11 PM

browning silver is a nice gun. One of my duck hunting partners shoots one. I agree with Sul though lighter is better espcially with doing alot of walking. Although if you are used to a BPS a silver is a lighter gun

all star rod 09-17-2012 06:12 PM

Benelli vinci is very light.....get one you will love them...i have 2.

meaux fishing 09-17-2012 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 494073)
Benelli vinci is very light.....get one you will love them...i have 2.

super vinci is even lighter...gonna be my next gun

cmcnabb 09-17-2012 06:32 PM

If you like takin your gun completely apart all the time and cleaning it, go with browning gold or silver. If you want reliable, go Italian, beretta, benelli, franchi

ford42 09-17-2012 06:58 PM

What do u think of the benelli inertia system? Dont u have to clean all auto loader frequently?

Kenner18 09-17-2012 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cmcnabb (Post 494084)
If you like takin your gun completely apart all the time and cleaning it, go with browning gold or silver. If you want reliable, go Italian, beretta, benelli, franchi

Where do yall come up with this crap ? I have shot Brownings for the past 15 yrs and never had to do this . I clean it at the beginning and the end of duck season ,thats it . I own a Gold ,Silver and a Maxus no problems .

cmcnabb 09-17-2012 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenner18 (Post 494100)
Where do yall come up with this crap ? I have shot Brownings for the past 15 yrs and never had to do this . I clean it at the beginning and the end of duck season ,thats it . I own a Gold ,Silver and a Maxus no problems .

I have hunted probably 10 different people with golds or silvers and I have seen 1 work the way it should. If it works for you, great. I have never seen a maxus so I can't say anything about it

Kenner18 09-17-2012 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cmcnabb (Post 494101)
I have hunted probably 10 different people with golds or silvers and I have seen 1 work the way it should. If it works for you, great. I have never seen a maxus so I can't say anything about it

I have hunted with the same amount of people who have hated Benellis ,but I never owned one so I cant speak about them being junk . If you dont own it how can you say its junk ,at least thats my opinion .

simplepeddler 09-17-2012 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ford42 (Post 494092)
What do u think of the benelli inertia system? Dont u have to clean all auto loader frequently?

the Inertia system is proven.....I clean my gas operated Berettas once a year before they go back in the safe unless I dunk them in the brackish areas we hunt.
Bottom line stay with the "B" guns and you'll be fine.
No Browning is makin the Winchester and Beretta is making the Franchi.
I am going pick up the Franchi Affinity for my son tomorrow.

cmcnabb 09-17-2012 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenner18 (Post 494105)
I have hunted with the same amount of people who have hated Benellis ,but I never owned one so I cant speak about them being junk . If you dont own it how can you say its junk ,at least thats my opinion .

I never said I hate browning I said I have seen enough fail to know I don't want one. I'll never own one either because of what I've seen

bluewing 09-17-2012 08:09 PM

Super x-3

Top Dawg 09-17-2012 08:27 PM

I have an old browning auto that was given to me. And I have seen brownings fail on several occasions. I also will never buy one. I love my Vinci. And if you want light it's the gun. Berettas are very good guns from my experience too. I don't think you can go wrong with either of these guns but the beretta will be heavier than the Vinci.

ford42 09-17-2012 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenner18 (Post 494100)
Where do yall come up with this crap ? I have shot Brownings for the past 15 yrs and never had to do this . I clean it at the beginning and the end of duck season ,thats it . I own a Gold ,Silver and a Maxus no problems .

If you could only have one of those three what one would you pick?

Armand16 09-17-2012 09:56 PM

Browning Gold. I have two and they both shoot flawlessly. The maxus is pretty sweet and I would say thats my next gun but I don't think I will be buying another shotgun.

Kenner18 09-18-2012 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ford42 (Post 494168)
If you could only have one of those three what one would you pick?

