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Spunt Drag 07-02-2013 09:17 PM

Tripletail Size and Creel limit changes
 
The LDWF Commission Meeting was held today in Baton Rouge.

The following items were discussed:

1. Roll Call

2. Approval of Minutes of June 6, 2013

3. Commission Special Announcements/Personal Privilege

4. To Hear Enforcement & Aviation Reports/June

5. To Consider Notice of Intent Scenic River Rules and Regulations

6. To Consider Notice of Intent 2014 Wild Turkey Season Dates, Rules and Regulations

7. To Consider a Declaration of Emergency for Early Migratory Game Birds and Special Teal Season

8. To Hear General Notice of 2013-2014 Waterfowl Season Tentative Dates

9. To Discuss Establishing Recreational and Commercial Size and Creel Limits on Tripletail

10. Set November 2013 Meeting Date

11. Receive Public Comments

I find this to be BS. I remember a lengthy thread about this a couple years ago and was wondering if people still felt the same way?

Top Dawg 07-02-2013 09:40 PM

That's what you got

Chip Landry 07-02-2013 09:45 PM

So I'm gathering it was just a meeting of the minds and nothing was set yet..

ckinchen 07-02-2013 09:49 PM

I heard the number that is on the table right now is three.

"W" 07-02-2013 10:00 PM

Tried already BIG FAIL

Your talking about a fish that is seasonal and is targeted very few days a year

Spunt Drag 07-02-2013 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chip Landry (Post 601089)
So I'm gathering it was just a meeting of the minds and nothing was set yet..

Doesn't matter, there's no biological evidence to support a limit of any kind. They just making up the frickin rules as they go? Reminds of 15 trout per person.

Top Dawg 07-02-2013 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ckinchen (Post 601091)
I heard the number that is on the table right now is three.

That's absurd!

"W" 07-02-2013 10:26 PM

Year to date....this whole site has not boated 100 3tail yet

bgizzle 07-02-2013 10:49 PM

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Top Dawg 07-02-2013 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 601110)
Year to date....this whole site has not boated 100 3tail yet

But that right there is gonna be their argument I guarantee. "We'll people don't catch many anyways. Lets drop the limit to 3". Ex: mottled duck limit.

Chip Landry 07-02-2013 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bgizzle (Post 601124)
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Me too!!

Chip Landry 07-02-2013 11:05 PM

Wait till August, September and October and we'll be lightin em up!!

bgizzle 07-02-2013 11:07 PM

Yep I gotta August spot they usually thick thick

Montauk17 07-02-2013 11:07 PM

I can honestly say I never caught one

speck-chaser 07-02-2013 11:17 PM

me eiver

Jadams 07-03-2013 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by "W" (Post 601110)
Year to date....this whole site has not boated 100 3tail yet

Wrong buddy 104 triple tail me and boat driver!

Jadams 07-03-2013 04:07 AM

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Jadams 07-03-2013 04:14 AM

104 2nd day

Feesherman 07-03-2013 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Spunt Drag (Post 601101)
Doesn't matter, there's no biological evidence to support a limit of any kind. They just making up the frickin rules as they go? Reminds of 15 trout per person.

True there is no biological evidence. Perhaps their discussion at the meeting will include the study they will conduct to see if a limit is warranted. Perhaps not. But right now everyone is just assuming that they will hit us with a limit with no basis.

BROWN FIN 07-03-2013 06:25 AM

We are talking about the state not NOAA, sea grant , nmfs or gomfmc witch figured the federal limits and obviously don't know what they are doing. Pretty sure they are just taking a look. It might be a good thing. The feds could close them down at anytime. The state is prob getting some info together to have some ammo for the Feds. Look at what has happened to Aj, snapper,redfish, gags, and triggerfish.


