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specknation 06-28-2013 09:25 PM

Haynie vs. Blackjack
 
A buddy of mine just got the green light to buy a new bay boat. He has priced many different bay boats, he has narrow it down to the Blackjack 22 or the Haynie 23 Big Foot. He is not a member on here and I have already given him my humble opinion. What boat do you all prefer he will be fishing in big bays mostly.

BloodKnot 06-28-2013 09:28 PM

Been in both boats. At the end of the day he cannot go wrong. Both are great boats. I prefer the Haynie a little more. It gets out of the hole a little better. I like how it handles a little more. But it is splitting hairs.

mriguy 06-28-2013 09:29 PM

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Why the 23 instead of the 24 HO?Attachment 52494
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specknation 06-28-2013 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mriguy (Post 599402)
Why the 23 instead of the 24 HO?Attachment 52494
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He said he liked the lines of the 23 better than the 24.

calcutta37 06-28-2013 09:51 PM

He needs the 24 HO

PaulMyers 06-28-2013 09:57 PM

BlackJack 224

specknation 06-28-2013 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calcutta37 (Post 599411)
He needs the 24 HO

Other than the specs what is the difference between the 23 and the 24 HO?

mriguy 06-28-2013 09:59 PM

Isnt the Bigfoot a tunnel hull?

The 23LS is badazz

calcutta37 06-28-2013 10:01 PM

Never seen the 23 big foot. Nobody that I know of has one. If he want to ride in the 24 HO send me a pm and we can hook up before I go back offshore

inchspinner 06-28-2013 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulMyers (Post 599414)
BlackJack 224

X2

T-TOP 06-28-2013 10:02 PM

Don't think you can compare a haynie to a black jack. 2 different class boats, black jack, is In a different class. Black jack all the way.

specknation 06-28-2013 10:03 PM

23 big foot is not a tunnel

mriguy 06-28-2013 10:06 PM

Au contraire, according to the Haynie website it is

specknation 06-28-2013 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mriguy (Post 599422)
Au contraire, according to the Haynie website it is

Ok I didn't think he wanted a tunnel?

specknation 06-28-2013 10:13 PM

He just texted me he meant the 24 HO not the 23 sorry guys.

PUREBAY2200 06-28-2013 10:16 PM

Blackjack 55-60k "full boat" , top of line finish & hardware "no wood"

Haynie 45-55k 3/4 boat , halfazz finish & hardware , but can enter in the "madisonville wooden boat fest"

bjhooper82 06-28-2013 11:32 PM

You really can't go wrong either way. Post up some pics of whatever he gets. We love boat porn!!

Bdub 06-29-2013 12:15 AM

Spend the extra money for the blackjack. There is no reason to pay that much money for a boat with wood in it unless planning to replace in a few years..(one reason why I think a lot of guides use them). The blackjack has a superior fit and finish and I believe has more options for bringing family aboard. I've not ridden in a blackjack but I have been in a Haynie. The boat is a beast, but the fit and finish is sub par for a boat in that price range...Look at all the small details. I stepped on a hatch lid and heard fiberglass cracking due to the hatches being installed unlevel. Things like that work my nerves..

specknation 06-29-2013 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bdub (Post 599444)
Spend the extra money for the blackjack. There is no reason to pay that much money for a boat with wood in it unless planning to replace in a few years..(one reason why I think a lot of guides use them). The blackjack has a superior fit and finish and I believe has more options for bringing family aboard. I've not ridden in a blackjack but I have been in a Haynie. The boat is a beast, but the fit and finish is sub par for a boat in that price range...Look at all the small details. I stepped on a hatch lid and heard fiberglass cracking due to the hatches being installed unlevel. Things like that work my nerves..

Well said

Ducktrickster 06-29-2013 04:14 AM

I just went through this same process and went with the blackjack. My kids would be falling out of that haynie.

jldsc 06-29-2013 05:45 AM

None of you guys have a clue when you mention wood in boats...I would like to see first hand yalls experience with boats in general...Some of the best boats ever made consist of "MARINE GRADE WOOD" yall need to get off yalls kick of "doesnt have wood in it"...the only boats ive seen come apart were composite boats...and the ones with wood were from people not taking care of them and drilling holes and such causing them to rot prematurely


A truly honest opinion both are great boats...Bill makes great boats and besides what others say I dare anyone to say my Haynie doesnt have the fit and finish of another manufacture...thats just my 2c!


