Ford F150 Diesel coming soon
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/13/n...ngine-scooped/
supposed to get 20 percent better mileage than the 5.4 triton... Ford may be on to something here |
sounds good but pricey
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when chevy makes one it would be amazing
use a german company though |
gm is supposed to be also coming out with a diesel for the quarter tons.
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one thing is for sure i would NOT buy the first year model that this is offered, wait a few years until they dial it in
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Just cant see that being cost efficent. The cost of diesel now and just wait winter isnt here yet.
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Chevy tuff...
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YOU told me you secretly loved davids king rancher.....:*****: who cares about cost efficient when it's already a 330 hp 450 lbs of torque stock engine, reprogram that beast and you got a 13 second half ton pickup at basically bone stock cost. |
I wouldn't count on any inovation from Government Motors for a while. A 1/2 ton disel from ford doesn't suprise me a bit. Just another reason why they are not on the welfare rolls like GM & Chrysler.
Now before anyone goes to screaming let me say that own 2 Dodges and 1 Chevy and the fuel economy sucks in each one. my 3/4ton GM gets 12mpg 1/2ton Dodge 15mpg and wifes Durango 18mpg. I drive a Ford Expidition for work and with 150k on the clock it gets better than 20mpg. You can bet my next one will be a ford.Maybe even a diesel?.SK |
yeah i would def wait a year before buying. the diesel in the quarter ton should have been done a long time ago. ive always wanted a diesel for all the crap i pull around but never really liked the big body hd's.
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GM and Ford have both been talking about doing this for several years now. I believe that these trucks would have already been out had oil makers been able to stabilize diesel prices earlier.
I'm out on any first year production. I worked as a service advisor for a Chevy dealer the first year the Duramax came out...It was nothing nice!:shaking: There has been rumor that Toyota will be making a half ton diesel in the coming years as well. If they do, American manufacturers are really gonna be in a bind! |
Overseas has had small diesel trucks since way back and they hold up to good for here in the US. Nobody can make any money they wouldnt break
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ford baby ford if its gonna be a diesel. wait hold up before you bash i admit the newer ford diesels suck, but i drive a powerstroke 7.3 and if you know anything about diesels you should know that the 7.3 is the baddest diesel of them all!!!!!!!!!!
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i like the new cummin's over the new ford. but i can't put the 5.9 over the 7.3! the powerstrokes come out on top. i was told that the only reason they quit making the 7.3 powerstroke was because after sinking millions in to it they could not get the motor to meet the new EPA standards so they had no choice but to discontinue. that sucks because they have been hit or miss since then. i would like to have a new f250 with a new cummins diesel in it if i had to get a new truck.
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heck no they would never make it that easy for you. that is just one of my sick fantasies.
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I read about this a couple years back. Ford was going to use a diesel provided by Land Rover. Dodge is supposed to use a new build by Cummins and Chevy is supposed to make their own. Dodge and Chevy were supposed to come out in 2009 and Ford in 2010.
I have the 1999 F-250 7.3L diesel. It is 11 years old. The cost of the diesel is not bad if you keep the truck long enough. If you trade every 4 or 5 years and you do not pull anything, it would be a waste of money to invest any extra money in the diesel engine. I have a friend who had a 1997 F-350 that had 800K miles on her. All he did was change a few clutches and a radiator. Hurricane Rita took that one out. He got his money's worth out of her. WHen diesel was $4.50/gal., it still didn't hurt me. I didn't have a $500 note like most of the guys I work with. And I get 20 mpg on the highway. That ain't bad for a 3/4 ton truck. If you keep the truck till it costs you too much money to keep her going, then get a diesel. It will definitely save you money in the long run. I have invested in a new clutch at 175K miles. I have bought 3 sets of tires, one fan belt and 2 sets of batteries in 200K miles. That is all she needed in 11 years besides oil and filters. I am hoping to get another 5 years out of her, then find a small truck to scoot around in, but I will keep the 3/4 ton to move our tractor between Cameron and Lake Charles with. The old Ford will stay with me until she dies. |
thats what most ford diesel owners say ray
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It is the first truck that I have ever kept longer than 3 or 4 years.