BROWN FIN

Top Dawg 07-03-2013 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BROWN FIN (Post 601176)
We are talking about the state not NOAA, sea grant , nmfs or gomfmc witch figured the federal limits and obviously don't know what they are doing. Pretty sure they are just taking a look. It might be a good thing. The feds could close them down at anytime. The state is prob getting some info together to have some ammo for the Feds. Look at what has happened to Aj, snapper,redfish, gags, and triggerfish.


BROWN FIN

Understood. But when the government(of any level) gets involved its a crap shoot.

biggun 07-03-2013 06:55 AM

Guys.. Will Drost, from L. C. is the newest commission member.. I heard he was going to really push this creel and size limit for trips...

Call your commission members. Let them know your feelings... They are going to use the studies by a biologist from Miss. who has done extensive work on Trips.

I'm of the opinion "SHOW ME THE SCIENCE"..

Spunt Drag 07-03-2013 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by biggun (Post 601184)
Guys.. Will Drost, from L. C. is the newest commission member.. I heard he was going to really push this creel and size limit for trips...

Call your commission members. Let them know your feelings... They are going to use the studies by a biologist from Miss. who has done extensive work on Trips.

I'm of the opinion "SHOW ME THE SCIENCE"..

That's what you got! Same dumba$$ who reduced the trout limit wit no science.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feesherman (Post 601163)
True there is no biological evidence. Perhaps their discussion at the meeting will include the study they will conduct to see if a limit is warranted. Perhaps not. But right now everyone is just assuming that they will hit us with a limit with no basis.

If there's no biological evidence to support changes, how can a limit be warranted?

And all these pics of 100's of 3tails but no reports posted??? I find that odd.

Feesherman 07-03-2013 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunt Drag (Post 601187)
That's what you got! Same dumba$$ who reduced the trout limit wit no science.



If there's no biological evidence to support changes, how can a limit be warranted?

That's what I'm saying.

"W" 07-03-2013 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggun (Post 601184)
Guys.. Will Drost, from L. C. is the newest commission member.. I heard he was going to really push this creel and size limit for trips...

Call your commission members. Let them know your feelings... They are going to use the studies by a biologist from Miss. who has done extensive work on Trips.

I'm of the opinion "SHOW ME THE SCIENCE"..

well that explains it all


He is the one who 1st pushed the 3tail limit a few years ago....

And he is one of the main ones who wanted big lake a "Trophy Lake" and pushed for a 15 trout limit with Zero Zero science and against all biologists

"W" 07-03-2013 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jadams (Post 601154)
Wrong buddy 104 triple tail me and boat driver!

I said Year to Date...from Jan to july

That was last year or year before

flounder_smacker 07-03-2013 08:17 AM

I say close triple tail season down. Leave those poor fishies alone. They don't even taste good. Sailcat taste better.

BROWN FIN 07-03-2013 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggun (Post 601184)
Guys.. Will Drost, from L. C. is the newest commission member.. I heard he was going to really push this creel and size limit for trips...

Call your commission members. Let them know your feelings... They are going to use the studies by a biologist from Miss. who has done extensive work on Trips.

I'm of the opinion "SHOW ME THE SCIENCE"..

Didn't realize he was involved. Retract my previous statement!


BROWN FIN

Spunt Drag 07-03-2013 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BROWN FIN (Post 601228)
Didn't realize he was involved. Retract my previous statement!


BROWN FIN

Hahahaha

RAGINJROB 07-03-2013 08:35 AM

Where do you normally catch triple tail? Been wanting to try to target them out of my kayak off the beach maybe? Is this doable or they further offshore?

Any help appreciated

"W" 07-03-2013 08:41 AM

Will Drost has simple basic science!

He is a big trout wade fisherman who just enjoys catching big trout and CPR...
He also has no problem with smaller limits because he lives on the lake with a wharf with lights, so anytime he wants trout to eat,he can turn a light on and get a mess of fish.

He is a good person but he is a liberal as they get when it comes to conservation!

We should of never had a 15 trout limit Never ....and when Biologist said no...he still pushed for it!

