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Natural Light Kid 09-13-2013 08:50 AM

Selling rules
 
I want to pose a question because I'm obviously don't get it. If you have something for sale, and you agree to sell it to someone for an agreed upon price, what do you do if someone else walks up in the meantime with more money?

southern151 09-13-2013 08:54 AM

Give the first purchaser the opportunity to get it....Many don't do that though.

During the evil black gun crisis, I had a good many AR's for sale and, had em all spoken for at pre-"crisis" prices. Man, I coulda went back on those folks and, DOUBLED my money but, I opted to take the high road.

That said, my utilities are about to get cut off, can someone loan me some money?! LOL

weedeater 09-13-2013 08:54 AM

I have always sold it for my original asking price to the person that made the first offer or attempt to buy the item. I have lost a few sells like this but have always sold the item in the end and came out feeling like I was fair to all parties....

Slidellkid 09-13-2013 08:56 AM

If you already agreed to sell it to someone for an agreed price you should keep your word and sell it to that person, regardless of the offer to pay a higher price.

I had the same thing happen to me when I was selling a truck. I sold it on Boo Coo and then a guy offered me a couple hundred dollars more. I told him I couldn't sell it to him as I had already given my word to another person that he could have it.

Sightwindow 09-13-2013 09:06 AM

If you make an offer to buy, you should have the money to buy right then, correct? Whether it's paypal, wire transfer, whatever. It's 2013.

If you don't have the money, it's an intent to buy, not a purchase. Who's to say the buyer will come through?

wacotiger 09-13-2013 09:12 AM

You man up and honor your commitment. You walk away knowing that you did the right thing and treated someone the way that you would have liked to be treated if the shoe was on the other foot.

Natural Light Kid 09-13-2013 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightwindow (Post 626821)
If you make an offer to buy, you should have the money to buy right then, correct? Whether it's paypal, wire transfer, whatever. It's 2013.

If you don't have the money, it's an intent to buy, not a purchase. Who's to say the buyer will come through?

Then why agree to sell it? Maybe tell potential buyer, "I'll sell it to you for that price, but if someone shows up before you with more money, then I'm selling it." Why tell the buyer you will sell it for that price and not actually do it. I'm talking about on the way to bring the boy cash and get a call saying someone showed up with more money. Don't accept the offer if your not ready to honor it. I think sellers need to bite their tongue and not agree to a price if they are not ready to stick to it. This has happened to me twice in the last 2 weeks on 2 seperate items. Hate to say it but one was with a Salty Cajun member.

southern151 09-13-2013 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightwindow (Post 626821)
If you make an offer to buy, you should have the money to buy right then, correct? Whether it's paypal, wire transfer, whatever. It's 2013.

If you don't have the money, it's an intent to buy, not a purchase. Who's to say the buyer will come through?

But, if I have to drive from a distance to get there and, am en route, a guy beats me there, does he get it still?

Feesherman 09-13-2013 09:34 AM

Dey are selling wrong. When I sell something I tell every potential buyer that the first person to show up and pay me gets said item. I don't hold the item for anyone because u, the seller, ends up getting screwed.

Feesherman 09-13-2013 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 626833)
But, if I have to drive from a distance to get there and, am en route, a guy beats me there, does he get it still?

That depends on what the seller told u. If I was the seller then yes, if someone beat u and paid me then he gets it. But u would know that's the case up front

Sightwindow 09-13-2013 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Natural Light Kid (Post 626829)
Then why agree to sell it? Maybe tell potential buyer, "I'll sell it to you for that price, but if someone shows up before you with more money, then I'm selling it." Why tell the buyer you will sell it for that price and not actually do it. I'm talking about on the way to bring the boy cash and get a call saying someone showed up with more money. Don't accept the offer if your not ready to honor it. I think sellers need to bite their tongue and not agree to a price if they are not ready to stick to it. This has happened to me twice in the last 2 weeks on 2 seperate items. Hate to say it but one was with a Salty Cajun member.

This is what I always do. Agree that you'll accept the offer upon seeing the cash. For those who think I'm being harsh, all you have to do is get screwed a few times to change your tune.

all star rod 09-13-2013 09:53 AM

You sell it to whomever gives you the money FIRST regardless if it is the person that offered you more on not.

Sightwindow 09-13-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 626833)
But, if I have to drive from a distance to get there and, am en route, a guy beats me there, does he get it still?

Yep, he gets it. I wouldn't dare tell you "it's yours" and I would dare advise you whether it's worth it to take a chance and drive out. That's for you to decide.

