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Jman121799 06-09-2013 07:26 PM

Frontier 2104
 
Looking to get into a frontier 2104 with a yammy 4 stroke, powerpole, trolling motor, onboard charger, humminbird 898, amd trim tabs, for around 38-40k. What dealer would be able to come close to that and ir willing to negotiate on the price? Also who has the best service?

PaulMyers 06-09-2013 07:30 PM

Lake Area Marine for price and service.

Call Kyle @ 337-433-7019

jchief 06-09-2013 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulMyers (Post 591377)
Lake Area Marine for price and service.

Call Kyle @ 337-433-7019

Definitely give them a call.

alphaman 06-09-2013 08:29 PM

Sent u a pm...

I just bought one from them. 1 month old today.

They have the best price and standard options on the boat. And i check from Houston to bama...

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bsoileau 06-09-2013 09:30 PM

Bought one a year ago and never looked back! There price and the service is hard to beat. Kyle will take as much time as you need and will not rush you or push you in any way. If you need to take a ride in one there are a few people on here that wouldn't mind including myself!

cmdrost 06-09-2013 11:00 PM

Kyle and Lake Area are the best!

Slidellkid 06-10-2013 11:47 AM

Let me tell you this story about Lake Area Marine. I bought a trailer from them for my flat boat. When I drove it home to Deridder, I kept hearing a noise. I looked at the wheels when I got home and Lake Area had forgot to tighten the lug nuts, and the lug nut holes were now warped. Well, that sounds bad, but what impressed me is how they took ownership of their mistake. They came all the way to Deridder and picked up my trailer, fixed it and then brought it back to me. Anyone can make a mistake, it's how you take responsibility for mistakes that separates a good business from a mediocre one. I was impressed from Lake Area Marine and would buy a boat from them.....and might!

speck cc 06-11-2013 09:27 AM

what are the pros/cons of the open series 21ft... vs the meridian 21ft?

inchspinner 06-11-2013 09:32 AM

From being in both, i see the open is limited on dry storage, merid has jump seats another live well counter sunk rod storage plus up front storage....list goes on....do u have kids? Others will elaborate im sure

alphaman 06-11-2013 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by speck cc (Post 592222)
what are the pros/cons of the open series 21ft... vs the meridian 21ft?

2104 Looks way better on the inside and has a 50 gallon tank vs 43 in the 210. Also the 210 looks like an unfinished boat. Basically Roll gunnal boat with a cap.

The 2104 is probably 4-5 grand more and heavier so id say the ride has to be better..
It eats the chop no problem! And dry ride.
That is all..... :cool:
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speck cc 06-11-2013 11:35 AM

the open may be a little more economic... prob worth it to go with the meridian. and my wife hates the "spray on look" lol... thanks!

alphaman 06-11-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by speck cc (Post 592265)
the open may be a little more economic... prob worth it to go with the meridian. and my wife hates the "spray on look" lol... thanks!

I get 4 to 5 miles a gallon with my 175 suzuki. 60 miles only burned 12 gallons of has

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Natural Light Kid 06-11-2013 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by alphaman (Post 592273)
I get 4 to 5 miles a gallon with my 175 suzuki. 60 miles only burned 12 gallons of has

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What kind of top speed are you getting with that set up?

alphaman 06-11-2013 03:16 PM

54 on dash full tank two adults and gear. 51-53 gps 3500 rpm 35mph 4000 40mph

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alphaman 06-11-2013 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by alphaman (Post 592340)
54 on dash full tank two adults and gear. 51-53 gps 3500 rpm 35mph 4000 40mph

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5900-6000 rpm 54mph

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Clafleur 06-11-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by alphaman (Post 592374)
5900-6000 rpm 54mph

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Saw u passing west bound on I10 with your boat today, great looking boat and at 72 mph I didn't even see your dings

cmdrost 06-11-2013 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by speck cc (Post 592222)
what are the pros/cons of the open series 21ft... vs the meridian 21ft?

21 open series is plain jane

210 is capped version tweener model...clean decks, same storage as 2104, jump seats, etc....But it has the splatter paint floor

2104 is fully lined and clean looking

I'd put a 175 Suki or a 200 Yammy on it.

jldsc 06-11-2013 07:18 PM

I had a 21 kenner plain jane and dry storage sucks...go with the loaded model and dont look back


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alphaman 06-11-2013 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cmdrost (Post 592382)
21 open series is plain jane

210 is capped version tweener model...clean decks, same storage as 2104, jump seats, etc....But it has the splatter paint floor

2104 is fully lined and clean looking

I'd put a 175 Suki or a 200 Yammy on it.

Take a look at specs btw the in- line 4 yam 200 and suzuki 175. Compare the two.

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getonfish 06-11-2013 09:31 PM

I would recommend the 175 Suzuki all day over the 200 Yamaha unless you want to spend the money on the SHO.

I get exact same numbers on mine that Alphman posted.

alphaman 06-12-2013 06:52 AM

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Looks to me suzuki 175 is a bigger engine r has more cc. Than f200 yamaha. Idk how much of a difference in performance. But here is the spec page btw the 2

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Montauk17 06-12-2013 12:28 PM

The biggest reason suzuki has more "pep" is the gear ratio in the lower unit. Yammy has 1.86 gears suzuki has 2.50 gears.....this is a huge factor when it comes to low to mid range performance. The yamaha with the right prop should be faster,but the suzuki will have better holeshot and midrange speeds.

getonfish 06-12-2013 03:11 PM

Would weight not play a factor in this? With the 200 being a v6 it is signifcantly heavier than the v4 175. That in itself almost negates the 25hp.