Also i have spoke with several WLF biologist and the slot of two over 25 or 24 ( what ever it is) is the dumbest of all, Trout are not bass!

I have been stopped several times and had big trout in the icechest and never asked about the two over what ever...No one cares about that and I dont think anyone even thinks about ot or follows it..

You think a guide is going to measure trout that big lmao

Spunt Drag 07-03-2013 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAGINJROB (Post 601235)
Where do you normally catch triple tail? Been wanting to try to target them out of my kayak off the beach maybe? Is this doable or they further offshore?

Any help appreciated

They are endangered. Less than 50 are left in the wild from poachers hunting them for their ivory fins.

Seriously they stay further offshore. They do come in when the salinity is high later in the summer, but they are few and far between. Not like offshore where they are plentiful. So to try and target them inshore, especially in a kayak, would be difficult to say the least.

"W" 07-03-2013 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunt Drag (Post 601245)
They are endangered. Less than 50 are left in the wild from poachers hunting them for their ivory fins.

Seriously they stay further offshore. They do come in when the salinity is high later in the summer, but they are few and far between. Not like offshore where they are plentiful. So to try and target them inshore, especially in a kayak, would be difficult to say the least.

Almost as rare as red snapper

BROWN FIN 07-03-2013 09:03 AM

The overpopulated red snapper are eating them all.


BROWN FIN

simplepeddler 07-03-2013 09:06 AM

I think the issue gets attention because when the fish ARE in, they seem vunerable to 100 a day catches.......

It just looks bad..........not trying to judge anyone...........I've have killed and cleaned way more fish than I needed for consumption many times......

I have never caught one, and I am jealous of those who have it figured out.

Spunt Drag 07-03-2013 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by simplepeddler (Post 601252)
I think the issue gets attention because when the fish ARE in, they seem vunerable to 100 a day catches.......

It just looks bad..........not trying to judge anyone...........I've have killed and cleaned way more fish than I needed for consumption many times......

I have never caught one, and I am jealous of those who have it figured out.

I understand but before they impose laws and regulations on us, I'd like to see more biological evidence than a Facebook photo.

Goose 07-03-2013 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 601238)
Will Drost has simple basic science!

He is a big trout wade fisherman who just enjoys catching big trout and CPR...
He also has no problem with smaller limits because he lives on the lake with a wharf with lights, so anytime he wants trout to eat,he can turn a light on and get a mess of fish.

He is a good person but he is a liberal as they get when it comes to conservation!

We should of never had a 15 trout limit Never ....and when Biologist said no...he still pushed for it!

Also i have spoke with several WLF biologist and the slot of two over 25 or 24 ( what ever it is) is the dumbest of all, Trout are not bass!

I have been stopped several times and had big trout in the icechest and never asked about the two over what ever...No one cares about that and I dont think anyone even thinks about ot or follows it..

You think a guide is going to measure trout that big lmao


Obviously, you do not know him that well....He is liberal by the generoisty and abundant donations/time he gives to conservation programs/organizations! He is however, very conservative in principles, actions, values, and most importantly in conservation.

simplepeddler 07-03-2013 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunt Drag (Post 601255)
I understand but before they impose laws and regulations on us, I'd like to see more biological evidence than a Facebook photo.

You are spot on...........but when that is all that "we" as sportsman give them, that is what "they" are going to use.

biggun 07-03-2013 09:45 AM

Again.. Contact any WL&F commission member and let UR feelings be known..

Again I say "SHOW ME THE SCIENCIFIC EVIDENCE" a limit is warranted...

"W" 07-03-2013 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goose (Post 601267)
Obviously, you do not know him that well....He is liberal by the generoisty and abundant donations/time he gives to conservation programs/organizations! He is however, very conservative in principles, actions, values, and most importantly in conservation.

He is a great guy and does a ton of good for our area ...but he tends to push things that should be left alone

Because "Key Point" once something goes down there is no coming back up!!