I actually shoot the silver better than any of them . The Maxus is lightest of the three and probably my favorite one. And Im waiting to get my hands on the new A5 next . Im a Browning fan and collector .
The main thing is pick which gun fits you best ,no matter who makes it .
I have seen ALL of the manufacturers guns fail at some point,so its really up to you and what you wanna spend your money on.

ford42 09-18-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenner18 (Post 494203)
I actually shoot the silver better than any of them . The Maxus is lightest of the three and probably my favorite one. And Im waiting to get my hands on the new A5 next . Im a Browning fan and collector .
The main thing is pick which gun fits you best ,no matter who makes it .
I have seen ALL of the manufacturers guns fail at some point,so its really up to you and what you wanna spend your money on.

whats the difference between the gold and the silver?
Is it worth the extra $200-$300 for the maxus?

DUCKGOGETTER 09-18-2012 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ford42 (Post 494426)
whats the difference between the gold and the silver?
Is it worth the extra $200-$300 for the maxus?


my dad has a maxus i shot sunday and i love it. Thinking about buying one

noodle creek 09-18-2012 02:30 PM

Maxus or winchester SX3. Both are lighter guns for pheasant hunting.

Kenner18 09-18-2012 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ford42 (Post 494426)
whats the difference between the gold and the silver?
Is it worth the extra $200-$300 for the maxus?

The gold has a rounded reciever and a magazine cuttoff, the silver has a semi hump back reciever and no magazine cuttoff. The maxus has the rounded reciever and a magazine cutoff . The maxus is lighter than both the gold and silver .

I like the design of the Maxus ,it has a quick release forearm so when u have to do all that cleaning its easier ....l m a o

noodle creek 09-18-2012 06:38 PM

I've said this 10 times on here, but through the course of the season (I hunt 58 days a year for the last 4 years) benelli's fail far more often than any other brand. It's hard for me to argue with what I see go on all the time. The crazy thing is, 90% of the people with brand new benellis that don't work worth a crap still believe they have the most awesome shotgun ever made. Of our 6 guides that hunt every day, we have 3 brownings, 2 winchesters, and 1 beretta. They all get treated like crap, and all of our guns work all the time. Therefore, I will personally never own a benelli. Now if they feel good, buy one and take a chance, some people do own some that have been working forever, but I would just never be able to talk myself into buying one after what I have seen.

all star rod 09-18-2012 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by noodle creek (Post 494549)
I've said this 10 times on here, but through the course of the season (I hunt 58 days a year for the last 4 years) benelli's fail far more often than any other brand. It's hard for me to argue with what I see go on all the time. The crazy thing is, 90% of the people with brand new benellis that don't work worth a crap still believe they have the most awesome shotgun ever made. Of our 6 guides that hunt every day, we have 3 brownings, 2 winchesters, and 1 beretta. They all get treated like crap, and all of our guns work all the time. Therefore, I will personally never own a benelli. Now if they feel good, buy one and take a chance, some people do own some that have been working forever, but I would just never be able to talk myself into buying one after what I have seen.



I feel very, very lucky now...
I have been shooting a benelli since 2002 with really no issues!

So what was the issue most were having with them?????

noodle creek 09-18-2012 08:38 PM

1 shot and jam

noodle creek 09-18-2012 08:40 PM

I also know 2 people that have had a super black since bout the late 90's and they are good guns. But I can also name 3 people off the top of my head that ended up getting rid of them. The Vinci's are too new for me to give an opinion, but so far I think they are good guns.

Top Dawg 09-18-2012 08:53 PM

I don't hunt with a lot of different people and of the ones that have had brownings had trouble. That's almost 100%. That's why I won't own one. I haven't had the first lick of trouble with my Vinci yet. But we will see. I would buy benelli or beretta. Just through my own experience I wouldn't touch browning with a 10 foot pole. Now the BPS is a good gun IMO. I would own one of those. Just not an auto.

kcinnick 09-18-2012 09:24 PM

Best value in an auto loader today is a Mossberg 930 - Jerry Miculek edition. Great for an entry level 3gun shotgun, got to be good enough for hunting.

meaux fishing 09-18-2012 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kcinnick (Post 494643)
Best value in an auto loader today is a Mossberg 930 - Jerry Miculek edition. Great for an entry level 3gun shotgun, got to be good enough for hunting.