Speck Attack 09-13-2013 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by wacotiger (Post 626823)
You man up and honor your commitment. You walk away knowing that you did the right thing and treated someone the way that you would have liked to be treated if the shoe was on the other foot.


Exactly...do the right thing....Be a Man of your Words....

all star rod 09-13-2013 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by wacotiger (Post 626823)
You man up and honor your commitment. You walk away knowing that you did the right thing and treated someone the way that you would have liked to be treated if the shoe was on the other foot.

SO what if that person does not end up following thru with his sale and the other person who wanted to buy it (regardless of paying more or not) ends up finding something else because you told him you promised it to someone already??? I had that happen to a buddy of mine and it took him another 6 weeks to sell his 4 wheeler...

southern151 09-13-2013 10:07 AM

Makes notes...

Sightwindow 09-13-2013 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by all star rod (Post 626844)
SO what if that person does not end up following thru with his sale and the other person who wanted to buy it (regardless of paying more or not) ends up finding something else because you told him you promised it to someone already??? I had that happen to a buddy of mine and it took him another 6 weeks to sell his 4 wheeler...

Yep...

Natural Light Kid 09-13-2013 10:23 AM

FYI, if someone buys anything from me, here's out it works.

If you make me an offer, and I accept, it's yours for the agreed upon price unless you no show. No matter who shows up with what. Period. If I'm not ready to commit to that, then I won't accept it. Everything else is first one there with the money.

2 weeks ago I was 1/2 way into a 3.5 hour drive to buy a camper talking to the seller on the way when he called to so generously give me the chance to match the offer of the guy that just walked up. I declined. Yesterday I negotiated (jewed) with a guy over a gun until we agreed on a price. It was also out of town. I then asked, via text, for his information so I can have a friend in his town pick it up and bring him cash. I didn't want him to have to hold the gun with no cash from until i could get there. I got no response to phone calls or texts for a few hours after this. Finally he called me to give me the option to beat the price that someone else offered him in the meantime. I declined again. I was under the assumption that, in both cases, when a deal was agreed on and that it was a done deal. If you hit "buy it now" on eBay, and someone emails the seller afterwards offering more, the seller is committed to sell it to you for the "buy it now" price. Same difference right? It's pretty simple. If you do not want to commit to a deal, then don't. Don't put a "buy it now" option out there if you don't want to stick to it. If you want to sell to the first person to show up with cash, then just accept cash offers. Don't accept a verbal offer then take another one.

Speck Attack 09-13-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Natural Light Kid (Post 626851)
FYI, if someone buys anything from me, here's out it works.

If you make me an offer, and I accept, it's yours for the agreed upon price unless you no show. No matter who shows up with what. Period. If I'm not ready to commit to that, then I won't accept it. Everything else is first one there with the money.

2 weeks ago I was 1/2 way into a 3.5 hour drive to buy a camper talking to the seller on the way when he called to so generously give me the chance to match the offer of the guy that just walked up. I declined. Yesterday I negotiated (jewed) with a guy over a gun until we agreed on a price. It was also out of town. I then asked, via text, for his information so I can have a friend in his town pick it up and bring him cash. I didn't want him to have to hold the gun with no cash from until i could get there. I got no response to phone calls or texts for a few hours after this. Finally he called me to give me the option to beat the price that someone else offered him in the meantime. I declined again. I was under the assumption that, in both cases, when a deal was agreed on and that it was a done deal. If you hit "buy it now" on eBay, and someone emails the seller afterwards offering more, the seller is committed to sell it to you for the "buy it now" price. Same difference right? It's pretty simple. If you do not want to commit to a deal, then don't. Don't put a "buy it now" option out there if you don't want to stick to it. If you want to sell to the first person to show up with cash, then just accept cash offers. Don't accept a verbal offer then take another one.

Well Said....Natural Light Kid....I think you are right on point....stick to your agreement both Buyer and seller...do not flip-flop like a fish....

wed68 09-13-2013 12:24 PM

Since this Facebook group selling craze got started I have been hearing more and more of this kind of thing. One problem we have today is some men do not stand behind there words. It comes down to good communication these days which many people do not have any more because of the impersonal way we communicate these days. I have rarely had a deal go bad when I shake a mans hand and agree upon a price. It appears that people don't consider what they text as strong as a face to face agreement. We all need to be careful of this and careful of who and where we go to meet. I sold a gun just minutes ago on Facebook, the buyer was offshore on a ship. His solution was to pay me via the Internet and pick the gun up in a few weeks. He has complete faith in me. He doesn't know me at all but in his words there are more good people then bad, we just hear about the bad much more often.

Ok I am getting off my soap box!!!

