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"W" 11-16-2012 09:15 AM

and They do it again
 
Union kills 600 plus more Jobs !!!

NO More Ding Dongs

http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...,3175964.story


Most Famous sign from Unions

CLOSED

Shoalwater Cat 11-16-2012 09:24 AM

Try 18k jobs.. Closing down completely..

No more wonderbread either..

"W" 11-16-2012 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoalwater Cat (Post 517571)
Try 18k jobs.. Closing down completely..

No more wonderbread either..

This is what Unions are famous for!!!!

flounder_smacker 11-16-2012 09:26 AM

The hell with ding dongs. What am I going to do for my damn twinkies?

Spunt Drag 11-16-2012 09:31 AM

An old ironworker told me one time, "I've been doing this for 40 years, and never made anybody any money."

"W" 11-16-2012 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by flounder_smacker (Post 517575)
The hell with ding dongs. What am I going to do for my damn twinkies?

Ebay ... Collector items

Matt G 11-16-2012 09:47 AM

I saw this this morning and was waiting to see a thread on here. I am freaking tired of people's "business and rich people are evil" crap! They give you a job and a means to support your family. What else do you want them to give you?! My boss probably makes 4 times what I do, but he worked to get to the top. He deserves it!! When I see him everyday, I don't scream at him to give me more, I thank him for what he as already given me.

Why not make a few concessions, keep your job, and let the company become financially sound again. I promise when they would get back on the right path, they would recognize what their employees did for them and pay it forward.

Good luck trying to find a job with 18,000 more unemployed people. And not to mention the fact that your name would be associated with the Union that killed an American icon.

jdm4x43732 11-16-2012 09:49 AM

Union = Salty Cajun Taboo.............
Unions gonna close the thread..............

southern151 11-16-2012 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt G (Post 517586)
I saw this this morning and was waiting to see a thread on here. I am freaking tired of people's "business and rich people are evil" crap! They give you a job and a means to support your family. What else do you want them to give you?! My boss probably makes 4 times what I do, but he worked to get to the top. He deserves it!! When I see him everyday, I don't scream at him to give me more, I thank him for what he as already given me.

Why not make a few concessions, keep your job, and let the company become financially sound again. I promise when they would get back on the right path, they would recognize what their employees did for them and pay it forward.

Good luck trying to find a job with 18,000 more unemployed people. And not to mention the fact that your name would be associated with the Union that killed an American icon.


This!!!^^^^ What many 99%'s and, sometimes unions fail to realize is that when their day is done on the job, they go home and don't worry about P&L statements, whether or not the business ins premiums spike or, if the light bill will get paid. Most owners take a huge risk by becoming an owner...It's called everything they own! I think, for sticking your neck out there on the line, you should be rewarded more than the guy who comes in at 8am already asking if it's close enough to 5pm to knock off. Business owners aren't evil. They support a lot of people...Until people get greedy. In short, if I can't make money operating my business, what's the point of mortgaging everything I own on it?

"W" 11-16-2012 09:58 AM

Union is nothing more than unorginzed work.... Greedy

Don't like boss or pay.. Strike !!

Now you have 18k out of a job and 100% unions falut

"W" 11-16-2012 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jdm4x43732 (Post 517589)
Union = Salty Cajun Taboo.............
Unions gonna close the thread..............

truth hurts !!! But can't hide facts

ckinchen 11-16-2012 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt G (Post 517586)
I saw this this morning and was waiting to see a thread on here. I am freaking tired of people's "business and rich people are evil" crap! They give you a job and a means to support your family. What else do you want them to give you?! My boss probably makes 4 times what I do, but he worked to get to the top. He deserves it!! When I see him everyday, I don't scream at him to give me more, I thank him for what he as already given me.

Why not make a few concessions, keep your job, and let the company become financially sound again. I promise when they would get back on the right path, they would recognize what their employees did for them and pay it forward.

Good luck trying to find a job with 18,000 more unemployed people. And not to mention the fact that your name would be associated with the Union that killed an American icon.

Well said.

Top Dawg 11-16-2012 10:08 AM

But but but Obama promised to save the unions...

SULPHITE 11-16-2012 10:14 AM

read into this a little hostess didn't exactly run the business very well...not backing unions here but some blames goes to management.

jdm4x43732 11-16-2012 10:45 AM

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Anyone else watch Zombie Land? The end is near, double tap and check the back seat gentlemen.

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2ndamendment 11-16-2012 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 517592)
This!!!^^^^ What many 99%'s and, sometimes unions fail to realize is that when their day is done on the job, they go home and don't worry about P&L statements, whether or not the business ins premiums spike or, if the light bill will get paid. Most owners take a huge risk by becoming an owner...It's called everything they own! I think, for sticking your neck out there on the line, you should be rewarded more than the guy who comes in at 8am already asking if it's close enough to 5pm to knock off. Business owners aren't evil. They support a lot of people...Until people get greedy. In short, if I can't make money operating my business, what's the point of mortgaging everything I own on it?