One of my friends had a mossberg auto. That thing was a piece junk. It jammed everytime he shot and also the gun almost fell apart when he shot a 3.5 out of it. The new ones might be better I don't know but that gun was only a few years old

kcinnick 09-19-2012 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 494670)
One of my friends had a mossberg auto. That thing was a piece junk. It jammed everytime he shot and also the gun almost fell apart when he shot a 3.5 out of it. The new ones might be better I don't know but that gun was only a few years old

I specified a model and edition. I don't know much about the line, but Jerry and his brother are using it in 3 gun when they can (sometimes you have to shoot the provided guns, sometimes a certain sponsors gun). Jerry said it is the only Auto shot gun he doesn't have to wait on to pull the trigger again... this wasn't advertising, this was shootin bull with his brother.

SULPHITE 09-19-2012 08:46 AM

I would assume the higher end mossberg would be acceptable for the average hunter...now a buddy i hunt with has put his browning gold through the ringer...and it still eats the crap out of anything. I want to say its probably 7-8 yr old gun or maybe older...

meaux fishing 09-19-2012 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by kcinnick (Post 494673)
I specified a model and edition. I don't know much about the line, but Jerry and his brother are using it in 3 gun when they can (sometimes you have to shoot the provided guns, sometimes a certain sponsors gun). Jerry said it is the only Auto shot gun he doesn't have to wait on to pull the trigger again... this wasn't advertising, this was shootin bull with his brother.

I wasn't saying you were wrong I was just letting people know that not every Mossberg auto is good

ford42 09-19-2012 11:46 AM

I have a curvball, Anyone have info on the Benelli Montefeltro? I took a look at it yesterday, it looked and felt nice.

kcinnick 09-19-2012 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 494714)
I wasn't saying you were wrong I was just letting people know that not every Mossberg auto is good

Yeah, I wouldn't pick up just any Mossy Shotgun. The package on the Miculek gun is pretty good.

1234567 09-19-2012 02:05 PM

I have a browning silver. Just got it last year. Put maybe 700 to 800 rounds through it. No jams. you do have to clean a browning. I agree with Noodle creek. Everyone talks about a Benelli like it is gods gift to hunters, they are fair guns. I had a buddy's whose jammed right out the box , and still jams after he sent it to benelli.

i guided in south america one summer and we had Beretta Urika 391 and SBE 1

Probably shot 30,000+ rounds through 8 guns that summer, SBE jammed after about 1 box of shells every time, like clockwork. We would actually bring 2 benelli's per person just because we knew it would jam. Berettas did not jam 1 time the ENTIRE summer. Not one single jam.

Benelli's just feel good when you shoulder them, which is why people makes excuses for them jamming.

Reefman 09-19-2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ford42 (Post 494787)
I have a curvball, Anyone have info on the Benelli Montefeltro? I took a look at it yesterday, it looked and felt nice.

Bought one last year in 20g w/ 3 inch chamber. I hunt doves and ducks with this gun. Never, ever a jam or problem shooting low brass to heavy steel loads. This is the only gun I bring hunting now.

1234567 09-19-2012 02:24 PM

dont get me wrong, It might jam not jam, some are good. But put 2000 rounds through it and let me know what happens. your spring will loosen up, jam, jam, jam

ford42 09-19-2012 02:47 PM

Well, after all of this great advice and stories. I think they all suck ahahah. The fact is, every tool like this can have a problem no matter the brand. I currently own a BPS and have had good luck, so im going to stick with Browning. Im gunna go pick up a nice Silver 12ga with a 3" chamber and 28" barrel this week. Thanks for the help everyone.

Matt G 09-19-2012 03:00 PM

Got a Benelli Nova years ago as a gift and I never really cared for it. I've never had a single problem with it, but it just never felt right to me. I won a Beretta 391 last year, and that thing is amazing. However, I am partial to pumps, so my old 870 Express is always my go to.