Armand16 09-13-2013 12:31 PM

I sold the gun to the first person to give me the money. Not only were you not first to give me the money, you were not willing to give the most. Ive seen too many people back out of a deal to hold anything for anyone. I even called you to give you a chance to match the guys offer. Ur tight azz declined then messaged me to say that you would pay up which was ur attempt to "screw me". If I want to have an auction for the gun then I will. I make the rules. I'm trying to sell the gun as quick as possible and get the most money as possible. Im not trying to run a business selling guns so i dont give a **** what u think. I have a day job and I'm was selling the gun for someone else. Next time make a reasonable offer up front and don't spend two days trying to Jew the person down then you might not lose out on a deal.

swamp snorkler 09-13-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Feesherman (Post 626834)
Dey are selling wrong. When I sell something I tell every potential buyer that the first person to show up and pay me gets said item. I don't hold the item for anyone because u, the seller, ends up getting screwed.


This, I've got burnt before too.

Natural Light Kid 09-13-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Armand16 (Post 626910)
I sold the gun to the first person to give me the money. Not only were you not first to give me the money, you were not willing to give the most. Ive seen too many people back out of a deal to hold anything for anyone. I even called you to give you a chance to match the guys offer. Ur tight azz declined then messaged me to say that you would pay up which was ur attempt to "screw me". If I want to have an auction for the gun then I will. I make the rules. I'm trying to sell the gun as quick as possible and get the most money as possible. Im not trying to run a business selling guns so i dont give a **** what u think. I have a day job and I'm was selling the gun for someone else. Next time make a reasonable offer up front and don't spend two days trying to Jew the person down then you might not lose out on a deal.

Thanks for letting everyone know how you do business now. I was not going to throw you under bus. I told you yesterday I was done with you. I did not go after you personally, so please don't come after me. Like I said yesterday, have a nice day.

Armand16 09-13-2013 01:59 PM

Selling rules
 
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Originally Posted by Natural Light Kid (Post 626934)
Thanks for letting everyone know how you do business now. I was not going to throw you under bus. I told you yesterday I was done with you. I did not go after you personally, so please don't come after me. Like I said yesterday, have a nice day.

Like i said, first one with the money in my hand gets it, this isn't a business I'm trying to run. If your not bright enough to understand that then maybe its a good thing that the gun isn't in your hands right now. Knowing you, you would have asked to put the gun on lay-a-way once we meet up. Or maybe asked for a rain check, I don't know. First come first serve. You snooze you loose.

Pull n Pray 09-13-2013 02:01 PM

The first person to put cash in my hand gets it. I don't care if its for more money or not. I've had too people tell me they wanted to buy something and then back out. I don't blame anyone for changing their mind though.

Andy C 09-13-2013 02:06 PM

IMO if you make a deal with someone keep it!! I pay cash for most everything. And every time I go look at something I am not going to get cash out the bank, with that said when I sell something i don't expect them to have cash right then. But shack hands and agree on a time to get it. If cash shows up before agreed time i say you will sold but after(whatever day agreed on) you will be the first one I call.

Natural Light Kid 09-13-2013 03:35 PM

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Seriously I am trying to figure this out. I wasn't trying to personally attack anyone that's why I didn't call anyone out by name. How would y'all take this? Deal or no deal? I'm in blue.

Natural Light Kid 09-13-2013 03:36 PM

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After this last text is when I got "the call".

Armand16 09-13-2013 03:39 PM

Selling rules
 
If you were there first I would have sold to you at that price. The deal goes to the first person there with cash for an agreed price. Not sure what u are getting at.. Let it go.

Also, if you would took the 350, that you later agreed to, two days earlier when it was offered you would had the gun that day. But u wanted to hold out and you held out for too long.

Natural Light Kid 09-13-2013 04:12 PM

I guess your right. How did your deals go with the other guns that you had for sale? Any issues with them?

Armand16 09-13-2013 04:21 PM

For all 3 guns I had people tell me they were going to buy them then back out. But I took first offer that showed up with cash so all three were sold with no problems on my end.

Jordan 09-13-2013 04:23 PM

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Natural Light Kid 09-13-2013 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Armand16 (Post 626985)
For all 3 guns I had people tell me they were going to buy them then back out. But I took first offer that showed up with cash so all three were sold with no problems on my end.

Congrats. I guess I just have a different definition of "back out".

Armand16 09-13-2013 04:55 PM

Selling rules
 
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Originally Posted by Natural Light Kid (Post 626992)
Congrats. I guess I just have a different definition of "back out".

