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:pissed::pissed:My wifes cousin is the charter boat captain in the yellow shirt they compltetly removed his discussion.

http://www.local15tv.com/mostpopular...8fuT40W_Q.cspx

A damn shame!!!!

Thats disgusting!

That's one of them issues cca should be involved in but they to worried about their big banquets and fishing tournaments.

if you go on youtube type in local15 tv they have a longer version they edited a whole lot and no one can find the full version the aired the first nite. looks like someone is getting squeezed already by this video.

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brown fin

W T F

:rolleyes: Really guys?:rotfl:

How many people would actually be a member of CCA without the STAR tournament? The STAR and banquets bring in new members and the banquets RAISE money for the cause, causes just like this. This issue has just recently gone 'viral' and they are probably trying to gain all the facts they can about the situation before taking a stance. Their is so much misinformation going on over the internet that no matter what stance they take, people will get upset with them.

This issue has already ran the gauntlet of placing the blame:

Its the oil companies fault, its the feds fault (especially Obama:grinpimp:)
and now lets blame CCA, and must add that I mentioned Bobby Jindal in there too but that didn't seem to go over well.

One Fact is the Oil Companies have zero to do with it. They follow regs and allocate money to remove a platform when its done.

Don't blame the oil

oil companies can only do what the permit allows. but the oil companies could stand up to the feds and say we are not doing it that way. they can cut the pipe from the inside out without the explosion. i was in new orleans this weekend with the top from all majors and haliburton. they all said they have other ways they can do it, it is just that way is cheaper.

I actually agree with W, the oil companies are doing what they are required to do. And who wouldn't do something the cheapest way that gets the same end result = removal of the platform. There is blame being placed all over the place here and its crazy. There is a program in place for this very thing, its called Rigs to Reefs. Oil companies can donate the platforms for this. This fund has been raided by politicians in our very own state. If this had been the federal gov't that raided this fund there would be 5,000 threads about how Obama is killing all the red snapper inn order to feed crackheads on welfare or something along those lines:rotfl:. Its been headlined in many newspapers, Jindal is kinda in hot water over this, here is a link but there are many morehttp://www.wwltv.com/news/eyewitness...190320191.html

All I was thinking when saying that was I wish the CCA would stand up with the state. I haven't been a member of the CCA since 1996. That organization seems to be more about the $ then the cause.


BROWN FIN

Yeah I heard about that and I saw it on the agenda...hopefully they will be able to stop them from doing it any more. I would think the oil companies would have grounds for a suit since they are misappropriating the funds that were to be used specifically for the rigs to reefs program. An even worse scenario is that they would stop participating in the program altogether.

Agreed.



BROWN FIN

The same explosions can't occur if a sea turtle is spotted. I don't know why they are more worried about one species more than the other. Before they blow the charges they have to fly around the structure for a certian amount of time with turtle watchers in helicopters. If a turtle is spotted they have to wait X amount of time before they can set the charges off. If another turtle is spotted shut down again.

This article was from 2007...

:) Yep, hopefully something will give. I posted a couple links in the other snapper thread and saw there was a job opening for a position dealing with the rigs to reefs program. Maybe the voices have been heard and this program will keep going forward. I thought I read somewhere there was a moratorium on platform removal as of now but I could be crazy

Agree with the red, not sure about the green :grinpimp:

:rotfl:, I am not certified crazy yet:eek::grinpimp:

Snapper vs Sea turtles are no way close


Just because snapper is a game fish people think there is a storage of them???
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Snapper are like ants in the gulf and are more plentiful than almost all species in the Gulf

I live half my life offshore and see maybe 1-3 boats on weekends fishing and 1 out of 5 weekdays (maybe)

You don't see a ton of sea turtles but I have seen a lot over the years




You can not use explosives with in 10 miles of a sea turtle (I think)

I think that snapper were here along time before there were platforms so that can't be the argument to keep them, but also I think that they thrive off a platform by the ecosystem an established platform has. I know that is a contradictory statement, but what do our opinions matter in politics involved with this anyway.

i mean at least let people know when one is being blown and let them pick up the dead fish. all they are doing is feeding the damn sharks and we dont need anymore sharks.

let a game warden see you throw one back that is dead he will write you up for want and waste, but it is ok for govt.

I know of no vessel that draws 50' of water. Why doesn't the Feds allow us to P&A the wells and then "reef in place" ever one of these in water depths >80'. We can the piles 50' below the water surface and have a hell of a reef for a long time.

I always wonder the same thing

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we cant use rigs as reefs but we can use air craft carriers.

agreed!!!!!

Crazy

There are a few places like that around. Don't know how they got that way. May have been some of the storms.

Our company still has work on the books to recover platforms in water blown over from Katrina and Rita, so yes I know they are out there. My question is, why can't we just cut the legs 40-50' below the water line and put a floating bouy marking it as a reef. The trawlers would see the bouy and stay clear, so no damage to their nets, the vessels would see the aid to navigation and stay clear, and the eco system would continue to thrive.

Too simple. I know of some rigs and wrecks that are 200 ft below the water and unmarked. They are on my electronics though.

Stop the madness and destruction of habitat.
Sent 100 emails today including my member of Congress and signed both petitions.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...ogram/FLDPVfZD

http://www.change.org/petitions/stop...t-of-idle-iron

Why so few people signing these petitions? Are we just a bunch of website whiners?

DID YOU DO YOUR PART TO STOP THIS STUPIDITY? IF NOT, GET AFTER IT. MAKE SOME NOISE.

NO HABITAT = NO FISH

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Me too Capt - but around 170 ft, knife Jigs, full limits in 30 mins. Just hate to see the established habitat totally destroyed with ZERO regard for the longer term implications.

neither of your links work

Thanks Meaux, Fixed the broken links.