Top Dawg 09-19-2012 04:02 PM

Also have a 4 or 5 year warranty with my Vinci. Get whatever you prefer and what fits you best. People that have brownings and berettas are gonna say benellis suck. People who have benellis are gonna say brownings/berettas suck. I like berettas and benellis and I think they are both great guns. Benelli felt better to me. But I know someone who had a née browning out the box and wouldnt even shoot. Firing pin wouldn't hit the shell. I personally wouldn't buy a browning. But that's why they have chocolate and vanilla. Someone mentioned the beretta 391. That is a great gun specially for the price. Good luck with whatever you decide. Hope you fall in love with it like I have my benelli!

cmcnabb 09-19-2012 06:33 PM

Your right, people will say whatever they own is the best. At the end of the day, it's all opinion. Browning makes sweet rifles and one of the best pump shotguns on the market. I just feel their gold and silver autos are junk. My dad has a browning gold 10 gauge that is junk. My buddy bought a browning gold 10 gauge and it's junk. Been back to browning twice and both times they told him he needed to clean it. There hadn't even been 2 boxes of shells through it! My beretta has jammed a few times in 2 years and it was due to it not being cleaned all season and getting rained on. Usually a shot of oil on the bolt is a bandaid to get me through the day til I can break it down. I like benelli, but prefer beretta. I like their gas system better than inertia. And that's another preference people can debate on for days

Top Dawg 09-19-2012 06:51 PM

Right. I've seen berettas jam. My benelli is still pretty new and hasn't jammed yet but I'm sure it's coming sooner or later. They are man made mechanisms and that means none of em are perfect. And I'm sure their are lemons in every brand. Buy what fits YOUR preference and you can't go wrong.

cmcnabb 09-19-2012 07:00 PM

10 4 on that. Can't speak for the Vinci, but if you got a spring and tube in your stock, look into a sure cycle if yours wears out. You probably know that though. I changed mine in my beretta 390 after about 4 years and it works damn good

Top Dawg 09-19-2012 07:55 PM

Yea. The Vinci Doesnt have the spring in the stock. Its in line with the chamber. My cousin had the same issue with his beretta. Spring rusted in the stock from hunting a salt marsh for years. Changed went to stainless and back shuckin shells.

Spunt Drag 09-19-2012 09:18 PM

I had a guy a pick up my Vinci opening day of dove and said it was SOOO heavy. How big of a pain in the azz it would be to tote that thing hunting upland all day and how them benellis just don't cut the cheese blah blah blah. I just let him ramble. My Vinci weighs in at 6.8 lbs, while his trot line weight browning a-5 is a featherlight 9 lbs. People just wanna slam brands, my guns weighs over 2lbs lighter than his but he couldn't miss an opportunity to ridicule an italian shotgun. I didn't correct him because maw maw always said don't argue wit an idiot, people won't be able to tell the difference. She also said believe nothin you hear and half of what you see.

LPfishnTIM 09-19-2012 09:21 PM

get a red jacket saiga 12g j/k!

Big Tee 09-26-2012 10:12 AM

Super X 3 is the way to go. Love mine !!!!! I came from a pump and let me tell you it is a world of differance !

Nick1230 10-23-2012 07:24 PM

All you have to do is go to any gun dealer and ask them what is their best selling shotgun. 99.9% of the time they will tell you beretta or benelli!! You don't become the worlds biggest shotgun seller by offering a "OK" shotgun. The facts an research don't lie! (unless your Obama)😁 like an earlier post, stick with the "B"s!!


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Ducktrickster 10-23-2012 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenner18 (Post 494105)
I have hunted with the same amount of people who have hated Benellis ,but I never owned one so I cant speak about them being junk . If you dont own it how can you say its junk ,at least thats my opinion .

I own two and they are junk.

specktator 10-23-2012 08:48 PM

I own 3 and my dad owns 1 and wouldn't trade them for anything!

cmcnabb 10-23-2012 08:49 PM

Here we go again


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