I had a Dodge diesel for 4 years, but back then, it was too loud and vibrated too much. |
the best truck would be f-350 with a cat in her. when i hit the powerball ill post the pics
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I have been working for a dealer that sells or sold all three Chevy, Ford and Dodge for the past 12 years. I started pulling wrenches then service manger, parts manger and now salesman. The old 7.3 was and is the king of diesels. As for whats out right now we see far fewer Duramax diesels in the service isle than the other two. I have pulled so many cabs on the Ford and Dodge I can just about do it in my sleep. Try to calm down a customer that sees his $60k truck cab off the frame up in the air on the lift and that his heads are shot at 12k miles. It's not a fun task. I will happily sell anyone which ever they want but if it's my dollar the Chevy is the only one I'm buying. GM did have a half ton diesel ready for the showroom before the gov. changed emission regulations again. All the new diesels will have urea(spell) injected that will have to be recharged at the dealership every few oil changes that will cost about $60 a pop. So it was scrapped for now.
Also Slip Knot I have a 2003 Expedition with 50k miles and have never gotten better than 15mpg and thats going down hill with the cruise set to 55 and 30mph wind to my back. If you are getting anywhere close to 20mpg thats about 5-6 mpg better than I have ever seen on any Expedition in 12 years run that thing till it dies. I think I still have all the info on the Chevy half ton diesel in my desk. If I can find it I will post on Monday. |
Waste of old technology trying to pass off as something new. Remember the old Isuzu pups? Them things got sick gas mileage in a little 4 cylinder. Guys, don't fall for the Obamacrap about making the world green. This techno been around a long time. Just my 2.
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Back in the mid 80's a buddy had a Chevy Luv 4X4 with an Isuzu 4 banger diesel. That was a bad mofo. he got 35-40mpg on the high way and it pulled my 20ft Cuddy all over with no problems. He drove it all thru college and for at least 5yrs after. I would love to see a compact 4X with a small diesel built again. would look at buying one for sure...SK
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Ford scrapped their diesel and GM doesn't have a clue, started researching this summer. Sorry to burst yo bubble.;)
UPDATE: October 16,2008 - PickupTrucks.com is now reporting that we may in fact not see a F150 diesel model. Or, if we do it may be delayed. Apparently Ford is considering the EcoBoost option as a better alternative. |
I know a shrimper that had an Izuzu Pup diesel. The body fell apart long before the engine did. Great little engine.
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I had heard that toyota is supposed to be coming out with a 3/4 ton with a cat diesel in 2010. Havent heard much about it lately though. Its good to hear some of yalls thoughts on these different engines. I will probably be in the market here shortly for a good older used diesel. Preferebly 1 ton or more dually to pull my gooseneck. It seems I keep getting bigger,heavier pieces of equipment for my business. Then I need a bigger trailer to haul them, then I need a bigger truck to pull them. Lol Its a vicious cycle. RIght now Im using my dads old 96 dodge with the v-10. Pulling a load,Im getting about 4.5 miles to the gallon.
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ford will be putting the 6.7 scorpion diesel into the 3/4 and 1 tons, standard 750 pounds of torque..
i'm sorry but i'm not buying another vehicle from obama and the unions' government motors. ford also has direct injection technology on the way for the triton gas engines, this should increase hp and fuel mileage. |
*** is a Scorpion diesel?
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Is it an International spin off or something new?
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But what is the additive going to cost you?
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Just read about it. Totally new engine, totally new turbo, totally new transmission.
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You won't see a 1/2 ton diesel until the morons in Washington stop creating stricter emissions laws on diesels. If someone can't afford a 3/4 or 1 ton diesel, what makes anyone think they would accept the 12mpg the current diesel models are getting due to the ridiculous EPA equipment that gets even more ridiculous starting with next year's models. I'd be surprised if any of the 2010 models get over 10mpg.
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I run a dodge with 6.7 diesel and I wont switch anytime soon. My truck is a 2007 and has 180000 miles on it all pulling a 40gn trailer and I have loaded 18000 plus pounds worth of equipment on that trailer and I average around 11mpg while pulling. I have changed one throttle positioning system and one fuse box. Other than that add fuel and do routine maintance. I have herd all of the crap about Dodges not holding up and their transmission are junk and I can personally tell you this is not true. I change my tranny oil every 30000 miles and I have had 0 problems with it. On a scale of 1 to 10 I rate my dodge as a 10 because it is the best truck I have ever owned.
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