Well Said Southern....you speak from experience.

PBJ 11-16-2012 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt G (Post 517586)
Why not make a few concessions, keep your job, and let the company become financially sound again. I promise when they would get back on the right path, they would recognize what their employees did for them and pay it forward.

In 2008 when the stock market crashed our company did not give us our yearly raise because they did not know how bad the recession would be. Everybody understood the situation and nobody had problems with it (we are non-union). Since the recovery of the economy and the fall out of natural gas prices, our company is making record quarterly profits and we never got that yearly raise we missed.......

mcjaredsandwich 11-16-2012 12:05 PM

Twinkie Bailout!!!

Lake Chuck Duck 11-16-2012 12:13 PM

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...x/30323665.jpg

2ndamendment 11-16-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lake chuck duck (Post 517677)



you did not build that twinkie

SULPHITE 11-16-2012 12:16 PM

with the legalization of mary jane...hostess was poised for a stellar increase in units sold!!!

Big Flounder 11-16-2012 12:38 PM

I guess the union is not going to start harvesting the marry jane!

"W" 11-16-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SULPHITE (Post 517684)
with the legalization of mary jane...hostess was poised for a stellar increase in units sold!!!

LMAO ...

Purple Back 11-16-2012 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBJ (Post 517656)
In 2008 when the stock market crashed our company did not give us our yearly raise because they did not know how bad the recession would be. Everybody understood the situation and nobody had problems with it (we are non-union). Since the recovery of the economy and the fall out of natural gas prices, our company is making record quarterly profits and we never got that yearly raise we missed.......

Westlake?

Bass2222 11-16-2012 01:24 PM

People don't realize that the rich have to make money for u to make money.
Rich making money=normal people making money
Rich not making money=normal people definately not making money

PUREBAY2200 11-16-2012 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SULPHITE (Post 517684)
with the legalization of mary jane...hostess was poised for a stellar increase in units sold!!!

Lmao

I think the snack food companies had a hand in getting "mean green" legal..... It's only a matter of time until its sold like beer, cigars & dip.

Spunt Drag 11-16-2012 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBJ (Post 517656)
In 2008 when the stock market crashed our company did not give us our yearly raise because they did not know how bad the recession would be. Everybody understood the situation and nobody had problems with it (we are non-union). Since the recovery of the economy and the fall out of natural gas prices, our company is making record quarterly profits and we never got that yearly raise we missed.......

Noooooooo! Big business would never be greedy!

PBJ 11-16-2012 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple Back (Post 517727)
Westlake?

Yup!

RickLafayette 11-16-2012 04:42 PM

Looks like Moochelle Obama was behind this high calorie diabolical coup.

T-TOP 11-16-2012 04:50 PM

W your Comprehension is as bad as your grammar!! Read your article a few more times, see if you can fully understand what you posted??? Dumb ***!

"W" 11-16-2012 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by T-TOP (Post 517818)
W your Comprehension is as bad as your grammar!! Read your article a few more times, see if you can fully understand what you posted??? Dumb ***!


Union Killed 18,500 Jobs

Twinkies now made in China


Unions Killing jobs daily :D:D


U MAD

"W" 11-16-2012 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by T-TOP (Post 517818)
W your Comprehension is as bad as your grammar!! Read your article a few more times, see if you can fully understand what you posted??? Dumb ***!


All I need to read FYI

Hostess said a strike by members of the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union that began last week had crippled its ability to produce and deliver products at several facilities, and it had no choice but to give up its effort to emerge intact from bankruptcy court.

T-TOP 11-16-2012 05:51 PM

Mad??? Just making a suggestion to you... Obvious you don't fully understand what has happen to hostess... And you have ZERO knowledge of these unions you try and insult... You are a funny little fellow

"W" 11-16-2012 05:52 PM

Are American Unions Increasing Poverty Rates?