Sent From an Apple Tree.

jldsc 06-29-2013 05:52 AM

Yall just as soon get the popcorn and put this one in the gill net!! n


Sent From an Apple Tree.

"W" 06-29-2013 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bdub (Post 599444)
Spend the extra money for the blackjack. There is no reason to pay that much money for a boat with wood in it unless planning to replace in a few years..(one reason why I think a lot of guides use them). The blackjack has a superior fit and finish and I believe has more options for bringing family aboard. I've not ridden in a blackjack but I have been in a Haynie. The boat is a beast, but the fit and finish is sub par for a boat in that price range...Look at all the small details. I stepped on a hatch lid and heard fiberglass cracking due to the hatches being installed unlevel. Things like that work my nerves..

Haynie has a life time warranty on its hull ...and its custom so you put the hatches you want


Why do you think its the #1 guide boat on big lake??? Because its a fishing machine!! Guides change them out because they get great deals on Haynie guide program... its all about the warranty

And they can sale the boat and make money after using it for a year or two and keep same note on a brand new boat with new warranty

Black Jack is a great boat but not fishing friendly deck layout....

Goooh 06-29-2013 07:03 AM

What were boats made of before metal and glass?

Pretty sure Columbus didn't sail the world in an wood free boat.

"W" 06-29-2013 07:08 AM

Hayine Boats
BUILT ONE AT A TIME
All Haynie's are built with no rot boat panel and a fiberglass stringer system. Each boat is built one at a time and all glass is hand laid. All boats are glassed inside and out and finished with gel coat even in the boxes and rig box.

No short cuts are taken when each boat is finished out and all center consoles are glassed in (no screws to come loose over time). Each console can be raised to your wants and needs from 2" to 4" or even more if you want. Once the flooring is installed each boat is filled front to rear by injection with close cell foam for flotation....

Built to last!

Every inch of the boat is fiber-glassed.

There is no exposed wood. The fiber-glassing extends the entire length of each boat.

The entire boat is injected with marine foam and all injection points sealed.
Foam injection is done for superior deck strength and floatation.

http://www.hayniebayboats.com/Boat_Construction.shtml

meaux fishing 06-29-2013 07:11 AM

I think both are great boats. The Haynie is a pure fishing boat. The blackjack is more comfortable and more aesthetically pleasing. It's like comparing going fishing in Venice to Grand Isle with the Haynie being Venice. The fishing is great in both just one is prettier and more tourist friendly then the other

meaux fishing 06-29-2013 07:14 AM

About the wood thing there are 40-year-old Boston Whalers still out there fishing. As long as the fiberglass work is done well you have nothing to worry about with wood in boats

BayBolt23 06-29-2013 08:01 AM

Been running a HO for 2 1/2 years now have really enjoyed it! Where else will u get another bay boat with a 8 foot front deck?!?!! The HO is very easy to trailer,takes a good chop and quick on the water in the chop! Not downing the BJ it is a fine azz boat but I really like how you can build the top cap of the Haynie the way you want it!

spoony 06-29-2013 08:03 AM

Has anyone ever heard of termites in a boat? I have. And they eat wood only.

"W" 06-29-2013 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by spoony (Post 599469)
Has anyone ever heard of termites in a boat? I have. And they eat wood only.


you show me a Haynie that ever had Termites...:rolleyes::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

spoony 06-29-2013 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 599471)
you show me a Haynie that ever had Termites...:rolleyes::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Patience grasshopper patience.

I would rather go with no possibility of that disaster

noodle creek 06-29-2013 08:22 AM

Shearwaters have no wood, but several have had their transoms fall off. Haven't heard of that happening on a haynie yet.

swt70611 06-29-2013 08:23 AM

Apples and oranges comparison. I love my blackjack but considered a Haynie when buying. I felt the blackjack was a better fit for a family and weekend warrior. If I used a boat to fish only and very often I'd have leaned to the Haynie. The Haynies finish is better suited for hi use. It's not as clean of a finish as the blackjack. Not even close so if it isn't perfectly clean you'd never no. As far wood, most 3+ million dollar yachts are wood.

"W" 06-29-2013 08:33 AM

:rotfl::rotfl:
Quote:

Originally Posted by spoony (Post 599473)
Patience grasshopper patience.

I would rather go with no possibility of that disaster

LIFETIME Warrenty on HULL!!!!!!