I called you before I sold it to give u a chance so stand by what I did. Ur not entitled to anything so quit crying u big democrat.

weedeater 09-13-2013 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Armand16 (Post 626985)
For all 3 guns I had people tell me they were going to buy them then back out. But I took first offer that showed up with cash so all three were sold with no problems on my end.

I thought you wer keeping the broken one? I wanted both of the 1100's but I wasnt driving to buy the one after it seemed like it was turning into a bidding war for guns that were listed "FOR SALE" not "FOR BID" or "FOR AUCTION".... glad you sold them

Armand16 09-13-2013 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 627000)
I thought you wer keeping the broken one? I wanted both of the 1100's but I wasnt driving to buy the one after it seemed like it was turning into a bidding war for guns that were listed "FOR SALE" not "FOR BID" or "FOR AUCTION".... glad you sold them

Like I told you, I wanted to try to fix it before I sold it. I fixed it. U said didn't want it because it was scarred, quit lying to try to fit in.

weedeater 09-13-2013 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Armand16 (Post 627004)
Like I told you, I wanted to try to fix it before I sold it. I fixed it. U said didn't want it because it was scarred, quit lying to try to fit in.

surr thing

eman 09-13-2013 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 626816)
Give the first purchaser the opportunity to get it....Many don't do that though.

During the evil black gun crisis, I had a good many AR's for sale and, had em all spoken for at pre-"crisis" prices. Man, I coulda went back on those folks and, DOUBLED my money but, I opted to take the high road.

That said, my utilities are about to get cut off, can someone loan me some money?! LOL

How much ya need?

southern151 09-13-2013 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by eman (Post 627007)
How much ya need?

Joking, really. Taking the high road may have cost me a few dollars here and, there but, I've established a great rapport with most people I've ever come across and, still paid the bills.;)

PaulMyers 09-13-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 627010)
Joking, really. Taking the high road may have cost me a few dollars here and, there but, I've established a great rapport with most people I've ever come across and, still paid the bills.;)

Are you loaning then? :D

Glad everything is working out for you. :)

southern151 09-13-2013 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulMyers (Post 627012)
Are you loaning then? :D

Glad everything is working out for you. :)

HAHA!

I've been told that business and, life isn't a "one size fits all" deal so, to each their own.;)

weedeater 09-13-2013 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 627020)
HAHA!

I've been told that business and, life isn't a "one size fits all" deal so, to each their own.;)

I still like the thought of the old days where a deal was a deal... guess I will continue to miss out on some deals but feel good about others

eman 09-13-2013 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulMyers (Post 627012)
Are you loaning then? :D

Glad everything is working out for you. :)

How did it work in the plants on monday ? Guys go home on fri w/ 1k+ check and to broke to buy lunch on Monday. Borrow money for the week Dollar on a Dollar.:eek:

eman 09-13-2013 07:21 PM

When my dad passed he had a paid for house in NBR. Was appraised at 55k
called a guy i knew that flipped homes. Offered it to him at 46 k and he pays everything. we met at the house so he could look at it .he said yes and we shook hands. 3 days later katrina hit and the appraisal jumped to 70 in no time. He called to ask if we still had a deal? I told him we shook hands didn't we? He even told me that i could probably make more $$. I asked ,Do you still want the house at the agreed on price ? he said yes and that is what he paid for it.
When i look someone in the eye, shake their hand and tell them we have a deal ,i will do everything i can to live up to my end.

Raymond 09-13-2013 09:50 PM

Bought a dog box from a guy by offering him more for it BUT, the original purchaser misrepresented who he was and made up a story about why he wanted the box. Seller got pissed and accepted a FedEx cashiers check Saturday delivery.

fishinpox 09-13-2013 10:29 PM

If I'm selling something and someone says they want it for a price we both agree on I set a deadline for payment , basically our agreement dies if the payment is not in hand by agreed upon date. IF some one else calls me before the agreed upon date I write down their name and number, I call the original purchaser to confirm they still want it if they say yes I explain to the second guy that i already have an agreement on it and if the buyer doesn't follow through ill be in touch.
If I agree to something I honor what I agreed to but the second that agreement or contract is breeched and I can make more money or even the same money from a diffrence buyer who has cash in hand then I do it.
Not sure what went on in this situation but in my opinion if a price was agreed upon and buyer held up their end but seller still sold to someone else that's bad business , but if buyer left it open ended ...tough crap dude

In my line of work ( custom home building) the majority of my competition has not business ethics and cannot be trusted by the client . I build trust with my clients by doing what I say I'm going to do even if its a mistake on my part that will cost me money . By me being honest and honoring my commitments I have been blessed with more work than I know what to do with .......


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