American unions are a major cause of unemployment in the U.S. and they have greatly increased the number of children and families living in poverty by stunting the U.S economy.
In the Concise Encyclopedia of Economics, President Obama’s own former economic advisor Lawrence H. Summers said, “Another cause of long-term unemployment is unionization. High union wages that exceed the competitive market rate are likely to cause job losses in the unionized sector of the economy.”
There are reasons other than relatively inflated union workers’ wages and benefits causing an undeniable increase of outsourcing and overseas placement of production facilities from this country – for example high taxes and government overregulation. However, the AFL–CIO, national trade union center, the largest federation of unions in the United States, and other large unions, are major culprits.
While American steel companies, automobile production and other traditional industries continue to downsize and increasingly outsource production of components, unionized Green companies like Solyndra are failing within months of receiving massive, low-interest loans from the federal government that amount to taxpayer-funded union slush funds. Solyndra was touted as a successful Green company by President Obama months before the company went belly-up and left taxpayers to pay the company’s half-billion-dollar government-backed loan. Solyndra claimed it could not compete with foreign companies but where the government money went is the subject of an ongoing FBI investigation.
In the U.S., unionized workers are on average paid much higher wages than non-union workers and generally receive superior benefits and pensions. The result of such artificial wage inflation through union negotiations, strikes, political campaign donations and sick-outs is that American companies lose the ability to compete with foreign companies. The relentless phenomenon of economically downsizing America is no longer a 600-pound gorilla that voters can simply ignore. American companies are moving entire operations overseas and outsourcing jobs to foreign companies leaving more and more union workers and non-union employees standing in the unemployment line or permanently unemployed. Many recent polls indicate that Americans’ patience and empathy for union strikes and protests are wearing thin.
States like California are choosing Chinese companies to supply major U.S. infrastructure because unionized American companies can’t compete. For example, over $6 billion of a $7.2 billion contract to rebuild the Oakland –to-San Francisco bridge was awarded to the Chinese because unionized American companies could not successfully compete. The massive steel work for the bridge was built and assembled in China and shipped to California on Chinese vessels while American unionized companies sat on their hands. Americans were relegated to assembling and paving the complex new bridge.
If unions remain strong, expand and continue to demand inflated wages and benefits for union bosses and their workers, an ever-more globalized economy will continue shrinking the share of jobs available to unionized workers and other Americans.
The results will include permanently higher unemployment, soaring government deficits, double-dip recessions and further increases in American poverty rates. The situation will surely become more severe for the U.S. and most of Europe as more developing nations offering the same products for less enter a global economy in mass.
Unionization is the 600-pound gorilla in the unemployment line and it doesn’t discriminate between union workers, non-union workers or small businesses.

"W" 11-16-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by T-TOP (Post 517828)
Mad??? Just making a suggestion to you... Obvious you don't fully understand what has happen to hostess... And you have ZERO knowledge of these unions you try and insult... You are a funny little fellow


I have 100% knowledge of it....... Unions killed 18,500 jobs

read my above ^^^^^

Before 2020 Unions here in LA will be gone or bankrupt

T-TOP 11-16-2012 06:00 PM

Who wrote that??? You are a simple minded little man..... You should stick to things you atleast know a little about "fishing" or something..

T-TOP 11-16-2012 06:02 PM

You been sand bagging that article waiting on this opportunity to use it???

"W" 11-16-2012 06:04 PM

Hoss you don't have to cover up for Unions .. Job loss by union workers is at all time highs

That is facts...

T-TOP 11-16-2012 06:06 PM

Facts from who??? Where do find these facts?? Internet??? Oh wait they can't put anything on Internet that's not true...

T-TOP 11-16-2012 06:09 PM

W you have no experience, knowledge, say so, a union vote, or anything else that qualifies you to make an attempt at talking about any union facts. It's not your fault... It's just the facts....

"W" 11-16-2012 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by T-TOP (Post 517834)
Facts from who??? Where do find these facts?? Internet??? Oh wait they can't put anything on Internet that's not true...

That would be the department of labor and Unmeploymemt

You can find your loss Union Jobs there

Also Unions killed Detroit , but I guess you will argue that right??

T-TOP 11-16-2012 06:24 PM

Bad business And bad contracts... Not just unions.... And our unions here are not bad for business and will not be out of business in 2020

"W" 11-16-2012 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-TOP (Post 517842)
Bad business And bad contracts... Not just unions.... And our unions here are not bad for business and will not be out of business in 2020

Ask your self ... What do you make at your plant? Can China make it??

With Obama locked in for 4 more years.... I would be concerned and I'm even worried about the oil industry

Not so much my profession because I'm here until oil and gas don't flow .

But drilling will take s big hit in 4 years

T-TOP 11-16-2012 06:53 PM

I make gasoline and diesel, work at an oil refinery that's been fueling this area for almost 70 years

all star rod 11-16-2012 06:59 PM

DoubleU knows so much about Unions......he even knows where Jimmy Hofa is buried....LOL

southern151 11-16-2012 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 517855)
DoubleU knows so much about Unions......he even knows where Jimmy Hofa is buried....LOL

He is the authority on THE authority...Just ask him!:rotfl:

southern151 11-16-2012 07:03 PM

Now, quit bickering like a couple of school girls and go check the Christmas thread! We need your help!

"W" 11-16-2012 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by T-TOP (Post 517853)
I make gasoline and diesel, work at an oil refinery that's been fueling this area for almost 70 years

Hostess been making Twinkies for 82 years

See how that's going ??

Big Flounder 11-16-2012 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 517851)
Ask your self ... What do you make at your plant? Can China make it??

With Obama locked in for 4 more years.... I would be concerned and I'm even worried about the oil industry

Not so much my profession because I'm here until oil and gas don't flow .

But drilling will take s big hit in 4 years

The plant I work in had a Chinese brother and sister walk in and write a check for 77 million for the place. Every vessel, pipe, steel, flange, valve, and everything else comes from china!

Hebert 11-16-2012 07:34 PM

Twinkies and Hostesses other brands will never go away..even if the company shuts down...the company will sell these brands off and some other company will make them.


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