LMAO Dem sum bad azz TerMITES to crew up fiberglass 1st...:rotfl::rotfl:

GTFO of here with that :shaking:

http://www.farkriffic.com/gif02/in_fatguypoolbreak.gif

jchief 06-29-2013 09:06 AM

I have been in both boats.

the Haynie is a narrower hull and a little less "stable" fishing platform. It leans more than a Blackjack will. The Blackjack has a "Carolina" flare hull and should be a drier ride in the slop. If he is planning on going offshore at all, the Blackjack has higher sides.

I have not been in a Haynie in rough water, but my Blackjack would take some very rough water well.

bayouchub 06-29-2013 09:08 AM

You may want to tell him to throw a 22 alweld in the mix. Ive heard good things.

meaux fishing 06-29-2013 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noodle creek (Post 599475)
Shearwaters have no wood, but several have had their transoms fall off. Haven't heard of that happening on a haynie yet.

Yeah but shearwaters are crap...

specknation 06-29-2013 09:24 AM

Thanks for the the post, my buddy is not worried that much about the wood in the Haynie just the hardware and rigging of the boat is a concern for him. He is leaning toward the Blackjack because the prices of the two boats are real close.

"W" 06-29-2013 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayouchub (Post 599480)
You may want to tell him to throw a 22 alweld in the mix. Ive heard good things.

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T-TOP 06-29-2013 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by specknation (Post 599485)
Thanks for the the post, my buddy is not worried that much about the wood in the Haynie just the hardware and rigging of the boat is a concern for him. He is leaning toward the Blackjack because the prices of the two boats are real close.

If he is looking to spend $60,000. Buy a ranger, problem solved!! Lol

specknation 06-29-2013 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-TOP (Post 599489)
If he is looking to spend $60,000. Buy a ranger, problem solved!! Lol

I agree the Ranger 2310 is a fine boat.

inchspinner 06-29-2013 09:57 AM

Been in both boats being considered, both are nice, as said the HO is moreless a GUIDE BOAT, wheres as the BLACKJACK is an "all-around" fishing/family boat, many guides have used both boats, the HO is more customizable haha...you also have to look at service for "boat" if needed....ones in Lake Charles and ones in Port Aransas Tx...Cant go wrong with either and the buyer is the only one to make that decision based on his needs for his new rig....good luck and post up some pics of his new rig.

fishinpox 06-29-2013 11:01 AM

Just buy a triton 249ltspro

meaux fishing 06-29-2013 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by specknation (Post 599491)
I agree the Ranger 2310 is a fine boat.

I looked at the rangers. I like the layout of my 24 triton better

PUREBAY2200 06-29-2013 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayouchub (Post 599480)
You may want to tell him to throw a 22 alweld in the mix. Ive heard good things.

I herd all you need is a 90 hp to power it.... Save a lot of money with this route.

PUREBAY2200 06-29-2013 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 599509)
Just buy a triton 249ltspro

That a new model??
249ltspro??

Natural Light Kid 06-29-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 599459)
Haynie has a life time warranty on its hull ...and its custom so you put the hatches you want


Why do you think its the #1 guide boat on big lake??? Because its a fishing machine!! Guides change them out because they get great deals on Haynie guide program... its all about the warranty

And they can sale the boat and make money after using it for a year or two and keep same note on a brand new boat with new warranty

Black Jack is a great boat but not fishing friendly deck layout....


Do you have anything to support your statement that its the #1 guide boat on big lake? Do more guides use them than any other boat? Do the guides that use them rate them higher than other boats? Did you completely pull this out of your azz?

PUREBAY2200 06-29-2013 11:43 AM

^^^^^^^
Lmao

This reply will b great

PUREBAY2200 06-29-2013 11:44 AM

"The W rule"

If W uses, buys , or creates something it is the best available and all other things are trash.

"W" 06-29-2013 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Natural Light Kid (Post 599515)
Do you have anything to support your statement that its the #1 guide boat on big lake? Do more guides use them than any other boat? Do the guides that use them rate them higher than other boats? Did you completely pull this out of your azz?

Yes i would say there are more Guides in Haynie boats than any other brand boat

The two biggest are HBG (runs most all Haynie) Big Lake Guide Service ( runs all Haynie & 1 L&B)

Most of the one or two boat services are running Haynies....So yes I i would say More Haynie Guide boats than any other one brand

And if you ever go on the water you would know this


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