Not to mention the much larger price tag of the f200 and the extra fuel economy of the 175.

meaux fishing 06-12-2013 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by getonfish (Post 592630)
Would weight not play a factor in this? With the 200 being a v6 it is signifcantly heavier than the v4 175. That in itself almost negates the 25hp.

Not to mention the much larger price tag of the f200 and the extra fuel economy of the 175.

The 200 is a straight 4 actually but it does weigh more.

I have a 250 Suzuki on my 24 triton and Pox has a 250 yammy on his. My boat is faster...

SGib 06-12-2013 03:34 PM

What is the fuel mileage difference between the zuk and the zuk ss? I really like how quite they are.

cmdrost 06-12-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by getonfish (Post 592454)
I would recommend the 175 Suzuki all day over the 200 Yamaha unless you want to spend the money on the SHO.

I get exact same numbers on mine that Alphman posted.

Yeah I meant SHo 200 or Suz 175

I know a couple guys w the SHO. Speed is rpm. Boat tops out around 62.

inchspinner 06-12-2013 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cmdrost (Post 592741)
Yeah I meant SHo 200 or Suz 175

I know a couple guys w the SHO. Speed is rpm. Boat tops out around 62.

Is 8-10mph worth 6k-7k more than the suz 175....id say no jmo.....Chas do the guys like those 200 SHOs?

Montauk17 06-12-2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by inchspinner (Post 592765)
Is 8-10mph worth 6k-7k more than the suz 175....id say no jmo.....Chas do the guys like those 200 SHOs?

200 SHO is the same motor as the 225 and 250....only thing different is the computer.

inchspinner 06-12-2013 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Montauk17 (Post 592767)
200 SHO is the same motor as the 225 and 250....only thing different is the computer.

Im saying the 200 SHOs on the frontiers? My bad

Montauk17 06-12-2013 10:22 PM

Im sure it would be a good match....always best to max the hp rating on a boat.

fishinpox 06-12-2013 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 592644)
The 200 is a straight 4 actually but it does weigh more.

I have a 250 Suzuki on my 24 triton and Pox has a 250 yammy on his. My boat is faster...

Correct.... But you blow men soooooo I win











Lmao!!!

tgsx750f2000 06-12-2013 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 592799)
Correct.... But you blow men soooooo I win











Lmao!!!

Now that's funny right there, I don't care who you are!

meaux fishing 06-12-2013 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 592799)
Correct.... But you blow men soooooo I win











Lmao!!!

Hahahaha... At least I don't wear periwinkle zip up fishing shirts and Easter egg colored shorts...LOL!!!

SuperDave 06-13-2013 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by inchspinner (Post 592765)
Is 8-10mph worth 6k-7k more than the suz 175....id say no jmo.....Chas do the guys like those 200 SHOs?

I wonder what the cruise speed is at 4000 rpm and the MPG.

alphaman 06-13-2013 07:30 AM

With my 2 pennies

Id say btw 40-45 and the gas milage would be about 4 4.5 r less bc of the weight. The 200 sho is 505lbs thats alot of weight on the back of the frontier.

The suz 175 is 474lbs and getting 4.5-8 crusing

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SuperDave 06-13-2013 08:30 AM

45@4000 getting 4.5mpg would be awesome!

SuperDave 06-13-2013 08:45 AM

http://www.suzukimarine.com/Product%...0Bay%20DF175TX

http://www.yamahaoutboards.com/sites...-04-18_BAY.pdf

Not a SHO but still something to compare the Zuk.

alphaman 06-13-2013 08:50 AM

I call a dealer in alb. 200 sho on a 2104
At 3000 rpm. 30mph 6.32 gph and 4.6 mph.

At 4000 rpm 40mph 11.9 mpg and 3.4 gph.

Wot 2.4 gph

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SGib 06-13-2013 08:53 AM

6mpg? That's awesome fuel economy.

Kyle71 06-13-2013 09:03 AM

In my opinion, the 175 Suzuki is the perfect match for the 2104 Frontier when considering price, speed, fuel efficiency, weight all in one. If you have a need for speed then go with the 200 SHO, this motor is very strong but also a good chunk of change more.

meaux fishing 06-13-2013 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by alphaman (Post 592875)
I call a dealer in alb. 200 sho on a 2104
At 3000 rpm. 30mph 6.32 gph and 4.6 mph.

At 4000 rpm 40mph 11.9 mpg and 3.4 gph.

Wot 2.4 gph

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:confused::confused::confused:

Im so confused;)

cduhon 06-13-2013 10:22 AM

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:confused::confused::confused:

Im so confused;)

X2

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alphaman 06-13-2013 10:25 AM

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:confused::confused::confused:

Im so confused;)

He sent this and this isnt a frontier boat that the numbers r on. Looks like a pathfinder... O well. I love my 175.

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SuperDave 06-24-2013 08:54 AM

Has anyone put a t-top or k-top on a Frontier?

inchspinner 06-24-2013 09:48 AM

Getonfish has a bimini on his...

SuperDave 06-24-2013 10:09 AM

Yeah, I just don't know if I like the Bimini tops that much. I need to ask him for some pictures.

alphaman 06-24-2013 10:31 AM

Im thinking about putting a bimini top on my boat.

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SuperDave 06-24-2013 11:53 AM

The thing I don't care for about the Bimini top is when they are stowed they take up space on the rear deck and you have to pass the fishing pole around the straps and poles if you want to walk to the rear of the boat if you have a fish on.

I'd like to have a T top but not a massive one. Just enough cover to get some shade on those super hot days.

jlincecum 06-24-2013 12:02 PM

also interested in other ideas for shade. wife wants some on the boat for family days but i want it removable for the rest of the time. no t-top here

alphaman 06-24-2013 12:02 PM

Thats exactly y im undecided. I dont think ill be able to get to my rear storage compartments..and 650 is alot for a bimini top.

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