He was a driving force for 15 trout limit and with what proof did he have to back his agenda??
He would love a 5 trout limit if he could get, but yet dont know the dangerous effects of over population

We are seeing the down trend of big trout due to this limit change and only blind can not see

Will has a strong voice and people listen. I dont know how much he is involed with our ship channel errosion but he could do great things to protect what land we have left and use his power for that.

Lets save our land mass 1st and not worry about a fish very few target much less catch

Spunt Drag 07-03-2013 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goose (Post 601267)
Obviously, you do not know him that well....He is liberal by the generoisty and abundant donations/time he gives to conservation programs/organizations! He is however, very conservative in principles, actions, values, and most importantly in conservation.

So you agree that tripletail populations are being hurt by anglers overfishing and keeping juvenile fish before they reach sexual maturity i.e. able to spawn and produce more fish?

eman 07-03-2013 03:46 PM

Biologist stated today that no evidence that creel reduction would help or hurt ( just like The Specks) CCA comes right after and asked for limits on commercial and recreational fishing for Triple tail.
Didn't know that there was a commercial fisheries for triple tail???

jpeff31787 07-03-2013 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eman (Post 601460)
Biologist stated today that no evidence that creel reduction would help or hurt ( just like The Specks) CCA comes right after and asked for limits on commercial and recreational fishing for Triple tail.
Didn't know that there was a commercial fisheries for triple tail???


I've seen them on the menu before, but I can't remember where

Top Dawg 07-03-2013 04:02 PM

So the CCA is fighting against us? Shocker

BROWN FIN 07-03-2013 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 601467)
So the CCA is fighting against us? Shocker

Hummmmm.....Sounds like the norm.


BROWN FIN

Spunt Drag 07-03-2013 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 601467)
So the CCA is fighting against us? Shocker

Yea the Ducks Unlimited of the gulf.

Top Dawg 07-03-2013 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunt Drag (Post 601511)
Yea the Ducks Unlimited of the gulf.

That's what u got

Duck Butter 07-08-2013 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 601238)
Will Drost has simple basic science!

He is a big trout wade fisherman who just enjoys catching big trout and CPR...
He also has no problem with smaller limits because he lives on the lake with a wharf with lights, so anytime he wants trout to eat,he can turn a light on and get a mess of fish.

He is a good person but he is a liberal as they get when it comes to conservation!

We should of never had a 15 trout limit Never ....and when Biologist said no...he still pushed for it!

Also i have spoke with several WLF biologist and the slot of two over 25 or 24 ( what ever it is) is the dumbest of all, Trout are not bass!

I have been stopped several times and had big trout in the icechest and never asked about the two over what ever...No one cares about that and I dont think anyone even thinks about ot or follows it..

You think a guide is going to measure trout that big lmao

:shaking: "you're" definition of liberal is not "write" here:rotfl:


He may be a liberal, but not in this "since", he would be better labeled as conservative in this case:)

Smalls 07-08-2013 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 601295)
Will has a strong voice and people listen. I dont know how much he is involed with our ship channel errosion but he could do great things to protect what land we have left and use his power for that.

Lets save our land mass 1st and not worry about a fish very few target much less catch

Trust me, he isn't going to have much pull in that fight. There has been a lot of talk about rocking the entire ship channel to reduce erosion. Just about the only way you are going to stop erosion on the ship channel is with rocks. National Marine Fisheries Service is completely against it, and completely against rocking the coast, because they say it will ruin fisheries habitat.

"W" 07-08-2013 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smalls (Post 602885)
Trust me, he isn't going to have much pull in that fight. There has been a lot of talk about rocking the entire ship channel to reduce erosion. Just about the only way you are going to stop erosion on the ship channel is with rocks. National Marine Fisheries Service is completely against it, and completely against rocking the coast, because they say it will ruin fisheries habitat.

Soooo no land on ship channel is better than land??


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